The Duke
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He upset their apple cart.
How do we get out of this?
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Hafar1014
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Its not the world its the left. The left supported Stalin and HItler when they emerged. Nothing has changed. They hate America because we destroy their belief in socialism
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Pretty much that.
But he's also surrounded himself with the Rubios and the Grahams, the Kutchners and the Israel first billionaires, too.
The unregistered foreign lobby agents are working three fold per congress critter as well.
American government is occupied. Has been for some time...
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The Duke
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Is that so?
No, just the region.
Trump was warned about that too.
Trump warned of possible Iran retaliation on Gulf allies ...
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https://www.i24news.tv › ... › International › US / Canada
4 hours ago — US President Donald Trump was warned before launching strikes on Iran that Tehran could retaliate against US allies in the Gulf, despite his public claims that such attacks came as a surprise.
No, for Trump's actions.
Yeah, Trump laid it out years ago.
Trump claims Harris would lead to WWIII, Michelle Obama ...
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Oct 27, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump, during his campaign in Pennsylvania, lashed out at Vice President Harris, claiming that if elected she would “guarantee” the ...Read more
I know, republicans are the biggest rubes on the planet. This is literally the easiest demo to manipulate.
gipper
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Proving a foreign nation with spies and traitors operating within the Trump administration and Congress committed treason.Relevant reading...
Copyright © 2026 The Ron Paul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.
''As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency, and NSA were simply bypassed because, as White House Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said, President Trump “had a feeling” Iran would attack.
The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.
Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.
Congress was completely out of the picture – seemingly uninterested in performing its Constitutional duty – and no case was made to the American people that they must sacrifice and die once again for a war in the Middle East.
Trump’s repeated promises to not start new wars, especially in the Middle East, have turned out to be empty, and Republicans are set for a crippling defeat in the upcoming midterm elections.
Iran had been warning for months – since the last US/Israeli surprise attack in June – that if they were attacked again they would not hold back on US bases in the region and that they would close the Straits of Hormuz. Trump and Netanyahu attacked anyway, and Iran has done what it said it would do.
Now the Strait of Hormuz is closed, oil is about to go out of control, and the global economy – along with the US dollar – seems about to implode.
On March 6th, President Trump refused a UK offer of help, saying we don’t need help when we’ve already won the war. Five days later, at a rally in Kentucky, President Trump repeated that “We’ve won the Iran war!”
It was his “Mission Accomplished” moment, because this weekend, just days after declaring victory against an “obliterated” Iran, Trump began begging other countries to send ships to help the US open the Strait of Hormuz.
Thus far every country has declined, understanding that such a mission has little chance of success.
Tragically, the war thus far has claimed at least 14 servicemembers. It is likely the toll is far worse than they are telling us. Every US military facility in the region is either damaged or destroyed. Billions of dollars of radar and other equipment are destroyed. Our allies in the region, because they allowed their territory to be used to attack Iran, have also seen massive retaliatory destruction.
This is surely one of the worst military disasters in US history. There are no military options available beyond the unthinkable: the use of nuclear weapons.
The only viable option that remains is one that was often urged in the Vietnam War: Just get out. Now! No return to US bases, no security guarantees to Gulf States. End the US empire in the Middle East and elsewhere. If not, it’s only going to get worse.''
Author: Ron Paul
Just Get Out! Now! - The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity
As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff...ronpaulinstitute.org
gipper
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Can’t fix stupid.NOPE!
Iran has a one "party" religious rule, and no legal, allowed opposition party, religious or secular.
The so-called, pseudo "dumocrap machine" here in the USA didn't recently slaughter 30,000+ citizens who are opposed to Trump being POTUS.
In the narrow blinder perspective, the situation in Iran goes back further to WWII when the UK and USA "intervened" in Iran to prevent the USSR taking possession. Remember that until Germany invaded Russia in June 1941 it looked like those two nations were out to grab and carve up Europe and Eurasia between them.
The theocracy aspect in Iran goes back 1400 years with the founding of Islam and then the schism between Sunni and Shia.
There may not be an "easy fix" I'll agree, but that doesn't mean there isn't any fix, especially one that would result in a more democratic and secular government for the nation and People of Iran.
What you refer to as "our dumocraps" have yet to meet a fascist tyranny ruling another nation that they don't like and aren't willing to support, keep in power. That's a separate issue of treason and insurrection within our Nation that will have to be dealt with differently.
I'm not sure that "balkanized" is a solution for Iran, since the differences aren't the sort of ethnical ones in other parts of the world, (open for consideration though) other than maybe the Kurds who could use a homeland of their own carved out. Oh yeah, and then the Baloch of SE Iran,
Kurds in Iran - Wikipedia
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Baloch people in Iran - Wikipedia
Do you realize Trump's actions?
To countries that posed no threat to the US.
Venezuela.
Iran.
Next up Cuba.
The implications are thus.
1. The Iranians are not to be held responsible for their actions.
2. Trump, due to be President of the United States, is responsible for taking care of the Iranians, who are not responsible for their own actions.
This is a world view where whole nations, such as Iran, for some reason or another, are not really PEOPLE, as much as mindless animals or such,
and the President of the United States, is not the world's policeman so much as WORLD.... ALL FATHER.
if this is the case, we need the world to start living up to it's responsiblities in this relationship.
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The Duke
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Don't change the subject.
Iran has closed the straits. Who is responsible for IRANIAN ACTIONS?
Answer, Trump.
Why do you think that? Is it because the Iranians are a theocracy and you consider religious people to be insane?
gipper
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Heil Hitler!
No American should ever criticize a president who goes to war. Right?
Do you always knee down to authority like a lil’ PUZZY?
Have you learned nothing these past few decades?
Rhetorical!
Yep!
Isn't it great?
Can you imagine the massive and rapid improvement in CUBA, when they start trading with the world's largest economy, that is just 90 miles away?
Then you cry, along with your dear leader.Yep!
Isn't it great?
US allies rebuff Trump's request for support in Strait of ...
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20 hours ago — Several U.S. allies said on Monday they had no immediate plans to send ships to unblock the Strait of Hormuz, rebuffing a request by Trump.
A valid point. A bit higher level than what I was going for, but yes, that too.
The Duke
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Zero cares. Coordinating with them would be difficult at a minimum. Hopefully the Sauds and Kurds back off, too.
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