Zone1 If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

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nature is prima facie, the heavens ... to all existence.

What does that even mean?

 

[BreezeWood]

Reality isn't subjective and neither is accountability.

accountability is subjective it's why there is judgment that which fell upon judaism 70ce - the roman army or their crucifixion of jesus.

 

[Crepitus]

Well some folks are beyond help... no book or church can save them... those souls have a rough road after life....

Souls don't exist, unless you are talking about the bottom of your feet.

After life you rot.

 

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accountability is subjective

No, it is not. People are subjective.

it's why there is judgment that which fell upon judaism 70ce - the roman army or their crucifixion of jesus.

No. It wasn't.

 

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Souls don't exist, unless you are talking about the bottom of your feet.

I disagree. It is the essence of your being.

After life you rot.

You body does.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Souls don't exist, unless you are talking about the bottom of your feet.

After life you rot.

Souls are a childish, magical idea that we should have outgrown as a species long ago.

 

[Crepitus]

I disagree. It is the essence of your being.

You body does.

YOur body is all you got.

 

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YOur body is all you got.

You don't know that. You don't even know if your body is real or not. You could be an NPC in a computer simulation for all you know.

 

[BreezeWood]

No, it is not. People are subjective.

- to your 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers using jesus for their purposes - where is the accountability for that - you have none yet subjectively that is your choice you have made as your accountability.

 

[Rambunctious]

Souls don't exist, unless you are talking about the bottom of your feet.

After life you rot.

The secrets of our soul...

 

[Rambunctious]

hyper religious

What is hyper religious?... you mean religion that sets parameters and limits of behavior?...

 

[Clyde 154]

Same thing that "animates" an engine, or a gun. Or a star. Energy.

And that is? What' practicing to be a politician? The human body is powered by (helium/hydrogen......a star)...by gun powder, or fossil fuels? Just fill'er up with carbon molecules every now and then. LMAO A self contradiction, you state the Law of Conservation does not apply to the human body. Your own words twist you into a pretzel in an attempt avoid the obvious display of ignorance to SCIENCE.

I know I wake up every morning and enjoy a good cup of Carbon. FYI: these basic elements make up THE MASS/Matter that make up the human body, they do not POWER, they do not animate that body because they still exist in a state of decay after the lifeforce leaves that same body. In order to be a living/animated form..........the body requires a spirit. The spirit (energy can live on past the mass/matter......as energy cannot be created or destroyed (Law of Conservation) but the body cannot live once that energy/spirit exits the body it begins to decay almost instantly.......rigor mortis.

DEFLECT MUCH because you can't admit to being totally ignorant concerning LIFE?

 

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- to your 4th century christian bible written by the crucifiers using jesus for their purposes - where is the accountability for that - you have none yet subjectively that is your choice you have made as your accountability.

You keep ignoring the early Church. Why?

 

[Crepitus]

You don't know that. You don't even know if your body is real or not. You could be an NPC in a computer simulation for all you know.

I'm real. "souls" are not.

objective reality says so.

 

[Meriweather]

I'm real. "souls" are not.

objective reality says so.

Does a purely physical existence account for:

• free will
• feelings of joy
• the body changes, self identity does not
• a dead body and a living body are exactly the same...suggesting something more innate within us
• physical properties can be known, measured, but not private thoughts and feelings which also exist

Contemplate: Is the "real" you that outward, physical body? Or is the "real" you inwardly and much more private?

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I don't think the last six commandments are on your mind very much as they might apply to you as you go about your daily life. I believe that you, like me, are past that.

"Thou shalt not steal" is for thieves, not honest people.

"I don't think the last six commandments are on your mind very much"

That would be Your Opinion.

One can not Truly Proclaim "Lord!", and then "Pick & Choose", from His Covenant, how they choose to Live, while expecting to enter His Kingdom.

But I will say,..... Man's Religions "Paint a very different Picture", of how one is to keep the last 6 Commandments, & In My Belief, ... That's all about controlling "The Sheeple". The "Leaders" expect total submission to their dictates, without question, or refusal. They demand that one "Forgives an Offense", even when the "Offender" is not repentant, especially when the "Offender" is Rich, & Powerful. Yet, in times of an "Alleged Crisis", they stir up the "Sheeple", in to a "Mob Like Mentality", that will serve the interests of "The Leaders".

We are to "Love Our Brothers & Sisters/ Fellow Man", and The Believer is Commanded to give aid to the poor, oppressed, the Widows, and those who are physically incapable of providing for their selves, but,.... There are limitations, per The Scriptures!

We are not Commanded to "keep one in a steady supply of fish", if they become capable of providing for their selves, & yet choose to "Live off of the System", so to speak.

Nor are We Commanded to not stop a Thief, from stealing what We have. Nor are We Commanded to allow a Lunatic to attack Us, simply because they are bored.

"Walking in Love", per The Ten Commandments Covenant,will "Bear Fruit", whereas "Walking in the Teachings of Man", will Fail to "Bear Fruit", quite often.

 

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I'm real. "souls" are not.

objective reality says so.

You don't know what is real. How do you know this isn't a computer simulation?

 

[Woodznutz]

"I don't think the last six commandments are on your mind very much"

That would be Your Opinion.

One can not Truly Proclaim "Lord!", and then "Pick & Choose", from His Covenant, how they choose to Live, while expecting to enter His Kingdom.

But I will say,..... Man's Religions "Paint a very different Picture", of how one is to keep the last 6 Commandments, & In My Belief, ... That's all about controlling "The Sheeple". The "Leaders" expect total submission to their dictates, without question, or refusal. They demand that one "Forgives an Offense", even when the "Offender" is not repentant, especially when the "Offender" is Rich, & Powerful. Yet, in times of an "Alleged Crisis", they stir up the "Sheeple", in to a "Mob Like Mentality", that will serve the interests of "The Leaders".

We are to "Love Our Brothers & Sisters/ Fellow Man", and The Believer is Commanded to give aid to the poor, oppressed, the Widows, and those who are physically incapable of providing for their selves, but,.... There are limitations, per The Scriptures!

We are not Commanded to "keep one in a steady supply of fish", if they become capable of providing for their selves, & yet choose to "Live off of the System", so to speak.

Nor are We Commanded to not stop a Thief, from stealing what We have. Nor are We Commanded to allow a Lunatic to attack Us, simply because they are bored.

"Walking in Love", per The Ten Commandments Covenant,will "Bear Fruit", whereas "Walking in the Teachings of Man", will Fail to "Bear Fruit", quite often.

That's my whole point. Merely abstaining from evil (keeping the commandments) doesn't bear fruit. Doing good does. So, while it's 'good' to not harm others it's a zero-sum game regarding their needs. The intention of the law is two-fold, first stop harming each other, secondly help each other. Once you stop harming others you move on to helping, and harming is forgotten.

 

[BreezeWood]

What is hyper religious?... you mean religion that sets parameters and limits of behavior?...

political encroachment against individual liberties ....

by religions based on forgeries lies and fallacies written in their bibles - in support for their own selfish agendas.

 

[BreezeWood]

Souls are a childish, magical idea that we should have outgrown as a species long ago.

physiology requires its unique spiritual content for it to function ... has nothing to do w/ a desert religion.