How do we get out of this?

[22lcidw]

I don't see Trump bullying but ONE country on this map.
After all the $$$, Trump has invested over there.

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Incredibly, 60 years ago all of them were not the friendliest to us and definitely Israel. Iran is the last hold out in a region that is more pro America and tolerant to Israel. Give a chance to build wealth throughout the region with the have not areas getting their cut of it. The major problem is a percentage of Islamic people are in constant violence mode.

 

[kyzr]

It's "failing" because some idiot on MSNOW said so.
Opinion | Trump is failing at the business of war

The straight is now open, so MSNOW is flat wrong.

Also, Trump controls the oil/money flow out of Iran.
So Iran better behave and cooperate, not to mention the dagger of destroying their oil and powerplant infrastructure if they don't

 

[Correll]

The problem is, we've kicked the hornet's nest. Again.

Iran isn't done, and won't just walk away from this. This isn't Iraq or Afghanistan. They've been planning for this for decades. These people can cause real damage. And they'll surely try.

And you will give them a pass for their actions. And hold the ALL FATHER responsible, for not controlling the children.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

will your cult follow and move somewhere too?...

If I were younger and had a ticket?
Australia.

 

[Correll]

Religious people are scary.

Got it. you are afraid of religious people. THey think differently than you. They are different than you. They are the other.

No WE haven't.

...

I'm not talking about what Trump said, i am talking about what YOU and others have said, holding Trump responsiblel for Iranian actions and what that reveals about your world view.

LOL.

Respect is earned.
Trump hasn't earned an ounce of respect.

You have appointed him WORLD ALL FATHER.

What more respect can you give him? He is your DADDY, responsible for taking care of you, like you are a baby, or a mental hospital patient.

Sure.
ALL that $$$ he spent and given those camel jockey's?
Why can't they help?
Isreal is off in la la land.
Put THEIR boots on the ground in Iran.

Mmm, more bigotry. Nice. But, the straits are a world issue. It is up to anyone who wants to be an ADULT IN THE ROOM, to step up and help.

Sitting down and having a trantrum becasue Trump hurt their feel feels, is the act of a spoiled and ungrateful child.

 

[gipper]

Dude. You are spamming nonsense. I was responding to the criticism, not arguing against the concept of criticism.

You are... missing EVERYTHING.

I’m so used to you making ignorant statements, you’ll have to forgive me.

Do you think your Orange Messiah could do this?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

Iran is not interested in peace talks: Iran war: Tehran sees no reason to talk with US

Our former friends have understandably told us to go to hell: European countries reject Trump’s call for help to reopen strait of Hormuz

Iran wants their pound of flesh for this, at least. They're not going to let us out of there without some pain.

I'm assuming that there's some kind of back-channel talking going on, but how else can we get of this mess? Can't Trump just declare some kind of victory and run? He can just make something up. That's what he does. Just keep saying "we won, we won".

Ideas?

However the Unforced Error of Iran resolves the time has come for regime change.

With only a small handful of exceptions, neither of the 2 parties wake up wondering how they can make life better for the American people

Declare victory, bring everyone home, write off the ME.

Our involvement in the ME at the behest of our “Greatest Ally” has cost us tens of trillions. Think of the difference this would have made in the standard of living for Americans

 

[Correll]

I’m so used to you making ignorant statements, you’ll have to forgive me.

Do you think your Orange Messiah could do this?

When you say stupid shit like "orange messiah,

you are projecting the way you think about political leaders.

I support Trump POLITICALLY.

Keep your weirdness to yourself please.


If you have a real question, ask away.

 

[SaxonJackson]

I’m so used to you making ignorant statements, you’ll have to forgive me.

Do you think your Orange Messiah could do this?

 

[kyzr]

I’m so used to you making ignorant statements, you’ll have to forgive me.
Do you think your Orange Messiah could do this?

You keep cheering for the losing side dumbo.

Israeli Defence Ministry reports killing of Iran’s National Security Council secretary Larijani

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz said on 17 March that Ali Larijani, secretary of Iran's National Security Council, had been killed in an Israeli airstrike.

www.yahoo.com

 

[kyzr]

...automatically registered for the draft...

Bullshit.
The video says only males are registered
The military doesn't want or need a draft, they have a waiting list for try-outs, the ranks are full
MSM propaganda.

 

[ColonelAngus]

When you say stupid shit like "orange messiah,

you are projecting the way you think about political leaders.

I support Trump POLITICALLY.

Keep your weirdness to yourself please.


If you have a real question, ask away.

I really wonder what these fools did prior tl 2016.

All they know is TRUMP IS BAD.

There is no nuance. No understanding of anything 1 queetion deep. Trump is Hitler, but he is a slave to Israel.

They just parrot crap they hear.

Also, never any mea culpas when their MASSIVE lies are exposed. They just move to the next lie. “THE SHOT IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND STOPS COVID” is probably the #1 all time lefty lie. Has anyone ever actually said, “YEA, THAT WAS BULLSHIT”? No. But everyone who got the shot….PHUCKING GOT COVID.

PUTIN MADE THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP. That is a good one. We just move along to the next lie.

Brian Cole is white is a fun one.

Like that JACKASS Sam Harris claimed. They use “TRUMP” as an excuse to do ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to stop him because he is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND MUST BE STOPPED AT ANY COST….until the next Republican nominee in 2028.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Got it. you are afraid of religious people. THey think differently than you. They are different than you. They are the other.

Yep and it's getting scarier by the day.

They aren't just different, they want to push their agenda on the rest of society.
A little religion never hurt anyone.
The fanatics and $$$ changers, ruined religion.

I'm not talking about what Trump said, i am talking about what YOU and others have said, holding Trump responsiblel for Iranian actions and what that reveals about your world view.

WTF?

You fight with what you have.

You have appointed him WORLD ALL FATHER.

What more respect can you give him? He is your DADDY, responsible for taking care of you, like you are a baby, or a mental hospital patient.

Sounds just like Trump's cult.
Baby steps, the first thing is recognizing it.
Good job.

Mmm, more bigotry. Nice. But, the straits are a world issue.

NO, it isn't.

It is up to anyone who wants to be an ADULT IN THE ROOM, to step up and help.

They tried.
Trump as usual, didn't listen.
Now he whines.

Sitting down and having a trantrum becasue Trump hurt their feel feels, is the act of a spoiled and ungrateful child.


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So, Trump got his feelings hurt by the rest of the world, now Trump is the crying snowflake.

 

[Darkwind]

But I thought Iran was building a nuke
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[krichton]

So, there is a conflict between Iran and the US.


The US is striking at Iran.

Iran is striking at the world....


Yet the world is complaining to Trump... for Iran's actions....


Do you even realize the implications of that?

People who create the problem are typically the ones who are blamed for it.

 

[berg80]

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.

Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.

Wait, you're saying the two Jewish real estate developers trump send to negotiate with Muslims misunderstood technical and historical matters regarding Iran’s nuclear program? You're saying they lacked the qualifications necessary to competently represent the US? You must be a traitor. Because everyone trump appoints in the regime is perfectly suited to do their job.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I really wonder what these fools did prior tl 2016.

All they know is TRUMP IS BAD.

There is no nuance. No understanding of anything 1 queetion deep. Trump is Hitler, but he is a slave to Israel.

They just parrot crap they hear.

Also, never any mea culpas when their MASSIVE lies are exposed. They just move to the next lie. “THE SHOT IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND STOPS COVID” is probably the #1 all time lefty lie. Has anyone ever actually said, “YEA, THAT WAS BULLSHIT”? No. But everyone who got the shot….PHUCKING GOT COVID.

PUTIN MADE THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP. That is a good one. We just move along to the next lie.

Brian Cole is white is a fun one.

Like that JACKASS Sam Harris claimed. They use “TRUMP” as an excuse to do ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to stop him because he is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND MUST BE STOPPED AT ANY COST….until the next Republican nominee in 2028.

Before Trump the government was full globalist and both parties were two sides of the same coin. Then nationalist Trump caused the globalists to shit their pants and they had to wage a war against him. They created a left that is just like this:



Trump is their current Emmanuel Goldstein. If the globalists win and succeed in getting one of their own into the WH in 2028 then the country goes back to to pre-2016 times. If not, Vance or Rubio becomes the next Emmanuel Goldstein and they forget who Trump even was. Rinse and repeat.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Before Trump the government was full globalist and both parties were two sides of the same coin. Then nationalist Trump caused the globalists to shit their pants and they had to wage a war against him. They created a left that is just like this:



Trump is their current Emmanuel Goldstein. If the globalists win and succeed in getting one of their own into the WH in 2028 then the country goes back to to pre-2016 times. If not, Vance or Rubio becomes the next Emmanuel Goldstein and they forget who Trump even was. Rinse and repeat.

The Goldstein thing is PERFECT.

ORWELL NAILED IT.

Lefties are too ******* retarded to understand the irony that they are the living embodiment of a 1948 novel.

They are dumb as SCHITT.

 

[Darkwind]

Best methods to achieve those objectives is to reduce/destroy it's military weapons capability, military leadership and organization (including C3, support, supply, and resources), and eliminate the political structure of the theocratic government. Then encourage, arm, train, and advise the populace in insurrection towards the current regime and assist in it's replacement with a more civil, democratic, and secular form of government and leadership.

I don't disagree with much of what you've written, but I feel it needs to be pointed out that in this paragraph, you are essentially returning to the 'advisors' role we witnessed in Vietnam.

I'm still an advocate of breaking everything and then going home. <-- with our military.

As for CIA and other spooks on the ground fomenting an uprising, I think we'd be better served to let it go more ogranically and just keep the religious zealots weeded out and see what comes.

The only other viable option is to install the Shah's son as a temporary head of state until the revolution is complete and they are on their way back to rejoining the rest of the world. The problem with that is, "Will the Shah's son willingly step down at the end?"

My guess is not easily.

 

[Correll]

I really wonder what these fools did prior tl 2016.

All they know is TRUMP IS BAD.

There is no nuance. No understanding of anything 1 queetion deep. Trump is Hitler, but he is a slave to Israel.

They just parrot crap they hear.

Also, never any mea culpas when their MASSIVE lies are exposed. They just move to the next lie. “THE SHOT IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE AND STOPS COVID” is probably the #1 all time lefty lie. Has anyone ever actually said, “YEA, THAT WAS BULLSHIT”? No. But everyone who got the shot….PHUCKING GOT COVID.

PUTIN MADE THE HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP. That is a good one. We just move along to the next lie.

Brian Cole is white is a fun one.

Like that JACKASS Sam Harris claimed. They use “TRUMP” as an excuse to do ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to stop him because he is a THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND MUST BE STOPPED AT ANY COST….until the next Republican nominee in 2028.

Yeah, i've pointed that one out too.


And everytime they do that, it reveals that THEY THEMSELVES have no respect for their own words.


Because otherwise, they would be shocked and upset about how wrong they were.

I have never heard a leftie, who is upset that they were lied to about the hunter laptop.

THink about that. They were lied to. THey were led to spread a lie. A very important lie during an election.

And when they found out, their response, was, complete unconcern.


Think about what that says about how they think.