How did one couple come to own & control the majority of water in California?

[1srelluc]

It's more than a bit left-leaning but I suspect a deep dive into the business of 87% of billionaires would result in the same WTF revelations.



And, Oh Look, a Resnick is involved in Uke arms/equipment transfers too.

Resnick oversees the bureau’s Office of Regional Security and Arms Transfers, making her the person on the State Department side behind all the defense equipment and weapons headed to embattled countries, such as Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4270550-woman-us-transfers-ukraine-israel/

And you wonder why we are all boned.

 

[The Duke]

This needs to be discussed. How much of the water table of California did they allow Nestle to drain and sell worldwide?

 

[Dr.Destructo]

It's called BRIBERY and abuse of entrusted power for private gain

 

[The Duke]

That's some pretty underhanded stuff going on there. Corruption, bigtime.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

That's some pretty underhanded stuff going on there. Corruption, bigtime.

California has been nothing BUT corruption since Hollywood started dictating political policies.

 

[Sparker]

California doesn't have enough water for all the farming and all the urban population currently there. It will lose at least some of both as the whole state becomes drier. Rising energy costs will reduce long distance freight, so California won't be sending fruit and nuts across the nation, but it also won't have cheap energy to pump water over long distance and over mountain ranges from the Colorado River. Californians who don't want to leave their charred paradise may spiral into fantasies of climate change destroying the world.

 

[elektra]

California doesn't have enough water for all the farming and all the urban population currently there.

Only 10% of the water is used by the public in California

Each year California sets records for grape/wine production

Billions of gallons of water drain into the ocean.

 

[ReinyDays]

Only 10% of the water is used by the public in California

Each year California sets records for grape/wine production

Billions of gallons of water drain into the ocean.

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ...

The Columbia River dumps TEN TIMES the fresh, pure, crystal clear mountain spring water into the Pacific as the Sacramento/San Joaquin Rivers ... it's fun bringing my SoCal friends up and have them watch ... they fall on their knees crying ... just about more water than all other sources West of the Mississippi combined ... except the McKenzie ...

 

[ding]

Sounds like someone should build several 8 ft diameter pipelines from the Columbia River to So Cal.

 

[elektra]

Sounds like someone should build several 8 ft diameter pipelines from the Columbia River to SoCal

We have more than enough water. We don't need more. And a 8ft pipe ain't going to carry more than a few drops.

We need nuclear power. We shutdown 4 nuclear power plants. All our coal plants. We prevent new power plants.

We need electricity to pump the water we got

 

[ding]

We have more than enough water. We don't need more. And a 8ft pipe ain't going to carry more than a few drops.

We need nuclear power. We shutdown 4 nuclear power plants. All our coal plants. We prevent new power plants.

We need electricity to pump the water we got

Each eight foot diameter pipeline can pump about 65,000 BWPD. That's not nothing. So you'd need about 15 eight foot diameter water pipelines to provide a million barrels per day. It's just math.

 

[elektra]

Each eight foot diameter pipeline can pump about 65,000 BWPD. That's not nothing. So you'd need about 15 eight foot diameter water pipelines to provide a million barrels per day. It's just math.

Math? If you did the math you would see that California has more than enough water but no electricity to pump the water.

California shut down 4 nuclear power plants and numerous fossil fuel plants.

An 8ft pipe? California has proposed to 40' pipes to bypass the little area called the Delta at a cost of $50 billion.

Not only is your 8' pipe from Washington not needed the cost would be at least $50 billion and it would require a nuclear plant to run the pumps

 

[ding]

Math? If you did the math you would see that California has more than enough water but no electricity to pump the water.

California shut down 4 nuclear power plants and numerous fossil fuel plants.

An 8ft pipe? California has proposed to 40' pipes to bypass the little area called the Delta at a cost of $50 billion.

Not only is your 8' pipe from Washington not needed the cost would be at least $50 billion and it would require a nuclear plant to run the pumps

It's really more about resource usage. If you don't believe water scarcity will ever be a thing, then don't worry about it.

But to your point... that's exactly the kind of thing the federal government should be doing. Infrastructure that benefits the welfare of the union.

 

[elektra]

It's really more about resource usage. If you don't believe water scarcity will ever be a thing, then don't worry about it.

But to your point... that's exactly the kind of thing the federal government should be doing. Infrastructure that benefits the welfare of the union.

Infrastructure is already there, a long history of government subsidies building water projects to benefit billionaire farmers and industry.

 

[ding]

Infrastructure is already there, a long history of government subsidies building water projects to benefit billionaire farmers and industry.

Not this one. Again... if you don't believe water scarcity will ever be a thing, don't worry about it.

 

[elektra]

Not this one. Again... if you don't believe water scarcity will ever be a thing, don't worry about it.

Uh, there is no water scarcity in California which is the wettest state west of the Mississippi

 

[ding]

Uh, there is no water scarcity in California which is the wettest state west of the Mississippi

Then don't worry about it as there will never ever be a water scarcity, right?

 

[elektra]

Then don't worry about it as there will never ever be a water scarcity, right?

In California there has never been water scarcity

 

[ReinyDays]

Each eight foot diameter pipeline can pump about 65,000 BWPD. That's not nothing. So you'd need about 15 eight foot diameter water pipelines to provide a million barrels per day. It's just math.

We generate 7.5 Gigawatts annually along the Columbia/Snake Rivers ... easy to pump the water up to the High Desert out of The Dallas dam ... then just dump it in the Sacramento River headwaters ...

Though I'm not sure why growing more fuel reduces fire risk ... irrigate the chaparral and you'll have a bigger problem with fire ... it was the heavy rains from last year that brought on this fire hazard ...

 

[elektra]

We generate 7.5 Gigawatts annually along the Columbia/Snake Rivers ... easy to pump the water up to the High Desert out of The Dallas dam ... then just dump it in the Sacramento River headwaters ...

There are a few problems with your idea.

100% of the Columbia/Snake river power is already sold under contracts. There is no excess.

7.5 gw a year? California uses 6,000 gw a hour pumping water.

The Grand Coulee dam on the Columbia river technically produces 6.8 gwh. 6.8 gw every hour

Where do you get 7.5 gw a year? That is wrong. It most likely was a hour, not annualy