How people are leaving MAGA

Trump does, ASAP. YT (and sock) Mac&Cheese gang offer noting (just like Obiden) but Stain never shut whining lying mouths.

All is 1000X better now and poised to bang-zoom Alice.//
 
Trump dove headfirst into the Swamp.
After careful analysis, I believe Trump has always been a key figure in Swamp Land. He just did a masterful job of deceiving Americans during his campaign. Convinced all of us that he would clean up D.C. and make it accountable again. He either failed miserably or he never intended to keep his word in the first place.

He now surrounds himself with the worst of the worst: Lindsay Graham, Paula White, Laura Loomer, Jared Kushner, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, "recovering Neocon" Pete Hegseth. Etc. etc.
 
No ... Mac is still America First. If that's your definition of leftism then you need to learn American history. Read the Constitution and the writings of the Founding Fathers. Focus on the reason America broke from King George in the first place.
you were not here ten years ago....you dont know how mac has changed do you?...
 
Trump was supposed to be the change candidate, the reform candidate. That is how he managed to put together such a wide coalition of diverse groups. Instead, he turned out to be the same, if not worse, than every other president before him.
Thankfully, the balance of powers that stop a President from going too far are still holding, if barely.

The difference, of course, has been his incorrigible behaviors that have wrecked our relations and credibility globally.

The flock claims massive domestic wins, and they're delusional.
 
Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.


For most I imagine it's an Irish exit and total denial of ever having been associated with MAGA...
 
No ... Mac is still America First. If that's your definition of leftism then you need to learn American history. Read the Constitution and the writings of the Founding Fathers. Focus on the reason America broke from King George in the first place.
There are many, many posters here who believe that if you don't adore Trump, you can only be an evil commie leftist. That's the limit of their intellectual depth.

They have to ignore/avoid the fact that there are plenty of people on the right and the middle who believe this is a godamn disaster. That's just dishonest.
 
After careful analysis, I believe Trump has always been a key figure in Swamp Land. He just did a masterful job of deceiving Americans during his campaign. Convinced all of us that he would clean up D.C. and make it accountable again. He either failed miserably or he never intended to keep his word in the first place.

He now surrounds himself with the worst of the worst: Lindsay Graham, Paula White, Laura Loomer, Jared Kushner, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, "recovering Neocon" Pete Hegseth. Etc. etc.
Remember how he ran against these people? Then now he surrounds himself with them. A big betrayal of the people who voted for him.

The swamp is alive still.
 
There are many, many posters here who believe that if you don't adore Trump, you can only be an evil commie leftist. That's the limit of their intellectual depth.

They have to ignore/avoid the fact that there are plenty of people on the right and the middle who believe this is a godamn disaster. That's just dishonest.
You tried to kill Trump. Most likely, many Progressive politicians know about it. America today is what the founding fathers warned against. This, however just did not start. It just came out in the open with President Obama and the era that went from news to info commentators. The info commentators need to end.
 
I have never really liked Trump. I could hardly listen to him brag about himself -- incessantly -- and I was never fond of his limited vocabulary. "Very" "Good" and "Bad" make up about 90% of his boastful speeches.

But I did trust that Trump wanted to make America great by taking her from the clutches of the Swamp. There did seem to be a convincing sincerity to his emphasis on American patriotism and nationalism. That appealed to me. I decided to support him. I was elated when he won the election by a landslide. I supported DOGE.

Anyway, I knew the moment Trump said: "Epstein is a hoax" that I had "effed" up. I dropped my support when he told us that we were "weaklings" and that he "no longer needed our support." He's been going downhill ever since.

I'm not precisely certain what turned him from "America First" to Israel First but there's zero doubt that he works for Israel. That's simply an undeniable fact.
It's not that the Epstein files were a hoax it's that the Democrats have used them as a hoax
 
There are many, many posters here who believe that if you don't adore Trump, you can only be an evil commie leftist. That's the limit of their intellectual depth.

They have to ignore/avoid the fact that there are plenty of people on the right and the middle who believe this is a godamn disaster. That's just dishonest.
There's too many of these TDS (Trump Devotion Syndrome) loons. They live in some alternate reality. I know it, because I used to be one of them. I am so glad I woke up and came to my senses. When you live like that, you'll never be happy, since you spend most of your time defending Trump and making up excuses instead of saying - "I was wrong."

I have the humility to say - I was wrong.
 
Data driven analysis:

Obiden wide open border. 20 million let in. Mexico running busses, train loads to the north. Sending the worst of their country. Prisoners, lunatics, child molesters. All hidden in the surge.

Trump: shuts it down right away. Also gets Mexico to close the Darrian Gap 99% shut off.


Illogical Stain and lying phonies don't have sense to look at results. Plain and simple, night and day results. They are Evil liars or stupid.//
 
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Remember how he ran against these people? Then now he surrounds himself with them. A big betrayal of the people who voted for him.

The swamp is alive still.

It's hard to drain the swamp, when federal judges constantly turn off the pumps and cut the hoses.
 
There's too many of these TDS (Trump Devotion Syndrome) loons. They live in some alternate reality. I know it, because I used to be one of them. I am so glad I woke up and came to my senses. When you live like that, you'll never be happy, since you spend most of your time defending Trump and making up excuses instead of saying - "I was wrong."

I have the humility to say - I was wrong.
Congratulations. I'm sure it wasn't easy. This thing goes deep.
 
Congratulations. I'm sure it wasn't easy. This thing goes deep.
It ended for me the moment he said we are weaklings for questioning him over the Epstein files. It was truly shocking to see him say that. The betrayal cuts deep.
 
There's too many of these TDS (Trump Devotion Syndrome) loons. They live in some alternate reality. I know it, because I used to be one of them. I am so glad I woke up and came to my senses. When you live like that, you'll never be happy, since you spend most of your time defending Trump and making up excuses instead of saying - "I was wrong."

I have the humility to say - I was wrong.
.... and then you woke up. LOL
 
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J. GEILS band: first I look at the purse

Me: first I look at DATA, RESULTs.

STAIN: first I say Trump bad.
 
Link: LEAVING MAGA Support Group

For several years, those of us across the political spectrum -- left, right, center, and around the world -- have wondered what it would take, and what it would look like, when the True Believers would begin to peel away. Now that several popular former MAGA influencers and regular folks are beginning to publicly wake up, I think we're seeing some early trends.

First, one thing I've hoped for has been that just one or two issues would make them question Trump and/or the movement, and that would cause people to start questioning it more and more. That has happened, with the combination of the Epstein coverup and Trump's War. Eyes are being pried open.

Second, the way many Trumpsters are stepping back is NOT by saying, "okay, yeah, he fooled me, I fell for it, I was conned, I screwed up big". Instead, many are blaming others. On the war, they're saying "Well, Bebe talked Trump into it", almost making Trump the victim. I should have seen that one coming.

And third, I've seen some who have escaped are a little surprised that the rest of us are not congratulating them and welcoming them back with open arms. I don't think they yet understand the damage they've caused, both to the country and to families and relationships. I don't think they understand the scope of the pall they have cast on this country. So they'll just have to deal with this on their own, (or with help: LEAVING MAGA Support Group).

So, I guess we'll see. It may continue, it may not. It may accelerate, it may not. As we've known all along, this will be a process, and some will never escape.
I cant see many MAGAs leaving trump

Where are they going to go?
 
I'll catch hell for stating the obvious but...............that is how many Germans felt in the 1930's.
Poor berg. Like so many in the left, they just can’t let go of their Nazi fantasies,
 
It ended for me the moment he said we are weaklings for questioning him over the Epstein files. It was truly shocking to see him say that. The betrayal cuts deep.
I certainly have no idea what he did, if anything. But I have never seen a person go so far out of their way to ACT guilty of something.

It's one of his many character flaws. Any challenge has to be met with an attack. He can't rise above anything. That just doesn't work when you are the President.
 
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