Time to cut funds to Ukraine? Since Europe refuses to help their oil get thru the Strait of Hormuz, let them handle Ukraine.

[Nostra]

Like the man said, if you gotta ask you aint never gonna know

I’m just an average guy and all I can do is tell you how I see it

If you dont see it like that then we will have to disagree

Well, I gotta ask so I guess I'll never know.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We sell to someone we sells to Ukraine. Better than Tater just giving it to them.

Cut them off. It’s Europe’s problem.

But cutting them off, you mean don't sell them armaments at our profit? OK. Good Russobot dream there.

 

[Mac-7]

Well, I gotta ask so I guess I'll never know.

So far, rvery country with nuclear weapons have used for defense whsindt oyher nuclear powers

But they were not as radical as the shia muslims in Iran

They actually want a war where everyone dies and their side goes to Heaven while the rest of us go to Hell

 

[Nostra]

So far, rvery country with nuclear weapons have used for defense whsindt oyher nuclear powers

But they were not as radical as the shia muslims in Iran

They actually want a war where everyone dies and their side goes to Heaven while the rest of us go to Hell

Ok, you explained part of the upside, but you have not articulated the downside.

 

[Mac-7]

Ok, you explained part of the upside, but you have not articulated the downside.

Then by all means tell us what you think it is

 

[Nostra]

Then by all means tell us what you think it is

What want is?

 

[Mac-7]

What want is?

The downside that you think exists

 

[Nostra]

The downside that you think exists

Never said there was a downside, you did.

 

[Mac-7]

Never said there was a downside, you did.

You used the word “downside” not me

 

[Nostra]

You used the word “downside” not me

Never said there was a downside for the US.

Apparently I have convinced you and you no longer think we should be involved in Ukraine.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Like the man said, if you gotta ask you aint never gonna know

I’m just an average guy and all I can do is tell you how I see it

If you dont see it like that then we will have to disagree

PNACkos

But preppy pipsqueak Bush, isolated all his life from the common people, was incapable of going against Isolationism the right way. As in Vietnam, we had no use for, nor sympathy for, the natives.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Never said there was a downside for the US.

Apparently I have convinced you and you no longer think we should be involved in Ukraine.

Wall Street Doesn't Pay Peace Dividends

The patrician parasite Daddy Bush, using his clique in the CIA, started Cold War II even back when he was Vice President. He also initiated Clinton's war on Serbia, a Russian ally.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So far, rvery country with nuclear weapons have used for defense whsindt oyher nuclear powers

But they were not as radical as the shia muslims in Iran

They actually want a war where everyone dies and their side goes to Heaven while the rest of us go to Hell

Towels Headin' for Armageddon

 

[Mac-7]

Never said there was a downside for the US.

Apparently I have convinced you and you no longer think we should be involved in Ukraine.

I think we should be involved in the defense of Ukraine

 

[Mac-7]

Towels Headin' for Armageddon

I’m not predicting Armsgeddon

But we are inching closer

 

[toobfreak]

Apparently I have convinced you and you no longer think we should be involved in Ukraine.

Unless we signed a pact with Ukraine to supply them in perpetuity, I think we've already helped Ukraine enough. With the hundreds of billions just from us, it is their fault they have not yet beaten Russia.

But I understand some NATO countries ARE coming to help us with Iran in a cursory way to help reestablish the flow of oil.

 

[schmidlap]

Ukraine isn't our problem, it's Europe's.

Let them handle it since they refuse to pitch in to get their oil to them.

European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Will this temper your messiah's wimpy indulgence of Vlady?

Putin tells Tehran: Russia stands by Iran​

 

[Dragonlady]

Ukraine isn't our problem, it's Europe's.

Let them handle it since they refuse to pitch in to get their oil to them.

European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Does Putin pay you to post here?

Putin isn’t Europe’s problem and the USA signed an Agreement to protect Ukrainians if they gave up their nuclear weapons.

Yet another example of Donald Trump, abandoning an ally, the United States was sworn to protect.

Why would any of your allies step up to the plate and give Trump another opportunity to screw them over?

Trump has violated every agreement he has ever signed with European nations including the latest round of trade agreements.

Your national reputation is dirt. If you can’t honour the agreement you signed, there is no point in anyone doing anything to assist you.

You’re just another criminal nation like Russia.

 

[Nostra]

I think we should be involved in the defense of Ukraine

That’s fine. I don’t. There is no downside for the US to stop our involvement.

If Ukraine is so important let Europe handle it. I’m tired of getting played by those fuckwads.

 

[Nostra]

Unless we signed a pact with Ukraine to supply them in perpetuity, I think we've already helped Ukraine enough. With the hundreds of billions just from us, it is their fault they have not yet beaten Russia.

But I understand some NATO countries ARE coming to help us with Iran in a cursory way to help reestablish the flow of oil.

Agree 100% with the first part.

They had to be shamed into helping get their own oil, so screw them. I’ve been over the UN forever, and I’m close to being over NATO. We can’t afford to fund protection for the world. It’s time for others to step up, or deal with any consequences on their own.