Zone1 If Homosexuality Is A Sin, Then Where Does It Come From?

[BackAgain]

I don’t know that there either is or is not a gay gene. But I have never bought the premise that anybody made a “choice” about that matter.

And I don’t ponder it much. Just like I don’t believe that a straight couple should be allowed to engage in sex in public areas, I also don’t believe a gay couple (meaning homosexual males or lesbian females) should do sexual acts with each other in public.

I am completely disinterested in how they engage in sexual relations in private.

One more thing: if we assume that homosexuality is a “sin,” I have to believe that (like everything else in existence) it came from God, the Creator.

Why would God create any such thing?

To me, none of the discussion about it makes much sense.

 

[Frankenstein]

Read and dismissed. Even simply not be attracted to sexual things would be an abnormal thing which would make one out of what so many accept as an acceptable norm.

And God made them this way.

Still doesn't mean he made them homosexual

 

[pknopp]

Still doesn't mean he made them homosexual

You seem to understand that not all are created the same BUT have a hang up with a particular way they may not have been made up not the same.

Makes no sense to me.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I always wondered why the most vocal critics of homosexuals always use this phrase.

It doesn't take very long to figure out how these critics really feel, and what they really want.

Right Back at You Fairyphiles

Straights are not being represented effectively by their hired Influencers. That's the only reason it would sound odd to say the inside every pervert, there is a Straight man crying to get out.

Why was Rock Hudson able to portray such a believable manly Straight, even having a series of movies with Doris Day, presenting the Perfect Couple? Wise producers thought he was perfect for the part, even though they all knew that in his miserable escapist private life, he was just the opposite.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Really? Which men did not?

From what I have read it was culturally accepted and practiced by all.

Proof That It's All About Domination, Leading to Pedophilia

It was a fad of the Patricians. Snobbish Plato even claimed that commoners (hoi polloi) were unfit to practice such an exquisite experience, reserved for the birth-elitists.

 

[Frankenstein]

You seem to understand that not all are created the same BUT have a hang up with a particular way they may not have been made up not the same.

Makes no sense to me.

We are already Born into original sin, you think God made certain people, a way he detests on top of it?

 

[pknopp]

We are already Born into original sin, you think God made certain people, a way he detests on top of it?

I do not believe God detests any of the people he created.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

God gave freedom of choice for people. No one knows why someone grows up gay. Maybe some wires got crossed at birth. But sin is generally understood as being separate from God (ie., a perception of separate identity, ego) and separation from God is the seed of all sin.

Put another way, some people choose to live outside God; there can be no sin so long as one is fully united with God. Apart from God, there can be nothing else.

Though the academics disagree, could it be related to Latin sine, "without"?

 

[Votto]

I don’t know that there either is or is not a gay gene. But I have never bought the premise that anybody made a “choice” about that matter.

And I don’t ponder it much. Just like I don’t believe that a straight couple should be allowed to engage in sex in public areas, I also don’t believe a gay couple (meaning homosexual males or lesbian females) should do sexual acts with each other in public.

I am completely disinterested in how they engage in sexual relations in private.

One more thing: if we assume that homosexuality is a “sin,” I have to believe that (like everything else in existence) it came from God, the Creator.

Why would God create any such thing?

To me, none of the discussion about it makes much sense.

Did murder come from God as well?

That makes no sense.

 

[Votto]

I do not believe God detests any of the people he created.

What about Hitler or...............gulp..............................Trump, your favorite?

 

[pknopp]

What about Hitler or...............gulp..............................Trump, your favorite?

All up to God.

 

[BackAgain]

Did murder come from God as well?

That makes no sense.

I’d say it does make some sense. I would have to accept that it is a by product of the gift of free will. And an all knowing God would therefore have to have foreseen it.

 

[Votto]

I’d say it does make some sense. I would have to accept that it is a by product of the gift of free will. And an all knowing God would therefore have to have foreseen it.

There is a difference between giving someone the ability to choose poorly and the hope that they do.

It's like having kids, you hope they heed your warnings and wisdom, and pray that they do.

But no, the parent did not put into motion all the ills that could harm them if they do go down the wrong road.

 

[BackAgain]

There is a difference between giving someone the ability to choose poorly and the hope that they do.

I don’t suggest that He would harbor any such hope.

It's like having kids, you hope they heed your warnings and wisdom, and pray that they do.

I don’t believe that is a great analog. Parents have almost no ability to give children the ability to commit no murder or to commit it. God would be able to do that.

But no, the parent did not put into motion all the ills that could harm them if they do go down the wrong road.

Parents instruct children and children do what they will. God also instructed all of us via the Ten Commandments. And we do what we choose to do. The difference is: God could have denied us that degree of free will. He didn’t.

 

[Votto]

I don’t suggest that He would harbor any such hope.

I don’t believe that is a great analog. Parents have almost no ability to give children the ability to commit no murder or to commit it. God would be able to do that.

Parents instruct children and children do what they will. God also instructed all of us via the Ten Commandments. And we do what we choose to do. The difference is: God could have denied us that degree of free will. He didn’t.

Parents could lock their children up in a closet and force them to live a certain way.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Animals dont have lust their reproduction is 100% biological.

What's that have to do with anything?

 

[BackAgain]

Parents could lock their children up in a closet and force them to live a certain way.

That would constitute far more than a denial of free will in one respect. It would be a denial of free will in almost every respect.

 

[Votto]

That would constitute far more than a denial of free will in one respect. It would be a denial of free will in almost every respect.

I am just saying, Parents could take away their child's free will just like God could have

Love prevents either from doing so.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I used to think that people could just choose to be gay, so I was shaking my head about why gay Christians exist. However, I recently had my mind changed and learned that people can be devout Christians and still be gay and just not act upon it so my question is why are people born gay if it's a sin? Where does homosexuality come from if God creates everybody?

Before 1973 it was understood to be a mental illness

The leftists here won't accept this, but anyway...

 

[Frankenstein]

I do not believe God detests any of the people he created.

He hates sin and that is sin described as such in the Bible, why would he give them that predisposition?