Zone1 If Homosexuality Is A Sin, Then Where Does It Come From?

[pknopp]

Correct, have you ever looked at any woman in your life with lust in your eye? And if he asked forgiveness, and had given his life to the Lord, and asked to be saved is he the only human God would not forgive?

"you will know them by their fruits"

Matthew 7 16-20

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[Frankenstein]

"you will know them by their fruits"

Matthew 7 16-20

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What has Trump done recently that you think would disqualify him? Why do you avoid the question portions of my posts. Are you without sin? Did you remove the plank from your own eye, before Judging him? Are you qualified to cast the first stone?

 

[pknopp]

What has Trump done recently that you think would disqualify him?

His never ending search for wealth. His taking the Lords name in vain. The way he demeans people with his name calling.

Need more?

Why do you avoid the question portions of my posts. Are you without sin? Did you remove the plank from your own eye, before Judging him? Are you qualified to cast the first stone?

Ive avoided nothing. Ive simply pointed out how you can demean some over your reading of the Bible while giving others a free pass and constant excuses.

 

[Hafar1014]

Really? Which men did not?

From what I have read it was culturally accepted and practiced by all.

Thats what I said but there is no basis to use the term by all. Most men are are offended by gay sex. The Greeks just didnt care. Athens was devasted by an unknown illness. Think that was HIV

 

[JohnDB]

You can tell by the size this thread grew in one day what the problem is....

It's the person's identity.

Everyone has a self image....some sort of identity that they believes identifies them.

Often it's their career or family role primary in the list of their descriptive self title.

Until it comes time for homosexuals to chime in....their sexual proclivities take a primary position.

For Christian's it's their relationship with God that's primary.

So.....

When Christian's say, "homosexuality is a sin" the only thing homosexuals will hear is "they are a sin"

The two sides are mutually exclusive. Cant be both despite the hype.

 

[Votto]

Thats what I said but there is no basis to use the term by all. Most men are are offended by gay sex. The Greeks just didnt care. Athens was devasted by an unknown illness. Think that was HIV

My point is, is that the homosexual lifestyle was culturally embraced and accepted, which means it was culturally implemented.

That is what is going on in society today as I have no doubt the numbers will continue to go up as it is.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Paul also said it was best for a Christian to not marry.

Too simplistic.
He was speaking to a church in Corinth, speaking about their faith and actions. He said that it is better to not marry, so that you can devote all your time to Christianity and your faith. However, he says he understands the difficulty in that, and it is HIS opinion and not God's teaching.
He did not mean this is what people should do, but remember he was talking to widowers and people who are single.

 

[pknopp]

Too simplistic.
He was speaking to a church in Corinth, speaking about their faith and actions. He said that it is better to not marry, so that you can devote all your time to Christianity and your faith. However, he says he understands the difficulty in that, and it is HIS opinion and not God's teaching.

Noted. Stew on that.

He did not mean this is what people should do, but remember he was talking to widowers and people who are single.

We were all once single.

 

[Frankenstein]

His never ending search for wealth. His taking the Lords name in vain. The way he demeans people with his name calling.

Need more?



Ive avoided nothing. Ive simply pointed out how you can demean some over your reading of the Bible while giving others a free pass and constant excuses.

Where is my reading of the Bible flawed, you took one verse, and decided based on your opinion, people all being different means that the alphabet people are good to go. I haven't heard Trump use the Lords name in vain not recently. Even if he did if he is a Christian does that mean he is beyond God's forgiveness. Democrats demean me every single day, as I am white, Christian, and heterosexual. Democrats live by the double standard, where as the Bible says let your yes, be yes, and your no, no!

 

[pknopp]

Where is my reading of the Bible flawed, you took one verse, and decided based on your opinion, people all being different means that the alphabet people are good to go. I haven't heard Trump use the Lords name in vain not recently. Even if he did if he is a Christian does that mean he is beyond God's forgiveness. Democrats demean me every single day, as I am white, Christian, and heterosexual. Democrats live by the double standard, where as the Bible says let your yes, be yes, and your no, no!

Again displaying your brainwashing. I am NOT defending Democrats. It's your trained response.

 

[Frankenstein]

Again displaying your brainwashing. I am NOT defending Democrats. It's your trained response.

When in comparison, I do not care, you give them a pass while punishing Trump only, it is excusing them, as they walk through the doors of Churches and praise socialism instead of Jesus

 

[pknopp]

When in comparison, I do not care, you give them a pass while punishing Trump only, it is excusing them, as they walk through the doors of Churches and praise socialism instead of Jesus

Take off your blinders.

 

[Frankenstein]

Take off your blinders.

I see all, not just some or one you see only one sinner take the plank out of your eye before passing judgement on another believer unless you think you are perfect

 

[pknopp]

 

[Frankenstein]

What is your point Christians do not hate people we love them enough to want to help see they are living in sin and will forever be separated from God. I, nor any other Christian I know, go looking for people to point out and degrade. We will not however lie to them about eternity and where they will spend it. Look at the people in the background do they look like just normal people who want to be left alone to do what they want no they are in your face, saying you have to accept our sin.

 

[pknopp]

What is your point Christians do not hate people we love them enough to want to help see they are living in sin and will forever be separated from God. I, nor any other Christian I know, go looking for people to point out and degrade. We will not however lie to them about eternity and where they will spend it. Look at the people in the background do they look like just normal people who want to be left alone to do what they want no they are in your face, saying you have to accept our sin.

Where people spend eternity is not your call.

 

[Frankenstein]

Where people spend eternity is not your call.

But the Bible spell it out! You are just arguing to argue now

 

[pknopp]

But the Bible spell it out! You are just arguing to argue now

And Jesus told me that not all people are born the same and there is no way I believe someone will go to hell for not being born like most everyone else.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

And Jesus told me that not all people are born the same and there is no way I believe someone will go to hell for not being born like most everyone else.

I am not arguing with you, I believe the same, but to do that - you have to completely upend all of the entire Christian belief system. To say that, is to say nothing in the Bible is real.
So - there is no religion at all.
Again, Paul was crystal clear in his letter to Corinth, you can deflect that (again) but one way or another you have to confront it. And to confront it, to say that you can deny or refuse to acknowledge it - then you can deny the entire book.
To believe in the New Testament is to believe that Paul was specifically chosen by God to clarify and build the foundational beliefs. And that chosen man said it with no gray area.
Just sayin.
These are among reasons I struggle with religion and faith.

 

[Frankenstein]

And Jesus told me that not all people are born the same and there is no way I believe someone will go to hell for not being born like most everyone else.

No human is exactly the same, it doesn't mean sin is accepted sorry.