The early church debated making Gentile believers convert to Judaism and decided not to make them do it.Then why aren't Christians Jewish? I don't get it.
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How could they FORCE Jews to abandon their religion?
No........the scriptures are declaring that Joseph was Jesus' LEGAL FATHER, just as recorded in your Jewish Customs. The scriptures never declare that Joseph begat Jesus.......physically. Thus Jesus had every LEGAL right of descent on His adopted father's side. In fact the scriptures declare, that Jesus was the SUPPOSED SON OF JOSEPH (Luke 3:23) Supposed: required
No one forced anyone to do anything. The first Christians were Jews, and when Gentiles started becoming believers, they decided the new converts did not have to become Jews. It's just that simple.
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Absolutely Christians believe Jesus was human. The belief is, Jesus has two natures: Human and Divine. He is fully human, fully divine.
That’s an impossible concept for a Jew. Human beings are not deities. And of course, to a Jew, there is only one deity, Gd.
Two different religions, two different belief systems.
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Do Jews believe that after the Fall of Man, the human race was in need of redemption?
Never heard of Fall of Man. I believe that’s a Christian concept.
Indeed TWO DIFFERENT covenants. The Law of Moses was for the Jews only, not any other nation on earth, this covenant was not for their ancestors but for the Jews being directed by Moses (Deut. 5:1-6).........Christianity is different from the Law and the Prophets, yet the O.T. prophets declared there would be a new faith unlike the Law and the prophets........yet endorsed by God because the Jews broke their Covenant continually. Jer. 31-31-34. The new covenant...i.e, the Kingdom of God would be written on the hearts of God's peoples not on stone.
What? You don't believe the prophet Jeremiah? The New covenant used the righteous Laws He delivered to the Jews (i.e, the 10 commandments).......but the New Covenant would include all the nations on earth be allowed into the Kingdom of God, not just the Jews, which was exclusive to the Jews for the first 10 years of the N.T. covenant, fulfilling the prophecy that God would save a loyal remnant of righteous Jews first.
I just have one question? If Orthodox Judaism is still valid today.............why are there no burnt sacrifices at the alter of the Levite order of Royal Priests such as goats and bulls as required under Jewish Law and Custom?
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I was astonished to see now that this is true. The Romans overtook this method from Mazedonia and Carthago. It was specially used for slaves and rebells on reason to protect the Roman peace (=the Roman dominance). A famous crucifier of Jews around the time when Jesus had been born had been by the way Varus. It exists the idea his cruel deeds against the Jewish children and people of god are the background of the story around the infanticide at the time of the birth of Jesus the Christ. Later, Varus will be transferred to Germania and Rome will be severely beaten by the Germanic tribes in the woods of Osning (today called "Teutoburg Forest"). They lost three legions there. A bitter loss. Looks like also this is somehow a part of the real Christmas story. The crimes of the Romans there - specially the crimes of Varus "the infanticider" - did not really give them an advantage.
don't tell your sunday school teacher
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Jesus never was a "deity" in this sense as for example in the Greek mythology. Such "gods" are not comparable at all with "god".
Not really. To call god a "deity" would make god to something what's god and not god. But god is god - that's it.
Yes.
No. Take the space all around you as a most simple example. You can step forward-backward, left-right and jump up and down - but you will never leave the space. We move in tri dimensions in une space. The space is for us triune - always - without any exception. But is the space triune for the space? Makes it any sense to ask the une space whether he is triune?
When we say for example "god is life" (creator, god father) , "god is love" (Jesus, his son) or "god is reason" (Holy Spirit) or "god is truth" (truth is always all around us in everything what exists, in all visible and invisible things) then we do not say "god is only love" for example - we say more or less "love is godly". And I am in the moment not able to imagine anyone who seriosly believes in god - from whatever religion - who not agrees with the statement "love is godly" for example. Even atheists understand this.
When we like to be in god the concept - better to say epiphany - of the triune god gives us just simple "orientation" in the morning to send prayers direction East, to send prayers direction of the new and now starting day.
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When did you attain the rank of DOCTOR OF SOPHISTRY?
zaangalewa
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Why have US-Americans always have to make an idiot out of themselves?
zaangalewa
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Do you need now a third try to make again an idiot out of yourselve?
better "do you now need a third try to make an idiot
of yourself" Dummkopf
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Why do you use senseless blubberwash when you have to say nothing else than "I do not like to hear what you say!"?
wrong! I like to read your posts.----Did you ever hear of ELDRIDGE CLEAVER? He wrote the book "SOUL ON ICE" ---popular during my
flower girl era (1960s) He compared the trinity to 3 in one---motor oil.
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Why?
Aha. Better to say "inverted Aha" or ¿mpf?. I do not know Eldrige Cleaver. I do not know the book "Soul on ice". And I do not see in the triune god a kind of motor oil - although this is perhaps a good description for the machinery of the Holy Church which dies since 2000 years while it is still growing. Right kind of godly motor oil?
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beautiful----was that Beatrice?
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