If women want EQUITY, why are they not required by law to register for Selective Service…THE MILITARY DRAFT?

[ColonelAngus]

We have a volunteer army. Plenty of women are in prison.

No, I want the government to make them sign up for the draft when they turn 18 or go to prison….JUST LIKE MEN.

EQUITY!

 

[Arlette]

No, I want the government to make them sign up for the draft when they turn 18 or go to prison….JUST LIKE MEN.

EQUITY!

I think you might as well blow that one out of your ass. That ain't gonna happen.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Too many white males have died in US wars.

Time for equity.

Our armed forces should ONLY be women and trans until the numbers achieve EQUITY.

IT IS ALL ABOUT EQUITY.

MANY MORE WOMEN MUST DIE IN WAR FOR EQUITY.

 

[JoeB131]

(a) Bring back the draft. Minimum 2-year active duty obligation.
(ii) Make everyone register; NO deferments, no exclusions.
(C) Designate every MOS as either male, female, or either. No wimmin in combat or comparable roles.
IV. Draft enough fukkers to fill the open slots; be relatively selective, excluding less desirables.
5. Don't make reenlistment automatic. Only those who serve competently and honorably can re-enlist. Officers and enlisted.

Okay, a bunch of problems with that.

First, if you make everyone serve two years, how are you going to pay them? if you have 5 million 18 year olds every year, to be paid an E-1 salary - 24000 a year. That would be 120 BILLION a year. And that's not counting the costs of housing, feeding, equipping and training them.

Second- Who is going to train them, exactly? You would need a lot of drill instructors, more than we have even if we activate all the reserves.

Third, what are you going to have them all do, exactly? Sure, you could fill out all the active and reserve component units with draftees, but what would you do with the excess people.

Fourth, what do you do about the people who are physically or mentally unfit for service?

 

[Skylar]

Okay, a bunch of problems with that.

First, if you make everyone serve two years, how are you going to pay them? if you have 5 million 18 year olds every year, to be paid an E-1 salary - 24000 a year. That would be 120 BILLION a year. And that's not counting the costs of housing, feeding, equipping and training them.

You'd presumably have to budget for it. I don't think those proposing the idea have taken that into consideration, so its an important issue to raise. You'd need something other than military service to justify the investment, I think.

Second- Who is going to train them, exactly? You would need a lot of drill instructors, more than we have even if we activate all the reserves.

You'd need to train more drill instructors. With some planning, and the transition to universal enlistment being at a defined future date, you could have the additional drill instructors trained and ready by the start date of the new program.

Third, what are you going to have them all do, exactly? Sure, you could fill out all the active and reserve component units with draftees, but what would you do with the excess people.

You'd need more than military service. It would need to be something with tangible public benefit, like a CCC style civilian projects, akin to the civilian service in Germany, or the road and town building that Roman soldiers did when not fighting.

Alternative, if it involved some education (community college level courses, for example, vocational training, etc), that could tangibly increase the productivity of the youth exiting it, then the increased earning potential (and thus taxable income) would offset the costs in the long run.

Or both.

The concern is the hammer and nail proposition. You don't build a big ******* hammer unless you plan on smashing a few nails. And massively increasing the size of our military could lead to more wars, as we need to justify the expense.

Fourth, what do you do about the people who are physically or mentally unfit for service?

They'd get exemptions like Captain Bonespurs.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

(a) Bring back the draft. Minimum 2-year active duty obligation.

Nothing says "Land of the Free" like forced government servitude.

 

[Skylar]

Nothing says "Land of the Free" like forced government servitude.

Conservatives are authoritarians. On most issues, if there is an option that involves more freedom and an option that involves more State control, they go for the power of the State.

Most of their lamenting about 'big government' isn't an actual opposition to big government. They LOVE big government. They just want it at the State level where they can strip their citizens of federal rights so those rights can be turned into crimes.

 

[jc456]

We haven't had a draft in 50 years.

If you want to talk about a dead end bureaucracy with no purpose, it's Selective Service.

They spend 33 million a year compiling a list that will never be used.

Also, no men are being sent to prison for not registering with Selective Service.

still have to register.

 

[d0gbreath]

Child bearing years for women, and post labor feeding, etc.....

Someone has to stay home and bear and take care of the children, for the gov't s next future soldiers....

Disregarding the sarcasm, you sound like JD Vance.

 

[d0gbreath]

Draft cards make good fireplace starters.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Nothing but trans and women and non binary until there is EQUITY.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, I want the government to make them sign up for the draft when they turn 18 or go to prison….JUST LIKE MEN.

EQUITY!

Not signing up for the draft doesn't make you go to prison. You are sadly confused. Avoiding the draft could have led to prison.

If you don't register, you can't get a government job or certain benefits like financial aid for college. I had to provide my draft registration number after serving in the Navy and reserves for 23 years, when I applied for a job with the DoD and then for the Army. I originally registered in 1980 even though I already had a DD214.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Disregarding the sarcasm, you sound like JD Vance.

So you are saying they are correct?

 

[ColonelAngus]

If you do not want EQUITY, you hate women and are a misogynist.

Anyone who claims women cannot let the government make them go to war JUST AS GOOD AS MEN are misogynistic.

If you claim trans people cannot allow the government to make them die in war just as good as biological males…YOU ARE TRANSPHOBIC.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You'd presumably have to budget for it. I don't think those proposing the idea have taken that into consideration, so its an important issue to raise. You'd need something other than military service to justify the investment, I think.




You'd need to train more drill instructors. With some planning, and the transition to universal enlistment being at a defined future date, you could have the additional drill instructors trained and ready by the start date of the new program.


You'd need more than military service. It would need to be something with tangible public benefit, like a CCC style civilian projects, akin to the civilian service in Germany, or the road and town building that Roman soldiers did when not fighting.

Alternative, if it involved some education (community college level courses, for example, vocational training, etc), that could tangibly increase the productivity of the youth exiting it, then the increased earning potential (and thus taxable income) would offset the costs in the long run.

Or both.

The concern is the hammer and nail proposition. You don't build a big ******* hammer unless you plan on smashing a few nails. And massively increasing the size of our military could lead to more wars, as we need to justify the expense.



They'd get exemptions like Captain Bonespurs.

My daughter is a disabled vet at 30 years old due to a severe right ankle injury while on active duty. Guess what her new problem is? She has bone spurs on her left foot. Her new civilian job often requires her to walk several miles each day.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

"Equity" is about equal outcomes - those with the least receive the most (as long as I think they will vote for me).
"Equality" is about equal treatment under the law.
Thus, if women want "equality", they should have to register with selective service.

Invisible Ink

Equity is a financial term and never should have been used as an unnecessary synonym of "equality." Even professional writers are Grammar NotSo. It's been misused for hundreds of years, which shouldn't have given it credibility, or "credulity," which would be just as stupid.

Equity comes from a word meaning "horse." Roman businessmen were the only citizens rich enough to provide and train war horses, similar to modern owners of race horses.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We have a volunteer army. Plenty of women are in prison.

Your Freak Show Has a Military; America Doesn't

 

[Skylar]

My daughter is a disabled vet at 30 years old due to a severe right ankle injury while on active duty. Guess what her new problem is? She has bone spurs on her left foot. Her new civilian job often requires her to walk several miles each day.

So bone-spurs aren't a valid reason for deferment, as she can walk several miles a day. Or presumably play tennis daily?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Too many white males have died in US wars.

Time for equity.

Our armed forces should ONLY be women and trans until the numbers achieve EQUITY.

IT IS ALL ABOUT EQUITY.

MANY MORE WOMEN MUST DIE IN WAR FOR EQUITY.

"War Is Good Business. Invest Your Workers' Sons."

All our failed wars were fought for the equity of the defense-industry stockholders.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Nothing says "Land of the Free" like forced government servitude.

There Is No Such Thing as a Land of the Free That Is Not Also the Home of the Brave