How did one couple come to own & control the majority of water in California?

[Moonglow]

It's more than a bit left-leaning but I suspect a deep dive into the business of 87% of billionaires would result in the same WTF revelations.



And, Oh Look, a Resnick is involved in Uke arms/equipment transfers too.

Resnick oversees the bureau’s Office of Regional Security and Arms Transfers, making her the person on the State Department side behind all the defense equipment and weapons headed to embattled countries, such as Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4270550-woman-us-transfers-ukraine-israel/

And you wonder why we are all boned.

Yer boning is never ending, awwww.

 

[Moonglow]

Gasquet is the rainiest place in California ... 8 feet per year ... up against the Oregon State line ... further north at the Mt Hebo Radar Station, they averaged 16 feet per year while there was military radar operations there ... but all that water flows into the oceans, it's not aqueductable ... easier stealing Arizona's share of the Colorado ...

75ºF and sunny on Malibu Beach right now ...

78 and sunny at the foothills of the Ozarks in Mizzouri.

 

[elektra]

Yes, likely. California is ALWAYS dry. Owen's lake is now dry thanks to the water sent to LA. Mono lake would likewise be dry if it weren't for laws preserving it.

One of the three water projects.

1913 was a bad year for Owens Lake.

How much electricity does the Owens river consume

 

[elektra]

Gasquet is the rainiest place in California ... 8 feet per year ... up against the Oregon State line ... further north at the Mt Hebo Radar Station, they averaged 16 feet per year while there was military radar operations there ... but all that water flows into the oceans, it's not aqueductable ... easier stealing Arizona's share of the Colorado ...

75ºF and sunny on Malibu Beach right now ...

Yep, too much flows out to sea. Last I checked though, grape acreage has gone up a 1000% in the last 40 years so I think we got plenty of water

Electricity though, we don't have enough cheap electricity to pump water economically

 

[westwall]

One of the three water projects.

1913 was a bad year for Owens Lake.

How much electricity does the Owens river consume

Owen's lake has never refilled thanks to LA's water needs. Owen's uses very little electricity. It's a DRY lake.

 

[elektra]

Owen's lake has never refilled thanks to LA's water needs. Owen's uses very little electricity. It's a DRY lake.

The aqueduct itself has no pumping stations?

 

[elektra]

Owen's lake has never refilled thanks to LA's water needs. Owen's uses very little electricity. It's a DRY lake.

I saw China Town and the Two Jakes

 

[westwall]

The aqueduct itself has no pumping stations?

For the majority of its length, no. Almost all of the pumping is done taking the water over the San Gabriel mountains from the Lancaster area to just about where the junction of I5 and Hwy 14 is.

 

[elektra]

For the majority of its length, no. Almost all of the pumping is done taking the water over the San Gabriel mountains from the Lancaster area to just about where the junction of I5 and Hwy 14 is.

I big lift. I bet we would be surprised how much electricity that uses

 

[westwall]

I big lift. I bet we would be surprised how much electricity that uses

There's no question it uses a lot, but southern California IS a desert. Northern California gets a decent amount of water, but when it doesn't, the whole state suffers.

That's why they need to build desalination plants along the coast to ensure a consistent supply of water.

And yes, those use a lot of electricity.

 

[elektra]

There's no question it uses a lot, but southern California IS a desert. Northern California gets a decent amount of water, but when it doesn't, the whole state suffers.

That's why they need to build desalination plants along the coast to ensure a consistent supply of water.

And yes, those use a lot of electricity.

Would we need desalination plants for drinking water if we did not make wine? Or grow almonds. Or used the central valley project to its full potential.

I remember many drought years in a row which was discussed in the threads. Each drought year set a new record in grape production.

 

[westwall]

Would we need desalination plants for drinking water if we did not make wine? Or grow almonds. Or used the central valley project to its full potential.

I remember many drought years in a row which was discussed in the threads. Each drought year set a new record in grape production.

Yes. California suffers droughts not infrequently. They can last for years, the longest one that I recall lasted about 300 years. That was 1200 years ago. All of the growing you are talking about takes place in the central valley, or Sonoma region, and they get their water from the Sierras. There's some grape production in the Santa Ynez and Foxen Canyon regions as well, but in drought years they produce very little.

So, the reality is California needs to build at least a dozen large sized reservoirs, and they also need to build at least four large nuclear power plants.

 

[elektra]

Yes. California suffers droughts not infrequently. They can last for years, the longest one that I recall lasted about 300 years. That was 1200 years ago. All of the growing you are talking about takes place in the central valley, or Sonoma region, and they get their water from the Sierras. There's some grape production in the Santa Ynez and Foxen Canyon regions as well, but in drought years they produce very little.

So, the reality is California needs to build at least a dozen large sized reservoirs, and they also need to build at least four large nuclear power plants.

They shut down 4 nukes. California needs a 100% nuke power and then 100% more nuke so we attract more businesses.

The Sierra is a great resource.

Maybe in dry years we don't set records making wine?

 

[ReinyDays]

Yes, likely. California is ALWAYS dry. Owen's lake is now dry thanks to the water sent to LA. Mono lake would likewise be dry if it weren't for laws preserving it.

How'bout the Trumpster releasing irrigation water in February ... HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW. HAW ... what a bunch of morons ... Pineapple Express after Pineapple Express but them damn irrigation canals are full ...

Only two days worth of water was released ... still ... a stupid beat-off move ... but what do we expect from whoremongers ...

ETA: Los Angeles doesn't have any vineyards to my knowledge ... but they do have oil wells ... lots and lots of oil wells ... and refineries ... believe me sweetheart, if SoCal needs electricity, they'll pay to get electricity ... the trick is not shortchanging the farmers of their water, I guess whoremongers don't understand that ...

Damn city-slicking flatlanders don't know where food comes from ...