How people are leaving MAGA

There are many, many posters here who believe that if you don't adore Trump, you can only be an evil commie leftist. That's the limit of their intellectual depth.

They have to ignore/avoid the fact that there are plenty of people on the right and the middle who believe this is a godamn disaster. That's just dishonest.
thats not it mac....you just cant figure it out can you....and to much of a ***** to confront your critics directly...you are the white version of IM2...he is the same way....
 
I certainly have no idea what he did, if anything. But I have never seen a person go so far out of their way to ACT guilty of something.

It's one of his many character flaws. Any challenge has to be met with an attack. He can't rise above anything. That just doesn't work when you are the President.
I don't personally believe that Trump himself is guilty of certain things, however he certainly is not helping his case.
 
Something I've said a thousand times here is that it's not the the issue or the goal that is the problem. The problem is the way it's being addressed. His behaviors and temperament are simply not going to work in an intelligent, professional, civilized environment. He clearly doesn't understand that the way he approaches things can be a MASSIVE net negative.

So now, Republicans have to worry about the long term effects he will have on their agenda. I think they have many perfectly reasonable concerns and positions. But if this trajectory continues, he'll so soil that agenda that it will take a long time to recover. In the meantime, we'd be careening back to the Left. It's clear that he and his sycophants have not considered that.

Except you are admitted that you goal is to permanenty marginalize us, and never address our interests or grievances, which you admit are valid.


So.... your pretense that it is about HOW Trump is doing shit, is false.


you are deeply hostile to us, based on our desire to have our interests represented in national policy.

Trump has nothing to do with your hostility. He is just the flavor of the day.
 
Congress is in a predicament. They too are owned by Israel. Traitors all around.

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship, if things go south in Iran, they’ll have no choice but to dump Dumb Don but will continue to pledge allegiance to the Zionist Nazi apartheid regime.
As usual, Habib is compelled to dump his Jooooooo fantasies in another thread.
 
Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.
Don't believe it. Since 2016 Trump has been involved with so many scandals, it could fill a book. A snapshot:

Thousands & thousands of lies told by him
The Russia investigation
The Stormy Daniels affair
"Stop The Steal" grift
Lied about IRS audits ("can't release tax returns")
J6 Insurrection
Theft of top secret docs
Multiple felony convictions
W.H. Demo
Rape accusations
Epstein
Emoulements Clause violations
Bribery
DHS
War in Iran

What did the cult do? Voted for him again & the majority STILL support him & always will. No matter what. And guess what? If Trump could run again, they'd reelect him AGAIN. This will end when he does & not until no matter WHAT he does. Period. He has another two & half years to top the shit he's already done because he's a chaos agent who hates this Country & they'll support him right to the end.

History is replete with crazed cult figures like Trump worshipped by millions no matter what they did & not once did it end well. And it won't end well in this country either. Two & a half years to go.
 
History is replete with crazed cult figures like Trump worshipped by millions no matter what they did & not once did it end well. And it won't end well in this country either. Two & a half years to go.
One of the many things that has amazed me during this awful period is the way world history has just been ignored.

Santayana's "those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it" certainly hit the mark.
 
Don't believe it. Since 2016 Trump has been involved with so many scandals, it could fill a book. A snapshot:

Thousands & thousands of lies told by him
The Russia investigation
The Stormy Daniels affair
"Stop The Steal" grift
Lied about IRS audits ("can't release tax returns")
J6 Insurrection
Theft of top secret docs
Multiple felony convictions
W.H. Demo
Rape accusations
Epstein
Emoulements Clause violations
Bribery
DHS
War in Iran

What did the cult do? Voted for him again & the majority STILL support him & always will. No matter what. And guess what? If Trump could run again, they'd reelect him AGAIN. This will end when he does & not until no matter WHAT he does. Period. He has another two & half years to top the shit he's already done because he's a chaos agent who hates this Country & they'll support him right to the end.

History is replete with crazed cult figures like Trump worshipped by millions no matter what they did & not once did it end well. And it won't end well in this country either. Two & a half years to go.
“Two & a half years to go.”

Two & half years for Habib to cut and paste more online tantrums.
 
I certainly have no idea what he did, if anything. But I have never seen a person go so far out of their way to ACT guilty of something.

It's one of his many character flaws. Any challenge has to be met with an attack. He can't rise above anything. That just doesn't work when you are the President.

It ended for me the moment he said we are weaklings for questioning him over the Epstein files. It was truly shocking to see him say that. The betrayal cuts deep.
Be careful, sounds like you got sucked into LibMania…’Trump said something mean and hurt my feelings’ therefore he’s a bad President.
 
Just so long as the deserters realize they will be shot for treason. Survivors will have a live frenade stuffed up their v*****s.
 
//Even improving NATO again: did Obiden? No they just over-paid.//

The globalist elite in Brussels and Washington are terrified. They want the old status quo: America pays, Europe lectures, and endless foreign wars continue forever. Trump wants something better: fair deals or no deal.

Americans are waking up and asking the same question he’s been asking for years: Why exactly are we still carrying these deadbeats?

NATO isn’t dying because Trump hates alliances.

It’s dying because Europe killed it with its own ingratitude, weakness, and shortsightedness.

The ball is now in Europe’s court.
But don’t hold your breath. Trump already knows what time it is. America First.


//filthy Stain. Lying middlers need to be cut off if they don't like success.
 
Lordy-lord, the OP's really shilling for the dems this morning.

Trump may have his warts but he better than what the dems have fielded since, well, forever.

Hell, better than what the gop has fielded in a very long time.

Trump’s approval rating is declining.

 
One of the many things that has amazed me during this awful period is the way world history has just been ignored.

Santayana's "those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it" certainly hit the mark.

The biggest things Trump is doing si deporting the illegals, back home and trying to rebalance trade.


IF he failes, then things remain the same.


All the talk of HItler, or such panic mongering implications with weasel words is stupid shit talk.


MAGA.
 
Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.
Thank Tucker , Candace, JP Sears etc for openly criticizing Trump wrt failing us on the Epstein files and “no new wars”.

Big challenge for democrats is to reject AIPAC/Israeli dominance of the democrat party, and reject identity politics….if they don’t they might still lose in 2028.
 
“Two & a half years to go.”

Two & half years for Habib to cut and paste more online tantrums.
But thanks for taking the time to read it & be triggered, soiling yourself!:113:

How's those gas prices?
 
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Thank Tucker , Candace, JP Sears etc for openly criticizing Trump

Big challenge for democrats is to reject AIPAC/Israeli dominance of the party, and reject identity politics….if they don’t they might still lose in 2028.
It's a bad sign when the best thing both parties have going for them is the other party.

We have to demand better, but I really don't see that happening.
 
Be careful, sounds like you got sucked into LibMania…’Trump said something mean and hurt my feelings’ therefore he’s a bad President.
This is exactly why I have an issue with TDS. The moment you question Trump, you are immediately accused of being a "liberal". This is exactly the kind of purity testing that leads to the insanity of SJW woke liberalism. Except it is on the right.
 
Remember when Ibiden found and stopped all of this? Sarc off.

The financial scope is substantial. The OIG is recommending that Colorado refund approximately $42.6 million to the federal government for payments that clearly violated requirements.
 
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