The Vindication of Joseph McCarthy

[Soupnazi630]

never has there been nor will there ever be a communist country. The only way turds like shit soup can make it so is if they define what communism is themselves. , problem is it already has a definition and that definition says shit soup definition is bullshit.
Has there ever been a comunist nation like Marx envisioned
The answer is no, because in a communist state (as described by Marx), there are no markets, especially, markets for production factors. And in none of the countries that implemented a socialistic socio-economic system, was labor "directly socialized" -it continued to be considered as owned by each worker individually, and it was priced, bought and sold. And it doesn't matter how this was done, i.e. of whether the wages were determined through some market mechanism or decreed by the state. All it matters is that labor was still private property.

--Alecos Papadopoulos
WE will now tell shit soup who Aleco Papadopuloulos is ,Between 1989 and 2004 he was a Member of the Hellenic Parliament for Thesprotia representing the Panhellenic Socialist Movement (PASOK). In 1994 Papadopoulos assumed as Minister of Economics

Wrong shit for brains

Maerex himself defined communism as a means to an end it is the belief in such a fantasty world which IS communism

A communist nation is a nation which prctices the marxist ideology which they do.

That is what marx defined as communism not your ignorant spin

You really are easily owned

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The KKK survived under the Constitution. Like it or not, meeting your friends with similar interests is legal.

Yes, that applies to your enemies as well. Private association is protected. You can meet your fascists, fellow MAGA, etc.

 

[Failzero]

Yes, that applies to your enemies as well. Private association is protected. You can meet your fascists, fellow MAGA, etc.

And the Rabid Pro Arab Jooooo Haters

 

[d0gbreath]

McCarthy was right!

All of those people that he blacklisted as communists in Hollywood didn't infiltrate the federal government, so I guess you have a point.

Removed from the Senate, by the Senators, for behavior unbecoming a US Senator.

 

[Failzero]

All of those people that he blacklisted as communists in Hollywood didn't infiltrate the federal government, so I guess you have a point.

Removed from the Senate, by the Senators, for behavior unbecoming a US Senator.

Yet Ted Kennedy stuck around

 

[d0gbreath]

Yet Ted Kennedy stuck around

Severely off topic.

 

[Failzero]

Severely off topic.

US Senator Mishegoss thread so on topic

 

[22lcidw]

Severely off topic.

McCarthy delayed what happened to us.

 

[jbander]

Wrong shit for brains

Maerex himself defined communism as a means to an end it is the belief in such a fantasty world which IS communism

A communist nation is a nation which prctices the marxist ideology which they do.

That is what marx defined as communism not your ignorant spin

You really are easily owned

what the hell is Maerex

 

[d0gbreath]

McCarthy delayed what happened to us.

Too bad he couldn't delay what happened to him.

 

[jbrownson0831]

did wh

ittaker chambers or the rosenbergs tell the soviets more than trump told putin? i don't know either, but you want to give him another chance?

K...o...o...k
Trump told Putin nothing looneybin, Obammy did all the telling.

 

[Soupnazi630]

All of those people that he blacklisted as communists in Hollywood didn't infiltrate the federal government, so I guess you have a point.

Removed from the Senate, by the Senators, for behavior unbecoming a US Senator.

Wrong

You should learn some details and facts before commenting.

He never blacklisted anyone in Hollywood. The Hollywood blacklists were going on seperate from him.

The senate censured him they did not remove him

 

[lennypartiv]

All of those people that he blacklisted as communists in Hollywood didn't infiltrate the federal government, so I guess you have a point.

Removed from the Senate, by the Senators, for behavior unbecoming a US Senator.

If they're anti-American, blacklisting them is the right thing to do, correct?

 

[Mac1958]

If they're anti-American, blacklisting them is the right thing to do, correct?

Many might believe that you're anti-American for blindly following a con man who has said he wanted to suspend the Constitution.

So you should be blacklisted? Who is in charge of that decision, exactly?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

If they're anti-American, blacklisting them is the right thing to do, correct?

And that is why the GOP senators led the effort successfully to censure McCarthy and cast shame on him.

 

[SeaMajor7]

And that is why the GOP senators led the effort successfully to censure McCarthy and cast shame on him.

During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.

From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism.

https://www.unz.com/article/the-reality-of-red-subversion/

 

[SeaMajor7]

From1984....

Interviewer: The Soviets use the phase, “ideological subversion”. What do they mean by that?


Bezmenov: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate overt and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all the American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see. There’s no mystery. There’s nothing to do with espionage. I know espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic, it sells more deodorants through their advertising, probably. That’s why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all! According to my opinion, and the opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, (2 Russian words, активные something, I couldn’t catch it) in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is, to change the perception of reality of every American to such as extent that in spite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.

It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which is required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of your enemy. In other words, Marxism / Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already, for the last 25 years, actually it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is being done by Americans to Americans thanks to a lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter any more. A person who is demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he’s going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When a military boot crushes his balls, then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

The next stage is destabilization. This time, the subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption, whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn’t matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials, the economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see quite clearly that in some areas in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist / Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

The next stage of course is crisis. It may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country up to the verge of crisis. You can see them in Central America now.

And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have a period of so called normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ’68, Comrade Brezhnev said, “Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized!” This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these smucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and a paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a Big Brother government in Washington D.C. With benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not.
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And, here we are today with generations of people being dumbed down and oblivious to the SICKNESS of the demented LEFT.

 

[Soupnazi630]

And that is why the GOP senators led the effort successfully to censure McCarthy and cast shame on him.

No it is not

He had nothing to do with the black lists

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The Venona documents do not excuse McCarthy's anti-Americanism.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The Venona documents do not excuse McCarthy's anti-Americanism.

He was not anti american and they do in fact prove mosy of his accusations correct,.

It is not anti american to expose spies betyraying the nation