How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief...

[ThisIsMe]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

Some examples of liberals in relation to hollywood:

Guns: liberals will tell you guns are bad, and want to ban them, children will get kicked out of school for pointing their finger like a gun, or making a.sandwhich look like the shape of a gun, but, those same liberals will use guns in their movies, and depict all kinds of violence, murder, death, etc.

If Hollywood had any integrity, they would practice what they preach, no more guns in movies.

Sexualization of women: these women want to be viewed as equals, and want to be respected, and not sexualized and objectified, yet, look at people like gal Godot and scarlet Johansen, who, for their roles, dress up in skin tight leather outfits, and very revealing outfits. These can be very provocative in nature and objectify and sexualize women.

So, Hollywood needs to have integrity. Next avengers movie, scarlet johanses needs to be wearing baggy sweatpants and a knit sweater.

But, they won't, because they want to make that money.....i.e. hypocrisy.

 

[ThisIsMe]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

How about climate change. They tell you we need to ban coal and fossil fuels, but they themselves fly around in private jets, and drive gas guzzling sun's and super high end super cars.

How about people who, when they got their start, they were as vile as anyone, then when they got big, they became "woke". Then they want to look into other peoples pasts and condemn them for it. Look at Jimmy Kimmel. He is one of those ultra liberal, tell you how bad we are,.kind of people. Take a look at his past...anyone remember "The Man Show"? Oh yeah, there's your woke Jimmy kimmel...juggies? His skit on ending the suffrage of women?

These people love to tell everyone how bad they are, but they seem to be exempt from living by their own rules.

Hell, look at these forums. Many times I've seen lefties use derogatory words and phrases to describe people, especially women, and when you call them on it, they either deflect, or ignore you.

 

[Lesh]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

The GOP won't win again. Dems have figured out how to expedite fraudulent elections without being held to account. If the gop wants to win, they'll do the same thing.

Nonsense. Right wing Republicans can’t win elections so they claim fraud

You just don’t have the votes. There just aren’t enough angry old white men to get it done so you have one option. Keep the opponent from voting... any way you can

 

[Lastamender]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

The GOP won't win again. Dems have figured out how to expedite fraudulent elections without being held to account. If the gop wants to win, they'll do the same thing.

Nonsense. Right wing Republicans can’t win elections so they claim fraud

You just don’t have the votes. There just aren’t enough angry old white men to get it done so you have one option. Keep the opponent from voting... any way you can

DePerno told us that the report shows “internet and adjudication files were wiped clean on Nov. 4th,” adding “They destroyed election results!—They destroyed election results in a violation of state law.” He told us, “They were required to keep these records for two years after the election, and they deleted them!”

They claim fraud because things like that happened in MI. No one has been held accountable for breaking that law. An admission of guilt.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Hell, look at these forums. Many times I've seen lefties use derogatory words and phrases to describe people, especially women, and when you call them on it, they either deflect, or ignore you.

Probably because they meant and took it as satire, you as crude hypocrisy.

 

[Dadoalex]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

Sorry, don't see today's GOP as winning again EVER.

The thesis of the piece is that you can win by making the other guys the "enemy." But look at what the GOP has done to itself.
Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

The GOP spent 60 years building this "Coalition of the Dumb."
The GOP coalition has nothing politically in common. Guns and abortions? Abortions and Immigrants? Immigrants and anti-vax? Single issue voters whose only shared trait is hate. They have no policies. They don't know how to govern. But when it comes to hate? Man they got that down right.

For the GOP to win again:
Make the GOP a private organization
Kill all the primaries
Reform the membership. Entrance exams and entrance fees. You don't become Republican by registering Republican.
Return the GOP to its roots. The Economy. Get rid of the silo issues as a party. Individuals can support or oppose whatever social issue they want but the party sticks to economics.

It'll be a slow long walk with the party reduced to 1/3 or less of elected officials.

BUT, there are lots of Democrats and Independents who would vote for a Republican platform if they knew the candidate wasn't some nutjob.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

A well timed shot in the foot for sure. But it's all tied to Trump so can easily be dismissed as some rare case of temporary insanity,.. given they soon shove him under their bus good and proper. Odds are the Dems will horribly screw something up soon as well.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Hell, look at these forums. Many times I've seen lefties use derogatory words and phrases to describe people, especially women, and when you call them on it, they either deflect, or ignore you.

Probably because they meant and took it as satire, you as crude hypocrisy.

No, that wasn't it, they weren't even aware they were doing it until I brought it up


However, according to your excuse, are you saying its ok to use demeaning and derogatory words toward women, as long as its done in satire?

 

[Dadoalex]

Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

A well timed shot in the foot for sure. But it's all tied to Trump so can easily be dismissed as some rare case of temporary insanity,.. given they soon shove him under their bus good and proper. Odds are the Dems will horribly screw something up soon as well.

AS I peer 2 years into the future the biggest threat I see to the Dems is a reassertion of variations of COVID. Biden and the Democrats would certainly, and deservedly, take the hit for major economic damage wrought by more slowdowns.

If spring break doesn't push numbers too far and they keep on pace with the vaccines I see that as less likely.

Economic breakdown? Don't see it in the short term. Maybe by 2024 but not 22.

Immigration? Certainly a wiggler but, be honest, has your life REALLY been impacted in any way by the "Crisis at the Border?" Unless there's a big COVID outbreak traced to the immigrants this is one of those short term talking points that burns itself out in a few weeks when Republicans find another whining point.

OH, if HR-1 passes and makes it through the courts all bets are off.

In that case the current GOP will be reduced 30 Senate and 140 House seats within 10 years.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Hell, look at these forums. Many times I've seen lefties use derogatory words and phrases to describe people, especially women, and when you call them on it, they either deflect, or ignore you.

Probably because they meant and took it as satire, you as crude hypocrisy.

No, that wasn't it, they weren't even aware they were doing it until I brought it up


However, according to your excuse, are you saying its ok to use demeaning and derogatory words toward women, as long as its done in satire?

Yes, when done well. No, when done poorly. Nothing should be off limits in comedy. Crying is too often all we've got without laughter, and laughing at ourselves first and foremost seems required to maintain sanity.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

A well timed shot in the foot for sure. But it's all tied to Trump so can easily be dismissed as some rare case of temporary insanity,.. given they soon shove him under their bus good and proper. Odds are the Dems will horribly screw something up soon as well.

AS I peer 2 years into the future the biggest threat I see to the Dems is a reassertion of variations of COVID. Biden and the Democrats would certainly, and deservedly, take the hit for major economic damage wrought by more slowdowns.

If spring break doesn't push numbers too far and they keep on pace with the vaccines I see that as less likely.

Economic breakdown? Don't see it in the short term. Maybe by 2024 but not 22.

Immigration? Certainly a wiggler but, be honest, has your life REALLY been impacted in any way by the "Crisis at the Border?" Unless there's a big COVID outbreak traced to the immigrants this is one of those short term talking points that burns itself out in a few weeks when Republicans find another whining point.

OH, if HR-1 passes and makes it through the courts all bets are off.

In that case the current GOP will be reduced 30 Senate and 140 House seats within 10 years.

That's possible. I don't see SR-1 passing the Senate anytime soon, but it sure would be nice. I just don't feel very optimistic right now. We haven't really done anything yet about "the problem" of giving everything left (if there is anything left?) to the billionaires. Seems we can only print so much for so long before the farce collapses of its own weight.

 

[Jets]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

Sorry, don't see today's GOP as winning again EVER.

The thesis of the piece is that you can win by making the other guys the "enemy." But look at what the GOP has done to itself.
Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

The GOP spent 60 years building this "Coalition of the Dumb."
The GOP coalition has nothing politically in common. Guns and abortions? Abortions and Immigrants? Immigrants and anti-vax? Single issue voters whose only shared trait is hate. They have no policies. They don't know how to govern. But when it comes to hate? Man they got that down right.

For the GOP to win again:
Make the GOP a private organization
Kill all the primaries
Reform the membership. Entrance exams and entrance fees. You don't become Republican by registering Republican.
Return the GOP to its roots. The Economy. Get rid of the silo issues as a party. Individuals can support or oppose whatever social issue they want but the party sticks to economics.

It'll be a slow long walk with the party reduced to 1/3 or less of elected officials.

BUT, there are lots of Democrats and Independents who would vote for a Republican platform if they knew the candidate wasn't some nutjob.

The problem is that it is still a duopoly. Voters tend to be shortsighted and capricious. The GOP will look like a viable alternative if too many voters turn against the Democratic Party. In addition, the GOP controls more state legislatures than the DP does. If we add to that the Presidents party tends to lose seats during the midterms, there is a reasonable chance the republican party could be voted back into power.

 

[Dadoalex]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

Sorry, don't see today's GOP as winning again EVER.

The thesis of the piece is that you can win by making the other guys the "enemy." But look at what the GOP has done to itself.
Most of the country believes the GOP responsible for 1/6. They've made themselves the enemy of democracy itself.
Within the party anyone not a Trumpinista is the "enemy." They've made themselves enemies of themselves.

The GOP spent 60 years building this "Coalition of the Dumb."
The GOP coalition has nothing politically in common. Guns and abortions? Abortions and Immigrants? Immigrants and anti-vax? Single issue voters whose only shared trait is hate. They have no policies. They don't know how to govern. But when it comes to hate? Man they got that down right.

For the GOP to win again:
Make the GOP a private organization
Kill all the primaries
Reform the membership. Entrance exams and entrance fees. You don't become Republican by registering Republican.
Return the GOP to its roots. The Economy. Get rid of the silo issues as a party. Individuals can support or oppose whatever social issue they want but the party sticks to economics.

It'll be a slow long walk with the party reduced to 1/3 or less of elected officials.

BUT, there are lots of Democrats and Independents who would vote for a Republican platform if they knew the candidate wasn't some nutjob.

The problem is that it is still a duopoly. Voters tend to be shortsighted and capricious. The GOP will look like a viable alternative if too many voters turn against the Democratic Party. In addition, the GOP controls more state legislatures than the DP does. If we add to that the Presidents party tends to lose seats during the midterms, there is a reasonable chance the republican party could be voted back into power.

That's a different problem.
I did acknowledge the threat to the Dems in 2022 but, as of right now, I see that threat as not likely or less than likely.
The Dems will have Trump to run against. Nearly every Rep holding federal office today is a Trump Rep and pinning 1/6 plus the pandemic on them will be easy.
Again, presumes the current arc in controlling the pandemic continues DESPITE Republican opposition.

Funny thing here. As Reps fight to spread as much pandemic as possible they're accomplishing two things. Killing their own voters, and, achieving herd immunity by reducing the number of people needing the vaccine.

 

[BULLDOG]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

No hate bubble. You want an example of what specifically? Most Hollywood types are liberal, they believe in and practice liberal policy. What examples are you looking for.

For the record, Republicans have common decency as well, the difference is how they believe society should be.

For example, liberals believe that if you have money, they should be able to take it from you, and give it to someone else. How is that "decent"? Sure, for the person receiving that money, its great, for the person who had to earn that money, or make sacrifices and take risks to make that money, not so great.

Its noble that you on the left want to help the poor, I think we should all do that, but nobody should be forced into helping the poor. Oddly, all those liberals who talk about how we need to help the poor...you don't see them reaching into their own pockets, you see them trying to make government take it from someone else.

Honestly, there is no difference between the left and the right, other than the path to solving issues. Left wing media will make you believe that all right wingers are thes monstrous hate filled, evil people who want to do harm to everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its just spin and lies from those left wing talking heads. Both sides have compassion, both sides have common decency.

The right says "just leave us alone and do what the constitution says", the left says "do what we want or were going to punish you with our cancel culture, or our labels that we will put on you to make you look bad and try to silence you."

The left is capable of, and frequently does display and enact as much or more hate than the right. For a group that claims to be about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, you only desire those things if it fits in your bubble, anyone else needs to be ostracized from society and shut out.

Your desire to force others to your way of thinking is, probably, the ultimate show of hate.

Serious question. I've heard so much about the so called cancel culture, but I'm still not sure what it is supposed to be. If I dislike what a public figure says, and I mention that, am I part of the cancel culture? What about not buying a product I don't want? Is that CC? It honestly looks like you found a new phrase to describe those that don't agree with you. Please explain what you mean by the term, and please be specific.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

No hate bubble. You want an example of what specifically? Most Hollywood types are liberal, they believe in and practice liberal policy. What examples are you looking for.

For the record, Republicans have common decency as well, the difference is how they believe society should be.

For example, liberals believe that if you have money, they should be able to take it from you, and give it to someone else. How is that "decent"? Sure, for the person receiving that money, its great, for the person who had to earn that money, or make sacrifices and take risks to make that money, not so great.

Its noble that you on the left want to help the poor, I think we should all do that, but nobody should be forced into helping the poor. Oddly, all those liberals who talk about how we need to help the poor...you don't see them reaching into their own pockets, you see them trying to make government take it from someone else.

Honestly, there is no difference between the left and the right, other than the path to solving issues. Left wing media will make you believe that all right wingers are thes monstrous hate filled, evil people who want to do harm to everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its just spin and lies from those left wing talking heads. Both sides have compassion, both sides have common decency.

The right says "just leave us alone and do what the constitution says", the left says "do what we want or were going to punish you with our cancel culture, or our labels that we will put on you to make you look bad and try to silence you."

The left is capable of, and frequently does display and enact as much or more hate than the right. For a group that claims to be about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, you only desire those things if it fits in your bubble, anyone else needs to be ostracized from society and shut out.

Your desire to force others to your way of thinking is, probably, the ultimate show of hate.

Serious question. I've heard so much about the so called cancel culture, but I'm still not sure what it is supposed to be. If I dislike what a public figure says, and I mention that, am I part of the cancel culture? What about not buying a product I don't want? Is that CC? It honestly looks like you found a new phrase to describe those that don't agree with you. Please explain what you mean by the term, and please be specific.

It simply means while Hop on Pop is vulgar, Cardi B is a literal genius. And a model for young girls everywhere.

It is just being a blind hypocrite and a GD stupid idiot.

I make these things so simple even a blind hypocrite like you should understand there Bertha.

 

[BULLDOG]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

No hate bubble. You want an example of what specifically? Most Hollywood types are liberal, they believe in and practice liberal policy. What examples are you looking for.

For the record, Republicans have common decency as well, the difference is how they believe society should be.

For example, liberals believe that if you have money, they should be able to take it from you, and give it to someone else. How is that "decent"? Sure, for the person receiving that money, its great, for the person who had to earn that money, or make sacrifices and take risks to make that money, not so great.

Its noble that you on the left want to help the poor, I think we should all do that, but nobody should be forced into helping the poor. Oddly, all those liberals who talk about how we need to help the poor...you don't see them reaching into their own pockets, you see them trying to make government take it from someone else.

Honestly, there is no difference between the left and the right, other than the path to solving issues. Left wing media will make you believe that all right wingers are thes monstrous hate filled, evil people who want to do harm to everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its just spin and lies from those left wing talking heads. Both sides have compassion, both sides have common decency.

The right says "just leave us alone and do what the constitution says", the left says "do what we want or were going to punish you with our cancel culture, or our labels that we will put on you to make you look bad and try to silence you."

The left is capable of, and frequently does display and enact as much or more hate than the right. For a group that claims to be about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, you only desire those things if it fits in your bubble, anyone else needs to be ostracized from society and shut out.

Your desire to force others to your way of thinking is, probably, the ultimate show of hate.

Serious question. I've heard so much about the so called cancel culture, but I'm still not sure what it is supposed to be. If I dislike what a public figure says, and I mention that, am I part of the cancel culture? What about not buying a product I don't want? Is that CC? It honestly looks like you found a new phrase to describe those that don't agree with you. Please explain what you mean by the term, and please be specific.

It simply means while Hop on Pop is vulgar, Cardi B is a literal genius. And a model for young girls everywhere.

It is just being a blind hypocrite and a GD stupid idiot.

I make these things so simple even a blind hypocrite like you should understand there Bertha.

Not really an answer to the question, but I'll try to make some sense of your silliness. Are you saying it has something to do with taste in music? I don't care for Cardi B, and have no idea who or what Hop on Pop is. Am I part of the cancel culture?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

No hate bubble. You want an example of what specifically? Most Hollywood types are liberal, they believe in and practice liberal policy. What examples are you looking for.

For the record, Republicans have common decency as well, the difference is how they believe society should be.

For example, liberals believe that if you have money, they should be able to take it from you, and give it to someone else. How is that "decent"? Sure, for the person receiving that money, its great, for the person who had to earn that money, or make sacrifices and take risks to make that money, not so great.

Its noble that you on the left want to help the poor, I think we should all do that, but nobody should be forced into helping the poor. Oddly, all those liberals who talk about how we need to help the poor...you don't see them reaching into their own pockets, you see them trying to make government take it from someone else.

Honestly, there is no difference between the left and the right, other than the path to solving issues. Left wing media will make you believe that all right wingers are thes monstrous hate filled, evil people who want to do harm to everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its just spin and lies from those left wing talking heads. Both sides have compassion, both sides have common decency.

The right says "just leave us alone and do what the constitution says", the left says "do what we want or were going to punish you with our cancel culture, or our labels that we will put on you to make you look bad and try to silence you."

The left is capable of, and frequently does display and enact as much or more hate than the right. For a group that claims to be about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, you only desire those things if it fits in your bubble, anyone else needs to be ostracized from society and shut out.

Your desire to force others to your way of thinking is, probably, the ultimate show of hate.

Serious question. I've heard so much about the so called cancel culture, but I'm still not sure what it is supposed to be. If I dislike what a public figure says, and I mention that, am I part of the cancel culture? What about not buying a product I don't want? Is that CC? It honestly looks like you found a new phrase to describe those that don't agree with you. Please explain what you mean by the term, and please be specific.

It simply means while Hop on Pop is vulgar, Cardi B is a literal genius. And a model for young girls everywhere.

It is just being a blind hypocrite and a GD stupid idiot.

I make these things so simple even a blind hypocrite like you should understand there Bertha.

Not really an answer to the question, but I'll try to make some sense of your silliness. Are you saying it has something to do with taste in music? I don't care for Cardi B, and have no idea who or what Hop on Pop is. Am I part of the cancel culture?

If you can't make sense of what I said than you're dumber than I thought you were. I'm not going down to 3rd grade level to explain it. Now pick up that pile of rubble on AF1 and fucking govern.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief...

I think this is par for course across both major parties these days. It seems few people root for America anymore, but rather for "their team."

 

[BULLDOG]

In 1952, the political mainstream was inflamed by the boorishness and recklessness of another conservative demagogue: Wisconsin’s Sen. Joseph McCarthy, then at the height of his infamous communist “witch hunt” within the federal government. McCarthy would eventually overreach to the extent that he was overwhelmingly censured by the Senate, including roughly half of its members from his own party.

One prominent conservative willing to defend McCarthy, much to the chagrin of nearly everybody to the left of the John Birch Society, was Irving Kristol. The godfather of neoconservatism wrote contemporaneously in Commentary that “there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy: He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing.”

To Kristol, the certainty McCarthy signaled was worth commending, despite his argument’s lack of substance or his corrosive rhetorical style. McCarthy was a staunch anti-communist, but that was almost secondary to how thoroughly he infuriated his opponents, leaving no question as to where he stood. And given the incentives presented by social media toward ever more extreme political positions, it’s no wonder such stark, if reductive, contrasts are even more appealing today, to the extent that a spiritual heir of McCarthy’s could even win the White House.

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief

The weird journey of a tongue-in-cheek catchphrase from conservative-mocking putdown to the defining tenet of the Republican Party’s way of life.

www.politico.com

Interesting take on how someone like Donald Trump could win the Presidency. The politics of division have been going on for years.

Why run a platform when painting the opposition as the enemy has become an effective tool for winning elections. In a corporate duopoly there are only two options.

The GOP is going to win again. Its a “when” not an “if”

McCarthy was wise and smart enough to see what 2021 would like. Executing Hollywood commies should have been a priority

Hollywood is the last place on earth you will find communism. The town is a tribute to capitalism and is one of the most conservative things in modern life. You are confusing communism with a few artistic people showing concern for the plight of the planet and its citizens.

Because you are damaged goods you just label it "communism" when in fact it is just normal behaviour. Its another sign that the world has moved on and left you and your arse scratching mates behind in the C20th. Get some help.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of Hollywood. A place where nearly everyone espouses anti capitalistic and liberal views, yet all of them became rich off of a capitalistic system, and made their money portraying things they hate, and will tell you are wrong.

There you go again. Liberal views are just common decency. Held by most people across the world who dont live in your narrow partisan hate bubble.

Give me an example of these liberal views in relation to Hollywood.

No hate bubble. You want an example of what specifically? Most Hollywood types are liberal, they believe in and practice liberal policy. What examples are you looking for.

For the record, Republicans have common decency as well, the difference is how they believe society should be.

For example, liberals believe that if you have money, they should be able to take it from you, and give it to someone else. How is that "decent"? Sure, for the person receiving that money, its great, for the person who had to earn that money, or make sacrifices and take risks to make that money, not so great.

Its noble that you on the left want to help the poor, I think we should all do that, but nobody should be forced into helping the poor. Oddly, all those liberals who talk about how we need to help the poor...you don't see them reaching into their own pockets, you see them trying to make government take it from someone else.

Honestly, there is no difference between the left and the right, other than the path to solving issues. Left wing media will make you believe that all right wingers are thes monstrous hate filled, evil people who want to do harm to everyone else. Nothing could be further from the truth. Its just spin and lies from those left wing talking heads. Both sides have compassion, both sides have common decency.

The right says "just leave us alone and do what the constitution says", the left says "do what we want or were going to punish you with our cancel culture, or our labels that we will put on you to make you look bad and try to silence you."

The left is capable of, and frequently does display and enact as much or more hate than the right. For a group that claims to be about diversity, inclusion, tolerance, you only desire those things if it fits in your bubble, anyone else needs to be ostracized from society and shut out.

Your desire to force others to your way of thinking is, probably, the ultimate show of hate.

Serious question. I've heard so much about the so called cancel culture, but I'm still not sure what it is supposed to be. If I dislike what a public figure says, and I mention that, am I part of the cancel culture? What about not buying a product I don't want? Is that CC? It honestly looks like you found a new phrase to describe those that don't agree with you. Please explain what you mean by the term, and please be specific.

It simply means while Hop on Pop is vulgar, Cardi B is a literal genius. And a model for young girls everywhere.

It is just being a blind hypocrite and a GD stupid idiot.

I make these things so simple even a blind hypocrite like you should understand there Bertha.

Not really an answer to the question, but I'll try to make some sense of your silliness. Are you saying it has something to do with taste in music? I don't care for Cardi B, and have no idea who or what Hop on Pop is. Am I part of the cancel culture?

If you can't make sense of what I said than you're dumber than I thought you were. I'm not going down to 3rd grade level to explain it. Now pick up that pile of rubble on AF1 and fucking govern.

And you gave the type answer that is so common for crazy right wingers. I should have known better than to hope for more.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

How ‘Owning the Libs’ Became the GOP’s Core Belief...

I think this is par for course across both major parties these days. It seems few people root for America anymore, but rather for "their team."

What team is letting every third world Covid and disease ridden critter run in here and caging them like a prized voter? God almighty that is so GD anti American.