I was there: My perspective on bowe bergdahl

[Care4all]

Bergdahl so far as we know was not dealing with anything that the other solider's he was serving with were dealing with and they didn't walk off there post Bergdahl may not be a villain but neither is he a hero and this administration should have and it seems like did know this before portraying him as one.

with the exception of one person saying once that he served with honor and distinction what gives you the impression anyone is calling him a hero?

The fact that that one person was briefed on what to say by the White House, and the fact that she also said he was captured on the battlefield.

Any other stupid questions?

She absolutely put the best light possible in her ''airing'' on world wide television...no question about it....

I would have done the same....

 

[Sallow]

What do our soldiers think about Bush lying to the entire world to start a war that the US designed to never end and torturing POWs like we're the Viet Cong?

Someone should ask them.

Why bother?

For the most part?

Joining the Military is a little like "finding" religion.

Folks generally aren't joining up because it's their first choice.

Generally it's the very last choice.

During the Vietnam war, if you got nabbed, the judge would give you a choice of jail or the military.

By the way..for the most part. It works.

The military teaches folks how to work with a team and discipline.

 

[Ropey]

POTUS failed to use the proper channels again.

Due to closed doors. Due to Obama.

And you guys are arguing after that most serious fact that is so much more important than Bergdahl.

 

[Zander]

In Obama's world, Bergdahl is the perfect soldier.

 

[Zander]

with the exception of one person saying once that he served with honor and distinction what gives you the impression anyone is calling him a hero?

The fact that that one person was briefed on what to say by the White House, and the fact that she also said he was captured on the battlefield.

Any other stupid questions?

She absolutely put the best light possible in her ''airing'' on world wide television...no question about it....

I would have done the same....

No, You wouldn't have. You're not a scumbag liar.

Bergdahl did not serve with "honor and distinction". He was not "captured on the battlefield". He abandoned his post and deserted his comrades. He's a coward.

Rice has proven to be a useful idiot that will read anything placed in front of her. She cannot be taken seriously.

 

[whitehall]

I think Obama is clueless about America period. He is the product of a hippie mother and an alcoholic bigamist anti-American African. By his own admission Obama was influenced the most by the "dreams of his father". He has no concept of "duty honor Country" or anything else that makes America great. He is an anti-American zealot like his father was. No wonder he misunderstood America's reaction to the return of an AWOL Soldier.

 

[Ropey]

The fact that that one person was briefed on what to say by the White House, and the fact that she also said he was captured on the battlefield.

Any other stupid questions?

She absolutely put the best light possible in her ''airing'' on world wide television...no question about it....

I would have done the same....

No, You wouldn't have. You're not a scumbag liar.

Bergdahl did not serve with "honor and distinction". He was not "captured on the battlefield". He abandoned his post and deserted his comrades. He's a coward.

Rice has proven to be a useful idiot that will read anything placed in front of her. She cannot be taken seriously.

U.N. Ambassador Susan E. Rice withdrew her name Thursday as President Obama’s leading candidate for secretary of state, saying the administration could not afford a “lengthy, disruptive and costly” confirmation fight over statements she made about the extremist attack in Libya that killed four Americans.

She's not smart enough to know that what she's reading is wrong. That makes her able to believe the lies but after a few are seen to be lies, well it's time for another one.

Jay Carney is another one. Still, just because he believes lies in no way means that others will continue to believe him when he's found out to be the bearer of lies just too many times.

The old liar is dead. Long live the new liar.

 

[Statistikhengst]

POTUS failed to use the proper channels again.

Due to closed doors. Due to Obama.

And you guys are arguing after that most serious fact that is so much more important than Bergdahl.

Actually, no.

It's more complicated than that:

Sorting Murky Issues on the POW Swap

And POW exchanges are generally held behind closed doors.


There are only 3 facts we know for sure:

Bergdahl, an American soldier, was captured and held for 5 years by the Taliban.

Bergdahl was released in a prisoner swap.

Bergdahl is now back in the USA after being treated at Landshut Hospital in the BRD.


Anything else is absolute speculation.

 

[Statistikhengst]

The fact that that one person was briefed on what to say by the White House, and the fact that she also said he was captured on the battlefield.

Any other stupid questions?

She absolutely put the best light possible in her ''airing'' on world wide television...no question about it....

I would have done the same....

No, You wouldn't have. You're not a scumbag liar.

Bergdahl did not serve with "honor and distinction". He was not "captured on the battlefield". He abandoned his post and deserted his comrades. He's a coward.

Rice has proven to be a useful idiot that will read anything placed in front of her. She cannot be taken seriously.

where is your proof of this?

 

[Ropey]

POTUS failed to use the proper channels again.

Due to closed doors. Due to Obama.

And you guys are arguing after that most serious fact that is so much more important than Bergdahl.

Actually, no.

It's more complicated than that:

Sorting Murky Issues on the POW Swap

And POW exchanges are generally held behind closed doors.


There are only 3 facts we know for sure:

Bergdahl, an American soldier, was captured and held for 5 years by the Taliban.

Bergdahl was released in a prisoner swap.

Bergdahl is now back in the USA after being treated at Landshut Hospital in the BRD.

Anything else is absolute speculation.

The doors are closed. There is no real two-way between the parties. There is no room for the law in such one way decisive "United" State's moves.

That's not speculative.

 

[Care4all]

And part of those facts are that we are leaving Afghanistan, and by law, GITMO has to release ALL prisoners, including these 5 Taliban men.....no way around it...

we got something, Bergdahl, for Nothing.....since these guys were going to be released before year's end anyway, right? ....whether Bergdahl walked away or not....from all the taliban correspondence that was captured, he DID NOT join them or cooperate with them.

And, there were concerns about his physical and mental stability after 5 years of being held hostage....and comparable videos of him....he certainly has suffered for his crazy transgressions....

so, yes we released 5 Taliban men to Qatar's custody, so to say, for a year....but they would have been released irregardless....in just months.

 

[Statistikhengst]

POTUS failed to use the proper channels again.

Due to closed doors. Due to Obama.

And you guys are arguing after that most serious fact that is so much more important than Bergdahl.

Actually, no.

It's more complicated than that:

Sorting Murky Issues on the POW Swap

And POW exchanges are generally held behind closed doors.


There are only 3 facts we know for sure:

Bergdahl, an American soldier, was captured and held for 5 years by the Taliban.

Bergdahl was released in a prisoner swap.

Bergdahl is now back in the USA after being treated at Landshut Hospital in the BRD.

Anything else is absolute speculation.

The doors are closed. There is no real two-way between the parties. There is no room for the law in such one way decisive "United" State's moves.

That's not speculative.

You are speaking in general terms, which is fine. I am speaking specifically related to Bergdahl, since that's the jist of the OP.

 

[Ropey]

Actually, no.

It's more complicated than that:

Sorting Murky Issues on the POW Swap

And POW exchanges are generally held behind closed doors.


There are only 3 facts we know for sure:

Bergdahl, an American soldier, was captured and held for 5 years by the Taliban.

Bergdahl was released in a prisoner swap.

Bergdahl is now back in the USA after being treated at Landshut Hospital in the BRD.

Anything else is absolute speculation.

The doors are closed. There is no real two-way between the parties. There is no room for the law in such one way decisive "United" State's moves.

That's not speculative.

You are speaking in general terms, which is fine. I am speaking specifically related to Bergdahl, since that's the jist of the OP.

No. I'm speaking of the POTUS's decision to isolate the Congress in the Bergdahl event.

This is why the Democrats are now running around making comparisons.

It's rather pointed and not general. Both parties do this, however this sitting President passes over (pun not intended) his true Power of Presidential Decree in order to effect moves that are over and above that power.

Now that's what the Congress will be centering on. They have this, Benghazi and so much more. Those are also specific acts that show the closed door approach.

 

[Ropey]

Oh, and the Republicans will need two terms with some decent house majorities in order to effect a new open door policy.

Something tells me that this could be one of Hillary's approaches. She can re-open the doors her husband created and President Obama closed.

 

[Statistikhengst]

The doors are closed. There is no real two-way between the parties. There is no room for the law in such one way decisive "United" State's moves.

That's not speculative.

You are speaking in general terms, which is fine. I am speaking specifically related to Bergdahl, since that's the jist of the OP.

No. I'm speaking of the POTUS's decision to isolate the Congress in the Bergdahl event.

This is why the Democrats are now running around making comparisons.

It's rather pointed and not general. Both parties do this, however this sitting President passes over (pun not intended) his true Power of Presidential Decree in order to effect moves that are over and above that power.

Now that's what the Congress will be centering on. They have this, Benghazi and so much more. Those are also specific acts that show the closed door approach.

I'm not.

I want to see what happens with Bergdahl.

Now, as to informing congress, as I already wrote you, it is more complicated that that, also juristically speaking.


There is still great debate over the war powers act and how every single president since it's becoming law has then ignored said act.

 

[Antares]

Geezus H. Kryst, at least wait for the final mental/physical examinations/evaluations before rending your G.I. Joe bullshit analysis. I also have serious doubts that you were there...

Hey, moron, the author of the article was there. I didn't say I was.

And let it be noted that the mindless drones in the White House who cast aspersions on Bergdahl's fellow Soldiers weren't there, either -- but you mindlessly and unquestioningly believed them, didn't you?

I'm not believing anyone until all the final reports are disclosed. Bergdahl is a combat soldier who is innocent until proven otherwise. No rush to judgement...

BTW, where is the link to your OP?

...and yet everyone of you had Zimmerman hung before it ever went to trial.

You people are hypocritical hacks.

 

[Moonglow]

I though Daving was against the TOS??

 

[bodecea]

Now we have a two star general assigned to review bergdahl's case. I hope you saw Col David Hunt's reaction...stupid he said.

You don't think there should be an Article 32?

 

[Statistikhengst]

Hey, moron, the author of the article was there. I didn't say I was.

And let it be noted that the mindless drones in the White House who cast aspersions on Bergdahl's fellow Soldiers weren't there, either -- but you mindlessly and unquestioningly believed them, didn't you?

I'm not believing anyone until all the final reports are disclosed. Bergdahl is a combat soldier who is innocent until proven otherwise. No rush to judgement...

BTW, where is the link to your OP?

...and yet everyone of you had Zimmerman hung before it ever went to trial.

You people are hypocritical hacks.

Really?


I didn't.


I said, over and over and over again: wait until the facts are out.


meh. You are boring.

 

[Ropey]

You are speaking in general terms, which is fine. I am speaking specifically related to Bergdahl, since that's the jist of the OP.

No. I'm speaking of the POTUS's decision to isolate the Congress in the Bergdahl event.

This is why the Democrats are now running around making comparisons.

It's rather pointed and not general. Both parties do this, however this sitting President passes over (pun not intended) his true Power of Presidential Decree in order to effect moves that are over and above that power.

Now that's what the Congress will be centering on. They have this, Benghazi and so much more. Those are also specific acts that show the closed door approach.

I'm not.

I want to see what happens with Bergdahl.

Now, as to informing congress, as I already wrote you, it is more complicated that that, also juristically speaking.


There is still great debate over the war powers act and how every single president since it's becoming law has then ignored said act.

It's not more complicated than that for the voters. The US citizenry is not so divided over usurping the powers of legislation to over-ride Congress as they are over the parties. Ollie's proof of that.



It's simple enough. The Lawyers will deal with the finer legislative points.

Hillary has a husband who knows what doors were opened. The Republicans need a lot more time than she does to effect any form of open doors since they've been following President Obama's lead and knocking at all the doors while yelling.

I can relate somewhat.

Still, Hillary has another strong ace to put in the pocket.