CDZ How do we prevent sociopaths from gaining power?

[there4eyeM]

Putin is another profound example of the tragedy that occurs when an inhuman personality rises to power. The history of our race is one of similar catastrophic individuals. We have the means to identify such disorders. We have the interest to exclude them from gaining control. This is not a matter of ideology, religion, race, ethnicity or gender (though, obviously, men preponderate in the historical records). The sub-category of our fellow humans that lack the capacity to feel empathy must be controlled; that is the proposition.

 

[fncceo]

The sub-category of our fellow humans that lack the capacity to feel empathy must be controlled

What is the empirical metric for empathy? How is it measured? With what instruments?

If you come across someone whom you feel doesn't have enough empathy, or doesn't empathize in the way you prefer they do, how precisely do you "control" them?

The fact is, all you know about this man, or any other man in the public eye, is precisely what you've been told by others.

 

[there4eyeM]

What is the empirical metric for empathy? How is it measured? With what instruments?

If you come across someone whom you feel doesn't have enough empathy, or doesn't empathize in the way you prefer they do, how precisely do you "control" them?

The fact is, all you know about this man, or any other man in the public eye, is precisely what you've been told by others.

Comments well taken, but "empathy" is part of what is lacking in clinically diagnosed sociopathy. It was not meant as a criterium in itself. You are absolutely correct that such is too subjective. The problem remains, however, that the wrong people have gained the wrong positions through a failed selection system.

 

[fncceo]

Comments well taken, but "empathy" is part of what is lacking in clinically diagnosed sociopathy. It was not meant as a criterium in itself. You are absolutely correct that such is too subjective. The problem remains, however, that the wrong people have gained the wrong positions through a failed selection system.

Lack of empathy or, more specifically, lack of empathy for the things someone else feels important, is no indicator of how successful or failed a leader, or anyone else, may be.

Take for example, Alexandria Cortez, Congressperson from New York. According to the press, she literally oozes empathy from every pore. She will cry at the drop of a hat, as long as the cameras are around, for whatever cause seems to be politically advantageous.

However, there is very little indication she would be an effective or successful leader. Many people believe just the opposite.

 

[fncceo]

Nancy Pelosi empathizes for the cameras ...

 

[konradv]

Lack of empathy or, more specifically, lack of empathy for the things someone else feels important, is no indicator of how successful or failed a leader, or anyone else, may be.

Take for example, Alexandria Cortez, Congressperson from New York. According to the press, she literally oozes empathy from every pore. She will cry at the drop of a hat, as long as the cameras are around, for whatever cause seems to be politically advantageous.

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However, there is very little indication she would be an effective or successful leader. Many people believe just the opposite.

How would you know this about AOC, if the cameras weren’t around? Are you a psychic now?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

What is the empirical metric for empathy? How is it measured? With what instruments?

If you come across someone whom you feel doesn't have enough empathy, or doesn't empathize in the way you prefer they do, how precisely do you "control" them?

The fact is, all you know about this man, or any other man in the public eye, is precisely what you've been told by others.

Or what you have seen firsthand…

Still, I get your point and there is no true way to judge and even attempting it will be weaponized to control those that are undesirable while promoting what one segment of society want…

 

[miketx]

Lack of empathy or, more specifically, lack of empathy for the things someone else feels important, is no indicator of how successful or failed a leader, or anyone else, may be.

Take for example, Alexandria Cortez, Congressperson from New York. According to the press, she literally oozes empathy from every pore. She will cry at the drop of a hat, as long as the cameras are around, for whatever cause seems to be politically advantageous.

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However, there is very little indication she would be an effective or successful leader. Many people believe just the opposite.

 

[fncceo]

Or what you have seen firsthand…

Still, I get your point and there is no true way to judge and even attempting it will be weaponized to control those that are undesirable while promoting what one segment of society want…

Hundreds of so-called "mental health professionals" ran forward to declare than on the basis of what they've read in the papers, President Trump had every type of mental diagnosis known to science.

Mental health is arguably the least understood, and certainly the least professionally practiced of all medical sciences.

 

[miketx]

Nancy Pelosi empathizes for the cameras ...

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[fncceo]

How would you know this about AOC, if the cameras weren’t around? Are you a psychic now?

I believe you're making my point for me.

We know AOC is packed to her gills with empathy for all living creatures because the media have told us so.

 

[miketx]

How would you know this about AOC, if the cameras weren’t around? Are you a psychic now?

Because all democrats are lying scum, and the "D" after their name stands for disney. You know, pedophiles.

 

[Colin norris]

What is the empirical metric for empathy? How is it measured? With what instruments?

If you come across someone whom you feel doesn't have enough empathy, or doesn't empathize in the way you prefer they do, how precisely do you "control" them?

The fact is, all you know about this man, or any other man in the public eye, is precisely what you've been told by others.

I've been around long enough to recognise a psychopathic nut case in about 20 minutes. They display invariable characteristics continually.
Delusions of grandeur. They think they are chick magnets in the case of men.
Sadly, like putin and Trump, they have a tendency to rise above the rest by smashing their way to the top. But equally as sad, they ultimately crash and burn.
Mussolini, Hitler, Trump and then putin.

 

[fncceo]

I've been around long enough to recognise a psychopathic nut case in about 20 minutes.

 

[there4eyeM]

Empathy was never proposed as a means of judging. It is merely an aspect of evaluating the sociopath mentality. There is no need to get entangled in that word and it is not the question. We have the means of identifying sociopaths and psychopaths and it is necessary to exclude them from power. It is a group to be recognized and regulated.

 

[fncceo]

Empathy was never proposed as a means of judging

The sub-category of our fellow humans that lack the capacity to feel empathy must be controlled; that is the proposition.

You might want to back and re-read your own OP.

 

[fncceo]

It is a group to be recognized and regulated.

How, precisely, do you intend to "regulate" them? As long as they are citizens, they have the right to run for public office. Do you intend to strip them of their citizenship?

Where is the due process?

Is it your plan to criminalize mental health diagnoses?

 

[there4eyeM]

How do we prevent sociopaths from gaining power?​

That is and was the question.

 

[there4eyeM]

How, precisely, do you intend to "regulate" them? As long as they are citizens, they have the right to run for public office. Do you intend to strip them of their citizenship?

Where is the due process?

Is it your plan to criminalize mental health diagnoses?

Are known pedophiles freely allowed to go about their 'business'? We currently identify and control mentally dangerous people.

 

[fncceo]

Are known pedophiles freely allowed to go about their 'business'?

Before a pedophile can be put on a registry or lose their rights, they must be convicted of a sex-related offense.

That is the due process which separates our system from fascism.