I didn't vote for long term tariffs.

[TemplarKormac]

You were probably the only one.

Well more accurately, my grandmother did. She was the one balancing the checkbook then.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I haven't kept up with the news recently, been busy working for a change!!

Edit : Just read the news, had said the tariffs were a dumb thing to do as opposed to calling Trump dumb.

Well I'm happy to call Trump dumb, among other things.

 

[Dragonlady]

Eh, so I guess I'll do it myself, then.

The time to do it was BEFORE you voted for this clown.

Not only did you vote for this shit, but you clearly paid no attention to what Trump did the last time he was in office either, or you would have know better than to vote for him this time.

I've been posting these easy to understand charts since Trump was first in office. Look at what has happened to the US Balance of Trade since Trump's first election. There are charts like this for every nation you trade with.

International Trade

www.census.gov

2016 - Trade Deficit $735,326.0 billion - Obama's last year - down from $816,200 when Obama took office

2017 - Trade Deficit $792,319.6 - Trump takes office and issues tariffs against Canada and Mexico

2018 - Trade Deficit $870,358.4 - Trump issues tariffs against China and the EU at the first of the year

2019 - Trade Deficit $845,759.2 - Looks better on paper, until you realize that US exports DROPPED by $20 billion over 2018.

2020 - Trade Deficit $901,481.8 - Exports dropped by more than $220 billion dollars.

With Biden in office, exports took off like skyrockets. Trump's best year for exports was 2018, when he was going all in on tariffs. Exports totalled $1,665,786.9. In 2024, the Biden economy exported $2,065,780.0. That's a 24% percent increase over Trump's best year.

If you look at Trump's worst year for exports - 2020, Biden's 2024 imports are more than 44% higher than 2020.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The time to do it was BEFORE you voted for this clown.

Not only did you vote for this shit, but you clearly paid no attention to what Trump did the last time he was in office either, or you would have know better than to vote for him this time.

I've been posting these easy to understand charts since Trump was first in office. Look at what has happened to the US Balance of Trade since Trump's first election.


2016 - Trade Deficit $735,326.0 billion - Obama's last year - down from $816,200 when Obama took office

2017 - Trade Deficit $792,319.6 - Trump takes office and issues tariffs against Canada and Mexico

2018 - Trade Deficit $870,358.4 - Trump issues tariffs against China and the EU at the first of the year

2019 - Trade Deficit $845,759.2 - Looks better on paper, until you realize that US exports DROPPED by $20 billion over 2018.

2020 - Trade Deficit $901,481.8 - Exports dropped by more than $220 billion dollars.

With Biden in office, exports took off like skyrockets. Trump's best year for exports was 2018, when he was going all in on tariffs. Exports totalled $1,665,786.9. In 2024, the Biden economy exported $2,065,780.0. That's a 24% percent increase over Trump's best year.

If you look at Trump's worst year for exports - 2020, Biden's 2024 imports are more than 44% higher than 2020.

Wait, aren't you one of the Canadian members of this board?

And you have the gall to tell me how to participate in my own country's political process?

Bold, aren't you?

 

[TemplarKormac]

The time to do it was BEFORE you voted for this clown.

Not only did you vote for this shit, but you clearly paid no attention to what Trump did the last time he was in office either, or you would have know better than to vote for him this time.

I've been posting these easy to understand charts since Trump was first in office. Look at what has happened to the US Balance of Trade since Trump's first election. There are charts like this for every nation you trade with.

International Trade

www.census.gov

2016 - Trade Deficit $735,326.0 billion - Obama's last year - down from $816,200 when Obama took office

2017 - Trade Deficit $792,319.6 - Trump takes office and issues tariffs against Canada and Mexico

2018 - Trade Deficit $870,358.4 - Trump issues tariffs against China and the EU at the first of the year

2019 - Trade Deficit $845,759.2 - Looks better on paper, until you realize that US exports DROPPED by $20 billion over 2018.

2020 - Trade Deficit $901,481.8 - Exports dropped by more than $220 billion dollars.

With Biden in office, exports took off like skyrockets. Trump's best year for exports was 2018, when he was going all in on tariffs. Exports totalled $1,665,786.9. In 2024, the Biden economy exported $2,065,780.0. That's a 24% percent increase over Trump's best year.

If you look at Trump's worst year for exports - 2020, Biden's 2024 imports are more than 44% higher than 2020.

(Taps the sign)

Biden extended Trump first term tariffs. Leftists like you were blissfully unaware.

 

[Dragonlady]

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Blow it out your ass you stupid Canadian ... No one was asking your retarded opinion ...
And we were talking about free markets and not just government-controlled markets dumbass ...

I never once suggested Canada represented an expansive free-market condition ...
Because they could never survive one.

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How can there be a "free market" when all companies are controlled by government regulation governing wages, taxes, etc.?

Neither could any democratic country - see Brazil, Chile, Venezuela.

 

[Dragonlady]

Wait, aren't you one of the Canadian members of this board?

And you have the gall to tell me how to participate in my own country's political process?

Bold, aren't you?

Who the fuck do you think YOU are, living in your grandmother's basement, Mr. High and Mighty.

Somebody needs to teach you something and then maybe you wouldn't make such stupid mistakes.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

I voted for Trump to lower prices. I voted for him not to cause trade wars with other countries. Now we're all going to see price increases.

I hope those willing to endure the economic hardship so we can stick it to other countries can justify to me why this was necessary. Why did we need these tariffs when we could have done something to ease the pain here in America?

Yes you did vote for long term tariffs. Trump was CRYSTAL clear that he was/is in favor of tariffs and telling YOU so when he was campaigning. IF YOU REGRET voting for Trump, let us know.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-official-i-regret-voting-for-trump-thread.1151148/

 

[Clipper]

I'm hoping rather than just rating my post "fake news" they can explain why it's fake news. I'm hoping someone can justify to me why we need to pay higher prices?

Because your fellow MAGA travellers who voted for that deranged jerkoff will NEVER admit that he's fucking over the very same people who support him.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Well I'm happy to call Trump dumb, among other things.

Well, if you think someone who achieved President and a billionaire dumb...........

We can all do dumb things but Trump is certainly not dumb, no matter how hurty ones feelings might be.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well, if you think someone who achieved President and a billionaire dumb...........

We can all do dumb things but Trump is certainly not dumb, no matter how hurty ones feelings might be.

He might not be dumber than you but he's certainly dumber than me, life's a bitch ain't it

 

[Captain Caveman]

A grown man who cannot pronounce Yosemite and advocates injecting disinfectant and who is "leading" our country, is dumb, you can turd polish fi you want, but he's dumb I don't need your advice on when the word is used correctly.

Ok

 

[TemplarKormac]

Who the fuck do you think YOU are, living in your grandmother's basement, Mr. High and Mighty.

Somebody needs to teach you something and then maybe you wouldn't make such stupid mistakes.

Lol. The basement insults.

To ad lib a famous Reagan quote:

I'M PAYING FOR THIS BASEMENT MS DRAGONLADY!

Now if you have anything substantial to add, please continue. That or shut yer yap, interloper.

 

[Clipper]

Justify?
Apparently we've been getting ripped off by other countries on their tariffs against us. Trump wants to return the favor and now they're upset.
Welcome to the world of global trade.

Hey genius, it was your idiot dear leader Dopetard who signed the USMCA when he was the fake POTUS. Of course that tard wants you to forget that fact.

Now cry some more.

 

[BlackSand]

How can there be a "free market" when all companies are controlled by government regulation governing wages, taxes, etc.?

Neither could any democratic country - see Brazil, Chile, Venezuela.

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That's why I said you had to go to a third world country to even find a free market ... Try to keep up dumbass ...
One not yet corrupted by the utter nonsense ... And continuous failure you are expressing.

A good example would be some markets in Belize ...
After they were smart enough to kick out the British in 1981.

When they started developing their markets ... They stayed away from a lot of the crap you are talking about.
The markets the government there chooses to influence ... Are in light of the fact they are required to ...
In order to maintain loans agreements with the International Banks.

But ... That doesn't include all their markets ... And some of their markets are free ...
And most appropriately because they provide more revenues being free ...
And without oppressive taxation and meddling ... Than they would otherwise.

Growth is desired ... And you don't grow stuff by smothering it ...
And robbing all its resources ...

How about you just keep your greedy little paws out of everyone's pocket?

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[excalibur]

This

 

[TemplarKormac]

Somebody needs to teach you something and then maybe you wouldn't make such stupid mistakes.

Oh? Is that a threat, little lady?

I'll teach you basic human biology so you might remotely qualify to teach me anything.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So, oil and coal are two things I can think of.

Tariffs on those will impact the prices of everything else.

It's only 10%. You didn't take that into account did you?

 

[TemplarKormac]

It's only 10%. You didn't take that into account did you?

"With the possibility of going higher"

Also China will be retaliating with 25 I believe.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

"With the possibility of going higher"

Also China will be retaliating with 25 I believe.

Again, I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, don't buy products from China, Canada or Mexico and you will never see it.