I thought Trump was Putin's puppet. Why would Trump bomb Syria?

[EvilCat Breath]

From the Communist News Network:

"Only very few of the loudest opponents of the Iraq war advocated complete withdrawal. The U.S. military commanders recommended at least 15,000 troops remain. Obama once again ignored his generals, as he did with Afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with a politically calculated decision."

Obama risks Iraq for political expediency - CNN.com

Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims

Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims
"They wanted 10,000 troops to remain in Iraq -- not combat troops, but military advisers, special operations forces, to watch the counterterrorism effort," she said.

Shortly before Obama took office in January 2009, his predecessor, George W. Bush, finalized an important agreement after about a year of negotiations with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Called the Status of Forces Agreement, it spelled out the withdrawal of all American troops by the end of 2011.

The Obama administration was initially open to leaving up to 10,000 troops in Iraq after the scheduled pullout at the end of 2011, a controversial pitch that would have required approval from Iraq’s divided government to change the 2008 agreement

It did not stay there. The New York Times detailed how the one-time goal of a 10,000-person force shrank before negotiations failed altogether.

The agreement failed over a demand that American troops be given immunity from prosecution by Iraqis, a very touchy political issue within the Iraqi Parliament.

Not combat troops but combat monitors. They willl tell you when combat troops are necessary.

 

[CowboyTed]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

 

[Redfish]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

 

[Redfish]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

 

[Redfish]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

Comey has proven himself to be politically motivated ("she was merely careless" "she did not intend to violate federal law" "she did not understand that her server was illegal and unsecured").

the left has claimed that "all 17 intelligence services say that Russia tried to influence our election". 17 intelligence agencies???? name them please, all 17.

Lying and intentionally spinning facts are very close to the same thing.

Bottom line: you on the left cannot get over the fact that the American voters rejected your flawed candidate and that Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to run for president. Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

 

[Claudette]

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

Comey has proven himself to be politically motivated ("she was merely careless" "she did not intend to violate federal law" "she did not understand that her server was illegal and unsecured").

the left has claimed that "all 17 intelligence services say that Russia tried to influence our election". 17 intelligence agencies???? name them please, all 17.

Lying and intentionally spinning facts are very close to the same thing.

Bottom line: you on the left cannot get over the fact that the American voters rejected your flawed candidate and that Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to run for president. Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

A big fat bingo.

 

[percysunshine]

Just who is the real puppet of Putin? Also, will be getting the Trump Russian hooker pee video liberals hyped for months now that Trump has defied Putin?

.
It is a secret code orange double false flag covert sting black op. Trump is Agent Orange.

 

[edthecynic]

Tramp said "I know more than the generals, belibe me."

Obama said the same thing, right after his Generals told him not to pull out of Iraq. We seen how that worked out.

LIAR!

From the Communist News Network:

"Only very few of the loudest opponents of the Iraq war advocated complete withdrawal. The U.S. military commanders recommended at least 15,000 troops remain. Obama once again ignored his generals, as he did with Afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with a politically calculated decision."

Obama risks Iraq for political expediency - CNN.com

As always the Conservative News Network blames Bush's failures on others!

From Bush's own White House website:
President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement
The various political institutions have taken a very strong leadership position and the agreement was ratified, was approved by our political system, our parliament, and various institutions of the Iraqi government. They have approved and ratified the SOFA agreement and the withdrawal of American forces.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

kabuki

 

[oreo]

Oh, well that settles that then. We all know how honest Democrats are.

I just gave you a FOX NEWS article is that also FAKE news? We know for dam sure that several Trump surrogates have lied about their contacts with Russians during the campaign season--here is another FOX NEWS link for you.

Flynn reportedly lied to FBI about sanctions talk with Russian envoy

We also know that Flynn was a paid lobbyist for Turkey recieving 530K for his services and didn't disclose this until long after he was busted by the FBI, and had already attended National Security briefings. We also know that lying to the FBI is a FELONY, which is why Flynn is now asking for immunity. While you all were chanting "lock her up"--Flynn was stating anyone that is asking for immunity is GUILTY.
Mike Flynn attended intelligence briefings while a lobbyist for Turkey

JEFF SESSIONS--while everyone is stating "well he misunderstood the question"--he also filled out a confirmation questionaire before he went in to testify and checked a box stating he had no contact with any Russians and signed it.

"When Sessions was asked in his confirmation hearing what he would do if there was evidence anyone associated with Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had communicated with the Russians, Sessions replied that he wasn’t aware of any such “activities,” and added, “I did not have communications with the Russians.” A questionnaire he filled out for the committee also asked whether he had had contact with the Russians, to which Sessions, according to the Post, wrote, “No.” Which is why he is now refusing to go back to congress and answer questions again under oath.
Jeff Sessions spoke twice with Russian envoy during presidential campaign: Department of Justice

5 TIMES the Trump circle has denied any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

And the biggest denier of all is Trump.

After Sessions was busted, J.D. Gordon another Trump surrogate admitted to meeting with the Russian ambassador in Cleveland during the RNC convention to write foreign policy with him. Long before they were even close to winning a freaking election. They actually put this clause in the Republican platform.

"Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.
But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine."
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

John McCain wants to know why this clause was put in the RNC platform also?


Then this FOX NEWS video


CNN confirms it.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com


Devin Nunes, working as a senior executive for Trump during the transistion, gets the boot as chairman of the house Intelligence committee, for running into Trump to tell him what new evidence as surfaced.
Nunes apologizes to House Intel Committee, member says - CNNPolitics.com
House intel committee: Partisan split over canceled open hearing - CNNPolitics.com
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/...house-intelligence-committee-russia.html?_r=0


Then the co--chair of the house intelligence committee had this to say.


You really couldn't have given Democrats a more powerful weapon than electing Donald Trump. They are going to ride this one to hell and back. If Republicans can do 8 investigations into Benghazi, it's not real hard to imagine what Democrats will do with Treason, Obstruction & Lies when they take over in 2018. You'll also get a grasp of what that Emoluments clause in the Constitution means.
The Emoluments Clause: Its text, meaning, and application to Donald J. Trump | Brookings Institution

Wow. It seems like you're pretty obsessed with this. Do you ever get any sleep at nights or is it not worth it since you dream about it as well?

No it's not that I am obsessed--it's just that I am well informed as to what is going on. Unlike you Reich wingers that insist on living in a Reich wing media bubble--and have to have your news & information regurgitated and spoon fed back to you through a Reich wing talk show host-. Whom leave out a lot of critical information--to suit their audiences political leanings. Whom have filled you with enough conspiracy theories to fill the capital building from floor to ceiling. All for ratings and those obscene profit breaks.

Unlike you I gather information from several reliable--verifiable trusted sources to come to a conclusion, including FOX NEWS. But I won't turn on Sean Hannity, (Trump's fairy godfather) or any of the others to listen to the bullshit.

Right, you post a page and a half all about Russia and Trump and you're not obsessed.

The thing is, no evidence that they did anything to our election--only exposed the truth about Hillary and the DNC. According to sources, Rich had made requests for unmasking for a year before the election. Trump wasn't even a serious thought then, yet your big-eared leader spied on Trump's people, and came up empty handed.

Yep, I'll just sit back and let everything unfold before I say who is right and who is wrong. I bet you can't do the same.

The thing is, no evidence that they did anything to our election--only exposed the truth about Hillary and the DNC.

Very convenient that your logic stops at that point. The next step is of course not so convenient.

Do you believe "the truth about Hillary and the DNC" hurt Clinton and the Dems in any way?

I think you mean did the Russia hacks, who then turned it over to Wikileaks do any damage to Hillary Clinton. It really doesn't matter if it did or not, (collusion with a foreign adversary to intervene into an American election is TREASON--regardless if it changed a single vote.)

But as to your question--of course it did, especially with Bernie Sanders supporters. If you remember Sanders was also campaigning on a rigged election. Wikileaks leaked Debbie Wasserman's email regarding her anxiety over Sanders--and we had Sanders supporters all over this board--:stating that if Sanders did not win--they would be casting a vote for Trump. Trump immediately jumped in to sweep up the collateral damage, by campaigning and appealing to Sanders supporters. So even though Hillary Clinton beat Sanders ass by 3,775,437 popular votes, Sanders supporters still believed that the election was rigged against him. There was also a lot of FAKE news put out by Russia on social media outlets, always FALSE & negative against Hillary Clinton. The youth in this country get their news from social media outlets. We even had one nut case believe that Hillary Clinton was running a child sex operation out of a pizza joint in D.C.--that almost became deadly, because he read from social media.
RealClearPolitics - 2016 Democratic Popular Vote
N.C. man told police he went to D.C. pizzeria with gun to investigate conspiracy theory

And who loves Wikileaks? Trump and his supporters. Julian Assange who has been hold'd up in the Ecuador embassy for the last 4 years avoiding extradition back to the United States to face charges on what he did to G.W Bush, and recently leaking thousands of classified CIA documents on how they catch terrorists. This was who they were cheering on. You'll note that Wikileaks never attacks Russia, it's always the United States. Russia does the hacking's then turns it over to Wikileaks to leak. That's how it has worked for the last 15 years. Julian Assange clearly works for Russia.
Analyst says WikiLeaks dump 'devastating' for CIA - CNNPolitics.com
Why is Julian Assange still inside the embassy of Ecuador?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Obama DID kill Americans without due process.

So did Tramp! But it was OK when Tramp did it.

Oh really? When did Trump kill Americans?

In Yemen, when Tramp killed an 8 year old American girl, as if you didn't know already!

ISIS Princess

No patriot would call any child an "American" who became a voluntary human shield for terrorists. That automatically forfeited her citizenship; I don't care what the traitors' laws say. She was old enough to know what she was doing for the religion of human sacrifice.

So you think that an 8 year old "voluntarily" become a human shield?

See You Later, Golfing Gator

So, if a child suicide bomber comes up to our troops, they should let him approach because he wasn't old enough to know what he was doing? This ignorance of what goes on outside of what you are shown is the reason we must have a draft, and 18-year-olds must be drafted before going to college. Our rulers who make up the Rules of Engagement have no personal experience of war and have no sons out there to put at risk under their unrealistic ROEs. You self-righteous war moralists cover up your guilt at not serving by telling yourselves that it would have turned you into "baby killers."

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

Comey has proven himself to be politically motivated ("she was merely careless" "she did not intend to violate federal law" "she did not understand that her server was illegal and unsecured").

the left has claimed that "all 17 intelligence services say that Russia tried to influence our election". 17 intelligence agencies???? name them please, all 17.

Lying and intentionally spinning facts are very close to the same thing.

Bottom line: you on the left cannot get over the fact that the American voters rejected your flawed candidate and that Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to run for president. Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

MmHm.

Those "facts", no matter how credible you believe they are, exist separate and outside of the facts of Russian interference.

I was somewhat disappointed that you opted not to address my question directly but rather offered a somewhat ambiguous half-answer in the form of a narrative packaged with a generous helping of deflection.

Russian interference actually happened. It is accepted as fact by every echelon and iteration of our intelligence community, the FBI and the military.

Proof?

I offer nothing more than the unclassified report and Sworn testimony on the subject.
Of course you are not obliged to accept them, but just know that you are then by default, suggesting some sort of conspiracy that motivates these men to diliberately lie under extraordinary circumstances.


The intelligence community report on Russian activities in the 2016 election

Senior Intelligence Officials Testify Russia | Video | C-SPAN.org

 

[Redfish]

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

Comey has proven himself to be politically motivated ("she was merely careless" "she did not intend to violate federal law" "she did not understand that her server was illegal and unsecured").

the left has claimed that "all 17 intelligence services say that Russia tried to influence our election". 17 intelligence agencies???? name them please, all 17.

Lying and intentionally spinning facts are very close to the same thing.

Bottom line: you on the left cannot get over the fact that the American voters rejected your flawed candidate and that Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to run for president. Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

MmHm.

Those "facts", no matter how credible you believe they are, exist separate and outside of the facts of Russian interference.

I was somewhat disappointed that you opted not to address my question directly but rather offered a somewhat ambiguous half-answer in the form of a narrative packaged with a generous helping of deflection.

Russian interference actually happened. It is accepted as fact by every echelon and iteration of our intelligence community, the FBI and the military.

Proof?

I offer nothing more than the unclassified report and Sworn testimony on the subject.
Of course you are not obliged to accept them, but just know that you are then by default, suggesting some sort of conspiracy that motivates these men to diliberately lie under extraordinary circumstances.


The intelligence community report on Russian activities in the 2016 election

Senior Intelligence Officials Testify Russia | Video | C-SPAN.org

OK, lets assume that the hacking of the DNC was done by the Russians.

Now, what did that hacking disclose?

1. corruption within the DNC to steal the primaries for clinton
2. that the dem superdelegates control the primaries and that the regular delegates are a joke
3. that the DNC and the Hillary campaign colluded with the media to help Hillary

So, the hacking disclosed the truth and the truth hurt Hillary. Well, whoopy, doopty, doo.


still waiting for a list of our 17 intelligence agencies------got it yet?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government.

Why would Russia prefer a strong president (Trump). over someone that they could easily blackmail (Hillary)? They had the info on Hillary and DNC corruption, why not just hold it, let her get elected and then use it to blackmail her to get what they want?

your entire "Russia hacked our election" theme is bullshit and a fails a basic test of logic.

there is no proof that wikileaks got the info from the Russian government

The only possible way you can say that is if you believe the FBI and the entire IC is lying.

Do you believe that?

Comey has proven himself to be politically motivated ("she was merely careless" "she did not intend to violate federal law" "she did not understand that her server was illegal and unsecured").

the left has claimed that "all 17 intelligence services say that Russia tried to influence our election". 17 intelligence agencies???? name them please, all 17.

Lying and intentionally spinning facts are very close to the same thing.

Bottom line: you on the left cannot get over the fact that the American voters rejected your flawed candidate and that Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt person ever to run for president. Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

Until you accept those facts you will continue to post bullshit excuses.

MmHm.

Those "facts", no matter how credible you believe they are, exist separate and outside of the facts of Russian interference.

I was somewhat disappointed that you opted not to address my question directly but rather offered a somewhat ambiguous half-answer in the form of a narrative packaged with a generous helping of deflection.

Russian interference actually happened. It is accepted as fact by every echelon and iteration of our intelligence community, the FBI and the military.

Proof?

I offer nothing more than the unclassified report and Sworn testimony on the subject.
Of course you are not obliged to accept them, but just know that you are then by default, suggesting some sort of conspiracy that motivates these men to diliberately lie under extraordinary circumstances.


The intelligence community report on Russian activities in the 2016 election

Senior Intelligence Officials Testify Russia | Video | C-SPAN.org

OK, lets assume that the hacking of the DNC was done by the Russians.

Now, what did that hacking disclose?

1. corruption within the DNC to steal the primaries for clinton
2. that the dem superdelegates control the primaries and that the regular delegates are a joke
3. that the DNC and the Hillary campaign colluded with the media to help Hillary

So, the hacking disclosed the truth and the truth hurt Hillary. Well, whoopy, doopty, doo.


still waiting for a list of our 17 intelligence agencies------got it yet?

I provided all anyone should need.

I think you need to start outlining the how's and why's of the vast conspiracy against Trump.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Tramp said "I know more than the generals, belibe me."

Obama said the same thing, right after his Generals told him not to pull out of Iraq. We seen how that worked out.

LIAR!

From the Communist News Network:

"Only very few of the loudest opponents of the Iraq war advocated complete withdrawal. The U.S. military commanders recommended at least 15,000 troops remain. Obama once again ignored his generals, as he did with Afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with a politically calculated decision."

Obama risks Iraq for political expediency - CNN.com

As always the Conservative News Network blames Bush's failures on others!

From Bush's own White House website:
President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement
The various political institutions have taken a very strong leadership position and the agreement was ratified, was approved by our political system, our parliament, and various institutions of the Iraqi government. They have approved and ratified the SOFA agreement and the withdrawal of American forces.

No President has to support the actions of the last. Look at how Trump is De-Bamaing the country.

It's a cheap excuse for failure. Had it been even slightly a success, nobody would have known what GW proposed.

But as we all know, it's never a Democrats fault. Eight years later, and every failure of DumBama was Bush's or the Republican Congresses fault. Obama didn't have to honor anything.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's easy. Because he's not Putins bitch.

Putin supports Assad and if he had control of Trump our forces never would have bombed Assad's airbase killing a general.

Trump didn't like the dead civilians so he cleared the attack.

Easy, peasy.

Trump's Attack was barely a pin prick... The Airport was up and running within 12 hours, Delta Airlines have struggled to make that in time.

This was a distraction, simple as... There is no follow plan, strategy....

Only a fool would be distracted, Now back to Russian Influence in the election.

OK, lets talk about Russia and the election. You on the left claim that the Russians "hacked our election". Right?

What did they actually do? Someone (maybe Russia) gave wikileaks access to the DNC email system and showed the corruption and lying within the DNC and the Hillary campaign. Those e-mails also confirmed collusion between the media and the Hillary campaign.

Those are facts. Democrat/Hillary lying and cheating was disclosed.

Did the knowledge of democrat corruption influence the election?
are voters entitled to know when a candidate is corrupt?
Were any voting machines hacked? NO
Were any votes changed? NO

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Your entire premise is stupid. You are saying the election was influenced by the voters knowing the truth-----------------well, duh.

Thank you for at least admitting that.
Russia was behind the hacking and subsequent release of the information. Russia then influenced our election in order to favor Trump.

The only question left is, what if any involvement did the Trump campaign have in the Russian operation?

And where is this proof that Russia "influenced" our election? That's right, there is none. It's all leftist propaganda.

I bet you can't find one person anywhere that said they were about to vote for Hillary until they read the hacked emails. I'll go one further: I bet you can't find anybody who voted that knows what was in those emails in the first place.

You sheep just don't learn. Don't you understand that this entire show is to brainwash you into believing that America did not vote against a Democrat; it was something evil the Republicans came up with?

If the Democrat party was ever honest with you people, and admitted that the public rejects Socialism or Communism, they would lose your support overnight. So the plan is to convince you that it's simply not the case. Americans are in love with Socialism/ Communism. People love the idea of Cradle-to-Grave government.

We are going through the same nonsense that the Democrats promoted during Bush's two terms. Bush won his first term because of the Supreme Court, not because of liberal policies. Bush won his second term because of Diebold machines, not because of liberal policies. Trump won because of help from Russia, not because of liberal policies. Even a blind man can see these similarities and connections.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So did Tramp! But it was OK when Tramp did it.

Oh really? When did Trump kill Americans?

In Yemen, when Tramp killed an 8 year old American girl, as if you didn't know already!

ISIS Princess

No patriot would call any child an "American" who became a voluntary human shield for terrorists. That automatically forfeited her citizenship; I don't care what the traitors' laws say. She was old enough to know what she was doing for the religion of human sacrifice.

So you think that an 8 year old "voluntarily" become a human shield?

See You Later, Golfing Gator

So, if a child suicide bomber comes up to our troops, they should let him approach because he wasn't old enough to know what he was doing? This ignorance of what goes on outside of what you are shown is the reason we must have a draft, and 18-year-olds must be drafted before going to college. Our rulers who make up the Rules of Engagement have no personal experience of war and have no sons out there to put at risk under their unrealistic ROEs. You self-righteous war moralists cover up your guilt at not serving by telling yourselves that it would have turned you into "baby killers."

I did 20 years in the Corps you moron. Joined just in time to invade Iraq the first time and served long enough to be apart of the return engagement to Iraq. And yet, in those 20 years I never turned into a baby killer. Have you ever even been outside of the state you live in, let alone the country?

 

[Eloy]

From the Communist News Network:

"Only very few of the loudest opponents of the Iraq war advocated complete withdrawal. The U.S. military commanders recommended at least 15,000 troops remain. Obama once again ignored his generals, as he did with Afghanistan, and instead pressed ahead with a politically calculated decision."

Obama risks Iraq for political expediency - CNN.com

Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims

Obama wanted to keep 10,000 troops in Iraq, ABC's Raddatz claims
"They wanted 10,000 troops to remain in Iraq -- not combat troops, but military advisers, special operations forces, to watch the counterterrorism effort," she said.

Shortly before Obama took office in January 2009, his predecessor, George W. Bush, finalized an important agreement after about a year of negotiations with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Called the Status of Forces Agreement, it spelled out the withdrawal of all American troops by the end of 2011.

The Obama administration was initially open to leaving up to 10,000 troops in Iraq after the scheduled pullout at the end of 2011, a controversial pitch that would have required approval from Iraq’s divided government to change the 2008 agreement

It did not stay there. The New York Times detailed how the one-time goal of a 10,000-person force shrank before negotiations failed altogether.

The agreement failed over a demand that American troops be given immunity from prosecution by Iraqis, a very touchy political issue within the Iraqi Parliament.

Right, something we would have never heard about if Iraq wasn't a total failure.

The best part about being a Democrat is never having to say you were wrong.

Republicans seem to believe Bomber Trump was never wrong about anything and never will be even when he makes 180° degree flip-flops.