How the Democrats rigged the 2020 election

[Hang on Sloopy]

This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

The whole illegal issues are election laws changed at the last minute in all of the Fraud states. This was a calculated and deliberate fraud. Election laws can only be changed through full legislation through the legislature.

This was the origins for the fraud to let happen.

Nine states changed election rules/laws prior to the 2020 election:
Florida
Tennessee
Ohio
Arizona
New York
California
Georgia
Mississippi
Wisconsin

Great. Could you give me the exact process it was for say, Florida. What was their procedures in accordance with their laws.

 

[Mac-7]

In terms of what Mac said - I've seen all those claims being made here in one form or another, including the crazy idea that the Democrats colluded with China to release the virus (that tops the charts on looney imo).

I suppose its possible that you and Mac1958 listen to an obscure podcast that no one else ever heard of

But its more likely that you had to go searching for an example to pull your buddy Mac1958 chestnuts out of the fire

And sure enough you found something

How clever of you

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

To end this discussion.

There are 1000 liberal lawyers watching every molecule in this forensic test.

From what I'm understanding, there will be another forensic audit by a different company to verify the first.

Please liberals spare me the cost thing. You never have been concerned being a glutton with other peoples money.

If the audit proves everything was ok.Than it was.




But it is so sad how you used Fauci to shut down half of this country and lie so much about this virus. Causing national riots over it. Causing people such misery and stress.

All to rid of usTrump.................My God what the history books will write about a serious mental condition ITDS....Infantile Trump Derangement Syndrome

This was all preplanned Covid hoax to cause mass election hysteria.

If you can go to the store to get malt liquor...You can walk to the booth.

Bye. Talk to you after the initial Maricopa forensic audit.

 

[jc456]

Secretary of State’s didn’t extend the election?

Not that I’m aware of. Pennsylvania’s ballot deadline was extended by their Supreme Court.

Not their jurisdiction either

 

[colfax_m]

Not their jurisdiction either

The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has a lot of jurisdiction in Pennsylvania.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Name any other election where multiple states didnt finish counting and left it dangling for weeks.
Hell they even had FLorida on hold until Fox business called em on it as most votes left were in Repub areas. Then you have to suspend reality to think responsible voters voted for a dementia patient and a nobody with zero support in record numbers.

 

[Care4all]

I tried to make it as strag

Primarily, via mail in ballot fraud, obviously.

When you look at the numbers, they are very anomalous in key areas.

Only an EXTREMELY rigid leftist partisan would ignore all these anomalies. There are so many of them that only a fool would try to explain them away.

How so many primarily black precincts could show those absolutely unreal voter turnouts defies all logic, especially considering the established pattern of voting turnout in them.

That's exactly the problem, but not in the way you think.

Republicans can't believe a group that traditionally has not voted in large numbers suddenly coming out and voting in large numbers.

Why is that so unbelievable? Obama inspired a huge black turn out (not surprisingly) and much of it through a large grass roots efforts. A similar effort went on in this election only the lightning rod wasn't Obama, it was Trump. Just he inspired his supporters to come out in unprecedented numbers, he also inspired his detractors to come out in unprecedented numbers.

If you find it believable that an unprecedented number of people came out to vote for Trump in 2020....why is it NOT believable that an unprecedented number of people came out and voted for Biden in 2020?

And particularly...why is it unbelievable that the normally politically apathetic black communities in these areas wouldn't be galvanized? There were powerful get out the vote activities going on - convincing people that their vote mattered.

And now...they can see the result of that, their vote made a difference without question, in key areas....and yet Republicans are actively trying to take it away and even disenfranchise them. That is pretty disturbing imo.

". . .and yet Republicans are actively trying to take it away and even disenfranchise them. That is pretty disturbing imo."

I have no problem with any of this post. Except this last part. . . I do not understand this. . . POV, or how folks believe this is the case.

Why not let the Trump supporters have the audits their way, release the source code from Dominion, and put the whole controversy to rest?
They had media fed to them, which made the election, or at least, the way it was conducted, look pretty suspicious. I have no idea, why you can't put yourself in their shoes, or why media was put out to generate this narrative. . . for profit, to create a spectacle, to engage the public with the process and sell ads?

Why is the left so against vetting the whole election in an complete, open, and fair way? I just don't get that.

You state that Republicans are actively trying to "take it away," but fail to acknowledge, that this is the way that folks feel about the way the establishment conducted the election. There is a significant portion of the electorate that feel they have had their traditional system of representation taken away. True or not, this is the message media subcultures have generated, they have seen scenes of it, physical evidence of it, and mathematical calculations of it with their own eyes.

Just prove every vote was a legal vote, and don't whine about doing so, and, IMO, things would be fine.

. . . don't sit there and make the claim it has been done so, when various methods to placate the low information masses were half measures to only confirm the official narrative as the only techniques to have been employed.

that's what Republicans get for not hiring an accredited election audit team, and using a man's company who worked for Sidney Powell...and proclaimed the election was stolen.

Dominion did not release their source code to the State hired independent certified election auditors either.

But dominion did open up the systems for them, to do their forensic audit.... Because they were state certified, trustworthy auditors.

Republicans chose to hire political, partisan, actors..... This is their doings that won't give you the audit you were hoping for.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

The whole illegal issues are election laws changed at the last minute in all of the Fraud states. This was a calculated and deliberate fraud. Election laws can only be changed through full legislation through the legislature.

This was the origins for the fraud to let happen.

So what you are calling fraud, is legal American citizens, actually being able to cast their vote, during a pandemic?I

That's the fraud? Citizens, yes Citizens.... Being able to cast their vote for president and other positions that are suppose to actually represent them, and is their Constitutional right?

Okie dokie!I


PS. The courts ruled the changes in all the different states were ok...

The citizens followed the law and procedures they were told were the law, by the court settlements.

That is NOT fraud. The citizens followed the rules in place. If the Secretary of States had not added COVID provisions to vote, they would have followed the existing rules, it they could.

AND only one of these court suits made it to the supreme court months after the election in appeal, and the SC ruled for that particular SOS ....the thing they did, should be done by the legislature....but did not affect the 2020 election results to even come close giving Trump a win.

All the judges judging these claims were liberal judges in majority. They we're in on it too, to seize an opportunity with Covid to make all kind of ills......See ya in Maricopa

 

[jc456]

Not their jurisdiction either

The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has a lot of jurisdiction in Pennsylvania.

Not creating legislation

 

[Slade3200]

The establishment of both parties couldn't let Trump stay in power because he was preventing them from their robbery as usual method of governance. They couldn't stand the fact that an unlimited amount of money was there for the taking and Trump was forcing them to be honest. Stealing the election was their only salvation. In addition to the easy money, there were also large numbers of DOJ people who stood a good chance of ending up in jail if Trump was reelected. The stolen election was a big part of the DOJ criminal coverup.

So both major parties had motivation to take him out.

Would you say my characterization above is fair?

After all of this, I don't think we had an honest election since Ike. Kennedy's father stole 60, but stealing led to cleaning brain and blood matter off Daly Plaza.

Any Democrat ever winning was by fraud since 60. Any Repub winning means the Dems did not cheat enough

I see poll workers moving suitcases as Dem party operatives. Poll workers must be thoroughly vetted, like picking a Grand Jury

Now some will say it will cost more. When did a Dem ever worry about cost unless they paid for it????????

If Obama can give Africa millions to teach men to properly wash their Johnsons, then we have the money for election security.

Would you say the characterization in the OP is fair and relatively complete from a big picture perspective?

TLDR. If it can't be summed up in 3 sentences, I never bother to read it. My opinion would be the same without reading it. So I give opinions on OPs that are 3 sentences long.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today. The OP was well written and concise. You’re engaging from a place of ignorance so how can you be taken seriously?

 

[colfax_m]

Not creating legislation

Legislation isn’t always constitutional.

 

[jc456]

Not creating legislation

Legislation isn’t always constitutional.

Sure it is. And the Supreme Court doesn’t write legislation

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Name any other election where multiple states didnt finish counting and left it dangling for weeks.
Hell they even had FLorida on hold until Fox business called em on it as most votes left were in Repub areas. Then you have to suspend reality to think responsible voters voted for a dementia patient and a nobody with zero support in record numbers.

At midnight. I felt fraud electrify through my body. The smell was horrific. Just like I did when I realized Democrat Operative Health Czar Fauci lied and ruined us a year ago........Just like the preplanned Pelosi blessed capital riot.


See ya in Maricopa

 

[candycorn]

This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand it, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Its incredible how the people who routinely call you a POS when you post about the 2020 election suddenly agree with you.

As for the thread itself...if you substituted the 2020 election for the 9/11 terrorists attacks...it would sound eerily similar in terms of the conspiracy theories.

And of course..."the cover-up continues to this day". don-don-donnnnnntttt!

 

[Mac-7]

The OP was well written and concise

The op is troll bait

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Slade3200]

The Dems can prove their claims,

Why didn't they then?

Those claims were proven. They were reported by our intel agencies… and reaffirmed by multiple directors appointed by Trump

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

The establishment of both parties couldn't let Trump stay in power because he was preventing them from their robbery as usual method of governance. They couldn't stand the fact that an unlimited amount of money was there for the taking and Trump was forcing them to be honest. Stealing the election was their only salvation. In addition to the easy money, there were also large numbers of DOJ people who stood a good chance of ending up in jail if Trump was reelected. The stolen election was a big part of the DOJ criminal coverup.

So both major parties had motivation to take him out.

Would you say my characterization above is fair?

After all of this, I don't think we had an honest election since Ike. Kennedy's father stole 60, but stealing led to cleaning brain and blood matter off Daly Plaza.

Any Democrat ever winning was by fraud since 60. Any Repub winning means the Dems did not cheat enough

I see poll workers moving suitcases as Dem party operatives. Poll workers must be thoroughly vetted, like picking a Grand Jury

Now some will say it will cost more. When did a Dem ever worry about cost unless they paid for it????????

If Obama can give Africa millions to teach men to properly wash their Johnsons, then we have the money for election security.

Would you say the characterization in the OP is fair and relatively complete from a big picture perspective?

TLDR. If it can't be summed up in 3 sentences, I never bother to read it. My opinion would be the same without reading it. So I give opinions on OPs that are 3 sentences long.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today. The OP was well written and concise. You’re engaging from a place of ignorance so how can you be taken seriously?

Well. I never worked for a boss. Called all my shots. Never lived by alarm clock. Didn't come home exhausted from miserable coworkers in a toxic company. Dropping dead 2 days after retiring. Not working a day in my life doing what I was put on Earth to do.

^^^^^These circumstances have always formed my opinions. You call me ignorant, so I always have to explain it this way and my ignorance at life in general.
.My Lord. I can't remember ever making this many posts without cursing. I don't think I cursed today yet....Thanky OP for making me do sumptin I never dids befores

 

[Care4all]

This is a serious thread, opened (and hopefully kept) in the Clean Debate Zone so that we can have some serious and thoughtful clarity on this whole controversy.

Obviously this is a complicated topic, but what I'm after here is focus, clarity, and conciseness. Your shortest, clearest, most succinct responses.

From what I'm reading, seeing and hearing, this is what Trump supporters believe happened before, during and after the 2020 elections, in three parts:

1. Fearing that President Donald Trump would win re-election in 2020, the Democrats approached and worked with the Chinese government to release a deadly virus that would disrupt the 2020 American election process and provide an excuse for the Democrats to revise/ease voting requirements. These looser requirements would provide the cover they needed to (among other things) insert doctored ballots (some of which may have been doctored by the Chinese themselves), hide/destroy ballots, and count legal ballots multiple times. Dr Anthony Fauci, a key member of the government's health system, was recruited to spread false and misleading information to the public and advance this effort.

2. A large number of individuals and organizations successfully pulled off the fraud, either working in concert or alone. Providing cover and aid in this endeavor were China, the American major media, American local media, the Democratic Party, SmartMatic and Dominion Software.

3. Once the fraud was detected, the following individuals and groups purposely and actively participated in its coverup in some way, either through dishonesty or the refusal to examine the clear and voluminous evidence of fraud that was provided: The US Supreme Court, Trump-appointed judges, GOP state election officials, GOP governors, GOP state legislatures, the FBI, the CIA, Trump's Justice Department, Trump's Attorney General, Vice President Mike Pence, the Democratic Party, the American major media and Republican congresspeople. To date, these individuals and groups have been successful in holding off the exposure of the evidence.

As I understand, that is the issue, in a nutshell, as succinct as I can make it.

Is this fair and accurate? Please comment and make your best effort to keep this focused, clear and concise.

Okay, I did forget Biden, but let's just include him in the Democratic Party.

Is my characterization fair and relatively accurate?

The whole illegal issues are election laws changed at the last minute in all of the Fraud states. This was a calculated and deliberate fraud. Election laws can only be changed through full legislation through the legislature.

This was the origins for the fraud to let happen.

So what you are calling fraud, is legal American citizens, actually being able to cast their vote, during a pandemic?I

That's the fraud? Citizens, yes Citizens.... Being able to cast their vote for president and other positions that are suppose to actually represent them, and is their Constitutional right?

Okie dokie!I


PS. The courts ruled the changes in all the different states were ok...

The citizens followed the law and procedures they were told were the law, by the court settlements.

That is NOT fraud. The citizens followed the rules in place. If the Secretary of States had not added COVID provisions to vote, they would have followed the existing rules, it they could.

AND only one of these court suits made it to the supreme court months after the election in appeal, and the SC ruled for that particular SOS ....the thing they did, should be done by the legislature....but did not affect the 2020 election results to even come close giving Trump a win.

All the judges judging these claims were liberal judges in majority. They we're in on it too, to seize an opportunity with Covid to make all kind of ills......See ya in Maricopa

How crazy do you have to stretch yourself to come up with that kind of Gumby maneuvering?

All the judges were not Democratic appointed judges dearest one! They were Republican and Trump appointed judges as well....you know this, but lied instead.

 

[Mac1958]

The establishment of both parties couldn't let Trump stay in power because he was preventing them from their robbery as usual method of governance. They couldn't stand the fact that an unlimited amount of money was there for the taking and Trump was forcing them to be honest. Stealing the election was their only salvation. In addition to the easy money, there were also large numbers of DOJ people who stood a good chance of ending up in jail if Trump was reelected. The stolen election was a big part of the DOJ criminal coverup.

So both major parties had motivation to take him out.

Would you say my characterization above is fair?

After all of this, I don't think we had an honest election since Ike. Kennedy's father stole 60, but stealing led to cleaning brain and blood matter off Daly Plaza.

Any Democrat ever winning was by fraud since 60. Any Repub winning means the Dems did not cheat enough

I see poll workers moving suitcases as Dem party operatives. Poll workers must be thoroughly vetted, like picking a Grand Jury

Now some will say it will cost more. When did a Dem ever worry about cost unless they paid for it????????

If Obama can give Africa millions to teach men to properly wash their Johnsons, then we have the money for election security.

Would you say the characterization in the OP is fair and relatively complete from a big picture perspective?

TLDR. If it can't be summed up in 3 sentences, I never bother to read it. My opinion would be the same without reading it. So I give opinions on OPs that are 3 sentences long.

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today. The OP was well written and concise. You’re engaging from a place of ignorance so how can you be taken seriously?

It's their way of answering without having to answer.

As I mentioned, if a new poster had written it, their response would have been different.