How do we get out of this?

[gipper]

A valid point. A bit higher level than what I was going for, but yes, that too.

Lol. Two dumb fvcks talking to each other.

 

[Correll]

Heil Hitler!

No American should ever criticize a president who goes to war. Right?

Do you always knee down to authority like a lil’ PUZZY?

Have you learned nothing these past few decades?

Rhetorical!

Nothing I said could be considered an attack on the concept of criticism.

I asked what the implications of this specific criticism is.

The discussion has moved on to, that.

You are welcome to comment.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I asked a question, no one is answering.

This is important.


The world is attacking TRUMP for IRAN'S actions.


Does anyone else see the implications of this?

It's a great point. The way I see it, the globalists who are now running the world are pissed off that a nationalist is stepping on their toes and defying them. America has to ask itself "Do I want to be a pawn in the globalist agenda, or do I want national sovereignty for the country I live in?" Our greatest national problem is that the dumocraps sided with the globalists to get their money in order to gain power. Now we have a political party that is doing everything for the benefit of the globalists and have been for some time, perhaps since the mid 90's. All of America's problems stem from putting globalist interests first.

 

[Mac1958]

20 hours ago — Several U.S. allies said on Monday they had no immediate plans to send ships to unblock the Strait of Hormuz, rebuffing a request by Trump.

I'm guessing he'll bully a few to help out in some way.

Why in the world should anyone trust him unless they're forced into it? Our former friends know he'll throw them under the bus at any moment.

And worse, would they be expected to be under the "leadership" of the retarded drunk part time TV host war criminal Hegseth? They know better.

Trump will have to really threaten them.

 

[Mac1958]

And by the way, why hasn't Trump's awesome and vaunted "Bored Board of Peace" stepped in to save the day?

 

[Correll]

I'm guessing he'll bully a few to help out in some way.

Why in the world should anyone trust him unless they're forced into it? Our former friends know he'll throw them under the bus at any moment.

And worse, would they be expected to be under the "leadership" of the retarded drunk part time TV host Hegseth? They know better.

Trump will have to really threaten them.

Would not ALL the "Adults in the room" be FORCED INTO IT, by the very importance of the Straits being open?


If any of these supposed world leaders are serious about the well being of their own nations, let along the WOLRD, then wouldn't that alone FORCE them to work with Trump on keeping the straits open?

To the extent that they DON'T do that, is that not them revealing that they are NOT serious people, who are serious about meeting their responsibilities to EITHER their own people, or the world?


That their hurt feel feels, from when Trump said mean things about them, are more important than the world economy and hte people that get hurt when it is disrupted?

 

[eagle1462010]

And by the way, why hasn't Trump's awesome and vaunted "Bored Board of Peace" stepped in to save the day?

Save the day LOL.

You want him to Save Iran?

 

[gipper]

Nothing I said could be considered an attack on the concept of criticism.

I asked what the implications of this specific criticism is.

The discussion has moved on to, that.

You are welcome to comment.

Implications of criticism??? Apparently you don’t understand the concept of free speech. A fundamental right most Americans support.

If you knew anything about history, you’d know that our government has a long history of silencing free speech during wartime. You may find this acceptable, but real Americans don’t.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Don't change the subject.

Your the one doing that.

Trump is acting like Germany during WWII and his cult doesn't see anything wrong with it.
The current country...........IRAN.

Iran has closed the straits. Who is responsible for IRANIAN ACTIONS?

Answer, Trump.


Why do you think that?

See above.

You and Trump thought Iran would be a pushover, like Iraq.

Is it because the Iranians are a theocracy and you consider religious people to be insane?

Most of them, YES.

 

[justoffal]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Iran is crumbling...
How long will it take? Hard to say.
The real shame is the suffering of the innocent.
But...they are suffering anyway.

 

[Correll]

Save the day LOL.

You want him to Save Iran?

To MAC1958, Trump, as President of the UNited States, is the ALL FATHER to the world.

He is the world's protector and he is responsiblel for EVERYONE in the world, to be taken care of and properly fed and clothed, and cleaned.

 

[Correll]

Implications of criticism??? Apparently you don’t understand the concept of free speech. A fundamental right most Americans support.

If you knew anything about history, you’d know that our government has a long history of silencing free speech during wartime. You may find this acceptable, but real Americans don’t.

Dude. You are spamming nonsense. I was responding to the criticism, not arguing against the concept of criticism.

You are... missing EVERYTHING.

 

[Deadstick]

Since 1979, The Iranian revolutionaries that created the IRGC, have been chanting, "Death to America," and sponsoring terrorists to attack and kill Americans. Intelligence gathering confirmed that the IRGC was literally on the verge of having nukes. British intelligence confirmed the report. So, not long ago the US bombed the known nuclear production facilities. Recently, it was realized that one area was missed and it was decided to end their ambitions once and for all.
Previous presidents have said that Iran "had to go," but lacked the will to do anything. They just bribed the IRGC with billions to stop their production but Iran didn't, they just picked up the pace of their work in the nuclear field and used money to fund terrorist groups. Trump took the right move. End it all.
If you look at some of the videos coming in from Iran, you will see Iranian citizens cheering about the death of the Ayatollah and his regime. Women that normally had to cover themselves, had their headscarves off and cheering. About 10 million of the 90 million people in Iran are pro-IRGC, the remainder hate them and want their nation back.
As to the lack of help regarding the Strait of Hormuz, nations like the UK and France have decided to embrace Islam and bring them in, even though their nation's citizen patriots hate it.
Sadly, even though we will have destroyed the nuke capability in Iran and given its people a chance to be rid of Islamic fundamentalism, Islamic fundamentalism will be taking over the UK and France, who.....have nukes.

Intelligence gathering confirmed that the IRGC was literally on the verge of having nukes. British intelligence confirmed the report.

The IAEA says that is bollocks, they were on the ground in Iran, stop lying, as for MI6 and the CIA they can't be trusted about anything they have been fabricating and lying for decades.

 

[Mac1958]

So Trump said that "nobody expected" Iran to attack other gulf states.

Kind of like "no one knew how complicated health care was".

Holy crap. Historic incompetence. He has surrounded himself with obedient, ignorant idiots. This is EXACTLY how authoritarian regimes fall and take a country with them.

 

[1srelluc]

Looked at the first page.....No viable answers.

Looked at the last page.....No viable answers.

I have determined that this thread is dildos.

 

[Correll]

Your the one doing that.

Most of them, YES.

Oh, good. I was afraid it was because they are brown. But good for you, you are bigoted against religious people, not racist.


So much better...


Anyhow, now that we have established that Trump is the World's All Father,


I demand that the world shows him the RESPECT and DEFERENCE, due to that role.


He has asked for his children to help him in a task. They must fall into line and give, to the limites of their feeble abilities, the contribution they can muster.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Zero cares. Coordinating with them would be difficult at a minimum. Hopefully the Sauds and Kurds back off, too.

Those countries, in that region, should be the one helping Trump.
Why aren't they?
Could it be Trump didn't notify them either?
Or Americans who got stuck over there for days?

 

[Correll]

So Trump said that "nobody expected" Iran to attack other gulf states.

Kind of like "no one knew how complicated health care was".

Holy crap. Historic incompetence. He has surrounded himself with obedient, ignorant idiots. This is EXACTLY how authoritarian regimes fall and take a country with them.

Your lack of respect for the ALL FATHER is... shocking.

Apologize. To everyone reading this. And to Trump. Your Daddy. Who is responsible for you and the Iranians, and everyone in the world.


(in your world view. To be clear, I do not share this world view. to me, he is president of the us, and Iranians, are responsible for their own actions)

 

[Mac1958]

The best thing for that idiot to do now is declare "we won" and get the fulkk up outta there.

The problem is, we've kicked the hornet's nest. Again.

Iran isn't done, and won't just walk away from this. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan. They've been planning for this for decades. These people can cause real damage. And they'll surely try.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Ideas?

Stop encouraging Democrats to believe they can handle international issues