How come the policies that got us in this mess are working?

[Rocko]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

 

[Truthmatters]

they have been in place for nearly a decade havent they?

how is it they took so long to work and first took us into a free fall ?

Because they are not helping us they are hurting us.

 

[Rocko]

they have been in place for nearly a decade havent they?

how is it they took so long to work and first took us into a free fall ?

Because they are not helping us they are hurting us.

The point is America doesn't live or die based on changing the marginal rates, like your favorite team claims.....In reality lower taxes are better for a strong economy, but that's not the point. We were told America can't afford the same tax rate. When the economy was losing a boatload of jobs, liberals made the excuse that it's not Obama's fault, the Bush tax cuts are to blame.

 

[editec]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

No I suspect most "liberals" who are paying attention don't think the Bush Tax cuts caused the meltdown.

If anything they blame those tax cuts on the state of the US debt.

Not the same thing at all.

The national debt didn't CAUSE the BANSTERS" MELTDOWN, kid.

You're confusing two entirely different issues.

That said, Obama is not responsible for a healthier wall street.

Neither was he responsible for it having crashed.

 

[Truthmatters]

we need to do what Arizona did to get out of debt.

They raised taxes and it worked

 

[percysunshine]

They are hicks, Rita.

 

[Rocko]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

No I suspect most "liberals" who are paying attention don't think the Bush Tax cuts caused the meltdown.

If anything they blame those tax cuts on the state of the US debt.

Not the same thing at all.

The national debt didn't CAUSE the BANSTERS" MELTDOWN, kid.

You're confusing two entirely different issues.

That said, Obama is not responsible for a healthier wall street.

Neither was he responsible for it having crashed.

No, for democrats raising taxes is the holy grail. You're right that they have ignorantly blamed the tax cuts on our debt problems, but the democrats have disingenuously blamed the cuts on all of our economic problems.

 

[uscitizen]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

No I suspect most "liberals" who are paying attention don't think the Bush Tax cuts caused the meltdown.

If anything they blame those tax cuts on the state of the US debt.

Not the same thing at all.

The national debt didn't CAUSE the BANSTERS" MELTDOWN, kid.

You're confusing two entirely different issues.

That said, Obama is not responsible for a healthier wall street.

Neither was he responsible for it having crashed.

No, for democrats raising taxes is the holy grail. You're right that they have ignorantly blamed the tax cuts on our debt problems, but the democrats have disingenuously blamed the cuts on all of our economic problems.

You are wrong and refuse to understand.

 

[Full-Auto]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

Anyone patting Obama on the back for the unemployment numbers is a complete idiot and not very intelligent in any circle.
To arrive at those numbers only 2.2 million have been dropped from the roles.

If those numbers were still in effect as anyone in the real world knows they are., unemployment would stand a point higher as we speak.

However this distraction is exactly that, as the Omama admin just pulled a friday regulation dump.

 

[Rocko]

As far as the stock market surge, people have to put there money somewhere. Look at how anemic housing is, and rates are so low cd's don't pay anything, the government debt market is challenging with the downgrades.

 

[Rocko]

No I suspect most "liberals" who are paying attention don't think the Bush Tax cuts caused the meltdown.

If anything they blame those tax cuts on the state of the US debt.

Not the same thing at all.

The national debt didn't CAUSE the BANSTERS" MELTDOWN, kid.

You're confusing two entirely different issues.

That said, Obama is not responsible for a healthier wall street.

Neither was he responsible for it having crashed.

No, for democrats raising taxes is the holy grail. You're right that they have ignorantly blamed the tax cuts on our debt problems, but the democrats have disingenuously blamed the cuts on all of our economic problems.

You are wrong and refuse to understand.

so democrats never blamed the Bush Tax cuts for a poor economy????????

 

[Truthmatters]

I just wish we would do the smart thing and look through our history and go back to the tax rates that we had when we were humming along for real.

 

[Truthmatters]

File:U.S.-income-taxes-out-of-total-taxes.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Look at this chart.

wars are NOT the way to increase tax reciepts.

Unless you want to have endless wars and periodic crashes and LONG drawn out recoveries.

Look at the Clinton years of taxes.

Look at the years right before Clintons.

Our taxes on the wealthy are too low

 

[Rocko]

File:U.S.-income-taxes-out-of-total-taxes.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Look at this chart.

wars are NOT the way to increase tax reciepts.

Unless you want to have endless wars and periodic crashes and LONG drawn out recoveries.

Look at the Clinton years of taxes.

Look at the years right before Clintons.

Our taxes on the wealthy are too low

you see uscitizen???????

 

[Truthmatters]

File:Chart 1.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Look at the 50s and 60s which the right alwayss claim were the hey days.

 

[uscitizen]

No, for democrats raising taxes is the holy grail. You're right that they have ignorantly blamed the tax cuts on our debt problems, but the democrats have disingenuously blamed the cuts on all of our economic problems.

You are wrong and refuse to understand.

so democrats never blamed the Bush Tax cuts for a poor economy????????

Some did, but then some republicans blame Obama for the entire recession.
There are stupid members of both party's.

btw the tax cuts did not cause this mess but they made the debt worse which is a major concern of the right moreso than the left.

 

[Truthmatters]

This country used to be the top of everything.

that was when we had the revenue to be the top.

Not being willing to pay to be the top is stupidity if you insist on being the best.

 

[Rocko]

You are wrong and refuse to understand.

so democrats never blamed the Bush Tax cuts for a poor economy????????

Some did, but then some republicans blame Obama for the entire recession.
There are stupid members of both party's.

btw the tax cuts did not cause this mess but they made the debt worse which is a major concern of the right moreso than the left.

I agree with your first paragraph, but I also think more than some democrats were blaming the tax cuts cuts for everything.

I'm a supply side economics person. I think the tax cuts were healthy for the economy, and resulted in more revenue to help us with budgets. The problem wasn't the we let people keep too much of their money, but we overspent on other things.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Two threads today thanking Obama for the great surge in employment and the stock market indexes. Liberals have made it a taking point that the Bush tax cuts created a economic meltdown. So how come we're getting all this wonderful data with them still in place????

No.....Liberals never said his tax-cuts were the primary-reason we had an economic-meltdown. That sounds too-much like one o' those Porky Limbaugh factoids.

If there is a common-denominator for the present (and, slowly-dying) economic-debacle, it'd have to be Texas-politicians, in-general.....and, their trusty-sidekick; The DICK; Cheney.

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"Texas Governor Rick Perry likes to brag that his state is an economic powerhouse.

But don't tell that to the nearly one in five Texans who are living below the poverty line."

Poverty In Texas​

 

[percysunshine]

No.....Liberals never said ....

You actually spend the time to keep track of what liberals say?

What a weird hobby.