Zone1 If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[BreezeWood]

They were not a "christian org".... don't be ridiculous... which church were they attached to?....

typical desert dweller ...

just as they use jesus for their salacious purposes they deny their sins and crimes without remorse or accountability whatsoever ...

 

[Crepitus]

Does a purely physical existence account for:

• free will
• feelings of joy
• the body changes, self identity does not
• a dead body and a living body are exactly the same...suggesting something more innate within us
• physical properties can be known, measured, but not private thoughts and feelings which also exist

Contemplate: Is the "real" you that outward, physical body? Or is the "real" you inwardly and much more private?

A dea body and a living body are not the same.

You can see (but not yet interpret) thoughts and feeling with various medical instruments.

Who told you this crap?

And as for "free will":

That doesn't look like free will to me.

 

[Crepitus]

You don't know what is real. How do you know this isn't a computer simulation?

You're getting desperate. Just stop.

 

[BreezeWood]

Sorry, but Joseph, Mary, and the disciples were mostly Jews. It is uncertain if Mary M. was an ethnic Jew but she was a "Jew" religiously as were many in the region of Galilee who were not ethnic Jews.

mary joseph jesus mary m - were never jews they did not fear judaism, moses - their phony commandments and were made exemplars by the heavens for their courage and heavenly sent the magi by celestial star to protect mary from the stone throwing jews.

 

[Rambunctious]

typical desert dweller ...

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just as they use jesus for their salacious purposes they deny their sins and crimes without remorse or accountability whatsoever ...

Your proper statement should many KKK members were Christians.... but the KKK was never sanctioned by any church... but they were democrats.... every one of them... but you don't want to discuss that fact....
In fact its still the democrats who can't stop talking about our differences in color and everything else...

 

[Meriweather]

That doesn't look like free will to me.

Nor is it in the proper context of any Bible verse or teaching.

 

[Meriweather]

Who told you this crap?

Plato, Socrates, or someone else from that time period. It's been a long time since I've studied Greek philosophers.

 

[ding]

You're getting desperate. Just stop.

It from bit.

 

[BreezeWood]

but the KKK was never sanctioned by any church...

they are the bible belt -

no christian church disavowed their presence or affiliation with the christian bible.

 

[Rambunctious]

they are the bible belt -

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no christian church disavowed their presence or affiliation with the christian bible.

They were democrats...

 

[Woodznutz]

they are the bible belt -

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no christian church disavowed their presence or affiliation with the christian bible.

Look at it this way. Just because one is a lunatic doesn't always mean they are a democrat.

 

[Crepitus]

Nor is it in the proper context of any Bible verse or teaching.

Sorry but "LOL".

 

[Crepitus]

Plato, Socrates, or someone else from that time period. It's been a long time since I've studied Greek philosophers.

They were obviously wrong. Anyone who can't see the difference between a dead a living body has serious issues.

 

[Woodznutz]

They were obviously wrong. Anyone who can't see the difference between a dead a living body has serious issues.

Dead bodies, cadavers, are used to study anatomy. The knowledge gained helps promote the health the living. The knowledge isn't used to understand other dead bodies.

 

[Meriweather]

They were obviously wrong. Anyone who can't see the difference between a dead a living body has serious issues.

This was in the context that the exterior of the body does not change after death. What made up the individual within the body is gone. Most refer to this as soul or spirit. I imagine you see it only as the interior organs of the body stopped functioning.

 

[Crepitus]

This was in the context that the exterior of the body does not change after death. What made up the individual within the body is gone. Most refer to this as soul or spirit. I imagine you see it only as the interior organs of the body stopped functioning.

But it does. You are not gonna mistake a dead human for a live one.

 

[BreezeWood]

This was in the context that the exterior of the body does not change after death. What made up the individual within the body is gone. Most refer to this as soul or spirit. I imagine you see it only as the interior organs of the body stopped functioning.

the absurdity of your statement is physiology is a time capsule that perishes - is why it is discarded by the spirit or the spirit dies w/ it - at any rate the physiology is no longer viable and can not be reused ... jesus et al do not use their old physiology - if at all it is new, the spirit having that ability to again have a physical presence.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Apparently, you don't have much experience with people.

This substance-free, mindless retort won't help you.

If you had been born 250 years ago, you would have been walking around with your fairy tale book trying to preserve slavery and deny women property and voting rights. Just for starters.

Same fairy tale book, different morality and ethics. What changed?

Not the bronze aged fairy tale. What changed is society, quite IN SPITE of your favorite mythology.

And you benefitted from this improvement, thanks to the genetic accident of where and when you were born.

 

[Clyde 154]

typical desert dweller ...

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just as they use jesus for their salacious purposes they deny their sins and crimes without remorse or accountability whatsoever ...

Reality: Jesus has never justified or promised to forgive or authorize any "Salacious" purposes due to HIS NAME. There is not one passage in the entire N.T. (the perfect law of liberty)that condones any such premeditated activity.

IN FACT Jesus clearly asks the question, "Why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" -- Luke 6:46.

What happens when any man pretends to be working under the banner of being a Christian and does not follow the Words found in scripture (The Word of God......faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God -- Romans 10:17)?

"But he that heareth, and does not My Word, this is like a man without foundation, built upon the earth; against the stream did beat vehemently (acting emotionally in a violent method); and immediately it fell; and the ruin of his house was great."-- Luke 6:49

Jesus promises to allow nature to take its course with all such men or groups of men.....or attempt to use the name of the Lord in Vain. Jesus does not protect those who abuse or take advantage of the vulnerable within society. (Matt. 18:6-9, Mark 9:42-50, Luke 17:1-5)

 

[Woodznutz]

This substance-free, mindless retort won't help you.

If you had been born 250 years ago, you would have been walking around with your fairy tale book trying to preserve slavery and deny women property and voting rights. Just for starters.

Same fairy tale book, different morality and ethics. What changed?

Not the bronze aged fairy tale. What changed is society, quite IN SPITE of your favorite mythology.

And you benefitted from this improvement, thanks to the genetic accident of where and when you were born.

The Christian religion (in the west) has progressed along with everything else. Everything is a work in progress.