Admiral Rockwell Tory
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How did our government make money before the income tax?
I didn't vote for long term tariffs.
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Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Here's some hypocrisy from the pro-maga Daily Mail, their coverage is always infantile but they have a lot of infantile trumpanzee readers to cater to I suppose.
Trump's been calling Trudeau "governor" since Jan 20 yet the DM implies it is Trudeau that began the "personal" insults today
Trump really is nasty little twat of a man.
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Trump has also said the "Canada isn't a real country", echoing Putin's slander of the Ukraine.
Trudeau has owned Trump's ass in every one of their encounters. Trump slapped tariffs on Canada and Mexico in 2017 to "force them to the bargaining table" to renegotiate NAFTA - a terrible deal for the USA giving Canada an $11 billion trade surplus.
Canada and Mexico have been asking to update NAFTA for at least 10 years prior to Trump's election and both countries would have jumped at any offer to renegotiate, but Trump had to play the "tough guy" bending people to his will.
Now Trump calls the deal He signed "stupid" and asks who would sign such a "stupid deal". You did Donnie. And your trade deficit with Canada went from $11 billion in 2016, under Obama, to $63 billion last year.
The "Great Negotiator" strikes again.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Why would we be dead? We have so much oil and gas, we give your all of our extra. Ditto electricity.
What is it you think we're not able to provide for ourselves???
Admiral Rockwell Tory
Diamond Member
What goods does your grandmother need from Canada or Mexico? Is she addicted to avocados drizzled in maple syrup?
What does she need that you can't get elsewhere?
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Well there you have it. Country simple explanation.
I would have tried to explain all of that with like ten freakin paragraphs, going into the complexities of the hows of it all.
And I just didn't feel like it, Black. Gosh honest truth. As I said, it's where I'm at these days. Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.
Thanks for chiming in.
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Thinker101
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TemplarKormac
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I miss-calculated.
BrokeLoser
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Question…how do you see tariffs effecting you personally?
TemplarKormac
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That actually depends on what's being tariffed. (is that even a word?)
Show me a list, and I can give you a definitive answer.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Completely false. Who controls the money supply???? The Government. There is no free market and never has been. All markets have been controlled by governments the human race started living in permanent cities and towns.
Government does a lot of things that the free market does not do, starting with protecting the property rights of individuals.
That's why the billionaires are trying to create their own currency with bitcoins. Then they can take over the money supply and replace government.
What exactly will be our cause of death? We cut our imports of American consumer goods by $9 billion per year last time Trump was in office, and we're better organized since covid, to produce our own stuff, because you weren't making anything.
The vehicles, machinery and equipment imports, are all used in the production of cars. Cars and car parts go back and forth across both borders multiple time in manufacturing. That's the biggest chunk of goods coming into Canada from the USA.
All of our table meat and dairy is grown in Canada, because beef raised in the USA is full of anti-biotics and hormones that are not permitted here. Trump calls that "unfair". It's also "unfair" that your GMO, and factory raised meat is also banned in Europe. So unfair.
Ask yourself why Americans are so fat, and their life expectancy is declining? Keep your food factory garbage off our shelves.
TemplarKormac
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Well, ain't that the dumbest thing I've heard all day today?
TemplarKormac
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Your paranoia is astounding.
BrokeLoser
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I ask because a Lib friend of mine was screaming TARIFFS!!! at the sky and I asked him….”You’re obviously upset about tariffs so you’ve done the math…how much do you expect tariffs to cost you?”
He was perplexed…had no answer. So I asked…”why are you so upset?”
He still couldn’t answer so I chalked it up to TDS.
TemplarKormac
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Eh, so I guess I'll do it myself, then.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
No, it's a fact. Your markets are all highly regulated.
You can't start a company without filing incorporation papers - which are highly regulated. You can't hire employees to work for you unless you pay them a minimum wage, pay withholding on their wages, and abide by regulations regarding overtime pay, and statutory holidays.
In a true "free market", none of these things are regulated, there are regulations or laws to follow, and wages and prices are free to float. In reality, what happens is the wealthy oppress the poor, and makes for horrendous abuse for workers who have no power.
See Chile, Argentina, Venezuela and Brasil - all of whom tried Milton Friedman's "capitalism on steroids" approach. All are 2nd tier nations now, even though they have resources, and all of the ingredients of successful economies. Just not anything to limit the exploitation of low income workers by the oligarchs.
TemplarKormac
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So, oil and coal are two things I can think of.
Tariffs on those will impact the prices of everything else.
BlackSand
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Blow it out your ass you stupid Canadian ... No one was asking your retarded opinion ...
And we were talking about free markets and not just government-controlled markets dumbass ...
I never once suggested Canada represented an expansive free-market condition ...
Because they could never survive one.
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Blow it out your ass you stupid Canadian ... No one was asking your retarded opinion ...
And we were talking about free markets and not just government-controlled markets dumbass ...
I never once suggested Canada represented an expansive free-market condition ...
Because they could never survive one.
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You were probably the only one.
I haven't kept up with the news recently, been busy working for a change!!
Edit : Just read the news, had said the tariffs were a dumb thing to do as opposed to calling Trump dumb.
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