If God is all powerful...

[Likkmee]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

He gave you freedom.You know. Like the US ( The Great Satan inc.) used to have....as long as you were white. You wanna **** up ? Have at it. You get the bill later

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

He gave you freedom.You know. Like the US ( The Great Satan inc.) used to have....as long as you were white. You wanna **** up ? Have at it. You get the bill later

Well, that certainly is a nauseating, evil, and arrogant threat based on nothing but magical bullshit....

 

[night_son]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

Free will

Personal responsibility for choice is as impossible to accept as the consequence. If a jailor chains you to a wall can you steal an ear of corn from the fields outside the prison wall? Say the jailor sets you free. First thing you steal some corn and consequences ensue. The farmer can't meet his tax to the dickhead palatine so his family is put to death. Is the Jailor responsible by proxy of setting you free for your crimes against self or others?

Perhaps we'd all be happier if God had kept us chained.

 

[Likkmee]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Taz, I have family members dying as we speak from Cancer, I've lost a child, I've seen wonderful hard working co workers die of lung cancer and other illnesses and I've seen friends succumb to tragedies......and I say and pray to God, why, why why and he answers why not....We, all of us are here for such a short period of time and in that time, we must always adhere and remember that the works we put down, all is for the glory of being with our Lord and Savor some day.....this life is not eternal, but the after life is. Babies go to heaven, good people will go to heaven....grieve and then give praise...for the arms of Jesus is magnificent.

He only helps those that help themselves. Faith is the most powerful weapon mankind can own.
Too many distractions in this world of today...
The Withered Fig Tree
…21Peter remembered it and said, “Look, Rabbi! The fig tree You cursed has withered.” 22“Have faith in God, Jesus said to them. 23“Truly I tell you that if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and has no doubt in his heart but believes that it will happen, it will be done for him.…

 

[tigerred59]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Taz, I have family members dying as we speak from Cancer, I've lost a child, I've seen wonderful hard working co workers die of lung cancer and other illnesses and I've seen friends succumb to tragedies......and I say and pray to God, why, why why and he answers why not....We, all of us are here for such a short period of time and in that time, we must always adhere and remember that the works we put down, all is for the glory of being with our Lord and Savor some day.....this life is not eternal, but the after life is. Babies go to heaven, good people will go to heaven....grieve and then give praise...for the arms of Jesus is magnificent.

He only helps those that help themselves. Faith is the most powerful weapon mankind can own.
Too many distractions in this world of today...
The Withered Fig Tree
…21Peter remembered it and said, “Look, Rabbi! The fig tree You cursed has withered.” 22“Have faith in God, Jesus said to them. 23“Truly I tell you that if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Be lifted up and thrown into the sea,’ and has no doubt in his heart but believes that it will happen, it will be done for him.…

This is my spiritual take.....if you lift yourself first, God will humble you, but if you humble yourself first, God will always lift. Remember, Know Peace, Know God....No God, No Peace!!

 

[Hellbilly]

God doesn't "make babies". You do. He also doesn't control this shithole. Satan does.
Remember the part in that old book where He offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth ? Yeshu told hin to **** off and refused but many, like your so-called founders, gladly accepted the one nation under the god of this earth. Get it ?

But if god is all powerful, couldn't it defeat satan?

Defeating Satan will happen next election.
Bong!

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[Likkmee]

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

He gave you freedom.You know. Like the US ( The Great Satan inc.) used to have....as long as you were white. You wanna **** up ? Have at it. You get the bill later

Well, that certainly is a nauseating, evil, and arrogant threat based on nothing but magical bullshit....

Indiana ? Mike ? Is that you ? Say hello to The Orange One for me.

 

[norwegen]

God doesn't "make babies". You do. He also doesn't control this shithole. Satan does.
Remember the part in that old book where He offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth ? Yeshu told hin to **** off and refused but many, like your so-called founders, gladly accepted the one nation under the god of this earth. Get it ?

But if god is all powerful, couldn't it defeat satan?

He did. When Jesus and his followers preached the kingdom, evil began to fall from heaven, or the ruling places (Lk 10:18).

Sin does not reign in the kingdom of God.

So why is there so much sin in the world?

It may reap benefits, but the world is not the kingdom of God.

 

[norwegen]

God doesn't "make babies". You do. He also doesn't control this shithole. Satan does.
Remember the part in that old book where He offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth ? Yeshu told hin to **** off and refused but many, like your so-called founders, gladly accepted the one nation under the god of this earth. Get it ?

God lets Satan control the Earth?

Wow, God is some kind of *****, eh?

You prefer dick?

 

[Taz]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

He gave you freedom.You know. Like the US ( The Great Satan inc.) used to have....as long as you were white. You wanna **** up ? Have at it. You get the bill later

Jesus died for my sins on the cross, that bill is paid, brah.

 

[Taz]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

Free will

Personal responsibility for choice is as impossible to accept as the consequence. If a jailor chains you to a wall can you steal an ear of corn from the fields outside the prison wall? Say the jailor sets you free. First thing you steal some corn and consequences ensue. The farmer can't meet his tax to the dickhead palatine so his family is put to death. Is the Jailor responsible by proxy of setting you free for your crimes against self or others?

Perhaps we'd all be happier if God had kept us chained.

God could have given us free will without all the fucked up stuff. He chose not to. Why?

 

[Taz]

God doesn't "make babies". You do. He also doesn't control this shithole. Satan does.
Remember the part in that old book where He offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth ? Yeshu told hin to **** off and refused but many, like your so-called founders, gladly accepted the one nation under the god of this earth. Get it ?

But if god is all powerful, couldn't it defeat satan?

He did. When Jesus and his followers preached the kingdom, evil began to fall from heaven, or the ruling places (Lk 10:18).

Sin does not reign in the kingdom of God.

So why is there so much sin in the world?

It may reap benefits, but the world is not the kingdom of God.

Of course it's part of god's kingdom, otherwise, why does he bother with us?

 

[norwegen]

God doesn't "make babies". You do. He also doesn't control this shithole. Satan does.
Remember the part in that old book where He offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth ? Yeshu told hin to **** off and refused but many, like your so-called founders, gladly accepted the one nation under the god of this earth. Get it ?

But if god is all powerful, couldn't it defeat satan?

He did. When Jesus and his followers preached the kingdom, evil began to fall from heaven, or the ruling places (Lk 10:18).

Sin does not reign in the kingdom of God.

So why is there so much sin in the world?

It may reap benefits, but the world is not the kingdom of God.

Of course it's part of god's kingdom, otherwise, why does he bother with us?

The world is not the kingdom of God.

Your starting place for this thread is the Bible. Maybe you should read that before continuing.

 

[Taz]

But if god is all powerful, couldn't it defeat satan?

He did. When Jesus and his followers preached the kingdom, evil began to fall from heaven, or the ruling places (Lk 10:18).

Sin does not reign in the kingdom of God.

So why is there so much sin in the world?

It may reap benefits, but the world is not the kingdom of God.

Of course it's part of god's kingdom, otherwise, why does he bother with us?

The world is not the kingdom of God.

Your starting place for this thread is the Bible. Maybe you should read that before continuing.

God created the universe according to the bible, so yes, part of his kingdom.

 

[norwegen]

He did. When Jesus and his followers preached the kingdom, evil began to fall from heaven, or the ruling places (Lk 10:18).

Sin does not reign in the kingdom of God.

So why is there so much sin in the world?

It may reap benefits, but the world is not the kingdom of God.

Of course it's part of god's kingdom, otherwise, why does he bother with us?

The world is not the kingdom of God.

Your starting place for this thread is the Bible. Maybe you should read that before continuing.

God created the universe according to the bible, so yes, part of his kingdom.

Not so. That is not what the Bible says.

 

[task0778]

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

Free will

Personal responsibility for choice is as impossible to accept as the consequence. If a jailor chains you to a wall can you steal an ear of corn from the fields outside the prison wall? Say the jailor sets you free. First thing you steal some corn and consequences ensue. The farmer can't meet his tax to the dickhead palatine so his family is put to death. Is the Jailor responsible by proxy of setting you free for your crimes against self or others?

Perhaps we'd all be happier if God had kept us chained.

God could have given us free will without all the fucked up stuff. He chose not to. Why?

Maybe because the exercise of free will comes with consequences, both positive and negative. Your problem is that you want all the good stuff without the bad. Sorry, doesn't work that way.

 

[night_son]

Should a God conform to your parameters of his form? Why would he? Could making God in your own image have disappointed you?

Best guess? God created it all. All of it was good. Perhaps it was all even perfect. Then the rest of everything happened. What I'm talking about is personal responsibility both on an individual and species level. Where I'm going with this is God made things--us included--then we messed it up/are still messing it up. In my opinion we need to take responsibility for most all the bad things you mention, not blame them on God. That's the biggest cop-out of all time. We need to take responsibility for misuse of free will, much the same way society holds us to standards defined by laws of other men.

It's all so constraining isn't it? This belief in God.

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

Free will

Personal responsibility for choice is as impossible to accept as the consequence. If a jailor chains you to a wall can you steal an ear of corn from the fields outside the prison wall? Say the jailor sets you free. First thing you steal some corn and consequences ensue. The farmer can't meet his tax to the dickhead palatine so his family is put to death. Is the Jailor responsible by proxy of setting you free for your crimes against self or others?

Perhaps we'd all be happier if God had kept us chained.

God could have given us free will without all the fucked up stuff. He chose not to. Why?

Wouldn't be free will then, would it? It'd be conditional freedom.

 

[Likkmee]

I think many underestimate Who Satan actually is. He is one on a similar level to those who created us "in our own image" with Yahvey as the head of the engineering department. Satan and Yahvey have been at odds long before the earth was even created.He was so powerful, according to scripture, that he was able to corrupt 1/3 of the beings referred to as angels and Yahvey kicked all of their asses out. These are " the sons of gods who took the daughters of men to be their wives( cuz that ***** is awesome) and became "mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.". The Nephilim. They still run this shithole....FOR NOW ! even after Christ reigns for the 1000 years, ol Satan gets turned loose again "for a little while". It's politics we ignorant animals can't comprehend. YET

 

[IsaacNewton]

...Why does it makes babies with cancer, or retarded, or deformed, or in pain, or even with all of that together? Is god not capable of a perfect creation? Is it a punishment of some sort?

You will now get a long list of excuses why 'god' isn't perfect. The go-to answer is usually 'god works in mysterious ways and we don't know his plan'.

 

[Taz]

But if god created it all, why did he create imperfect humans? And you never answered why god made cancer, retardation...? Why didn't it give us a free will that wasn't fucked up?

But I did answer. We fucked it all up. Our scientifically engineered society twisted it all to shit--including disease, defect, etc. We fucked up free will. God didn't. Now if we could only swallow that ultimate pill of shit responsibility for our own actions. Actions resulting in the consequences you question.

No, but why did god make it so we could **** everything up?

Free will

Personal responsibility for choice is as impossible to accept as the consequence. If a jailor chains you to a wall can you steal an ear of corn from the fields outside the prison wall? Say the jailor sets you free. First thing you steal some corn and consequences ensue. The farmer can't meet his tax to the dickhead palatine so his family is put to death. Is the Jailor responsible by proxy of setting you free for your crimes against self or others?

Perhaps we'd all be happier if God had kept us chained.

God could have given us free will without all the fucked up stuff. He chose not to. Why?

Maybe because the exercise of free will comes with consequences, both positive and negative. Your problem is that you want all the good stuff without the bad. Sorry, doesn't work that way.

I know it doesn't, my question is why did god make cancer and deformed babies? For what purpose?