Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Cecilie1200]

I suppose that, if you are determined that your child should never be any more educated than you are, homeschooling is a wonderful idea.

You're a dope.



Recent statistics from The College Board and the American College Testing Program (ACT) indicate that home schoolers are exceeding the national average test scores on both the SAT and the ACT college entrance exams. In 1999, the 2219 students who identified themselves as home schooled students on the SAT test, scored an average of 1083 (verbal 548, math 535), 67 points above the national average of 1016. A perfect SAT score is 1600. Also in 1999, 3616 home school students taking the ACT scored an average of 22.7, compared to the national average of 21, a perfect score being 36.
College-bound Home Schoolers Make Headlines (HSLDA | National Center News)

Okay, but let's be VERY clear about this: we don't know how many home schooled kids are sitting for SAT and are college bound. My estimation would be that most home schooled kids are not college bound and don't take SAT tests.

And you base that estimation on what?

 

[Cecilie1200]

I suppose that, if you are determined that your child should never be any more educated than you are, homeschooling is a wonderful idea.

What bull. You think when you reach adulthood you stop learning? Not everything needs a diploma as proof of intelligence.

My oldest son was homeschooled until halfway through high school, when he began attending a charter school. He is considerably more educated than I am in a number of areas now, since those are the areas where his talents and interests lie and mine don't.

Funny thing about teaching someone something: you end up more educated at the end yourself. It was a good experience for both of us.

 

[Howey]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

Homeschooling that allows a standardized curriculum taught by qualified parents teamed with social interaction and without pursuit of any personal sociological and political agendas is acceptable.

Rarely today is that possible.

who deems someone is qualified???? Seeing I had to teach my 17 year old son what Communism was tells me your thinking is flawed.

Good point. What, exactly, did you have to "teach" your son about communism that's not in home schooling or public school textbooks?

 

[thanatos144]

Homeschooling that allows a standardized curriculum taught by qualified parents teamed with social interaction and without pursuit of any personal sociological and political agendas is acceptable.

Rarely today is that possible.

who deems someone is qualified???? Seeing I had to teach my 17 year old son what Communism was tells me your thinking is flawed.

Good point. What, exactly, did you have to "teach" your son about communism that's not in home schooling or public school textbooks?

Oh the little fact like what the **** it was..... They never taught him. Funny how schools seem to gloss over certain things like the cold war and Japanese interment camps ( Something my honor roll daughter didn't know existed) yet teach them things like Marlin Monroe and how noble the radical counter culture was..... No I dont home school but I do home correct. I cant blame it all on teachers because most of them dont even know the subject they are teaching.

 

[rightwinger]

who deems someone is qualified???? Seeing I had to teach my 17 year old son what Communism was tells me your thinking is flawed.

Good point. What, exactly, did you have to "teach" your son about communism that's not in home schooling or public school textbooks?

Oh the little fact like what the **** it was..... They never taught him. Funny how schools seem to gloss over certain things like the cold war and Japanese interment camps ( Something my honor roll daughter didn't know existed) yet teach them things like Marlin Monroe and how noble the radical counter culture was..... No I dont home school but I do home correct. I cant blame it all on teachers because most of them dont even know the subject they are teaching.

Better yet

Why don't you let them read what you post on this board and see what Dad is really like

 

[Howey]

I was homeschooled as a child.

There are arguments made for and against it.

Would you please share your views on it here?

How does being schooled by the Christian Liberty Academy equal home schooling. Was it a curriculum you were taught at home or something?

They had sent me homeschooling packages with all of my schoolwork and books in them.

And what do those textbooks say about creation?

 

[Howey]

who deems someone is qualified???? Seeing I had to teach my 17 year old son what Communism was tells me your thinking is flawed.

Good point. What, exactly, did you have to "teach" your son about communism that's not in home schooling or public school textbooks?

Oh the little fact like what the **** it was..... They never taught him. Funny how schools seem to gloss over certain things like the cold war and Japanese interment camps ( Something my honor roll daughter didn't know existed) yet teach them things like Marlin Monroe and how noble the radical counter culture was..... No I dont home school but I do home correct. I cant blame it all on teachers because most of them dont even know the subject they are teaching.

I'm absolutely positive you're lying. No history book about the 20th century would exclude those.

And I hope you don't teach your children grammar or spelling.

 

[longknife]

I really don't know enough to truly comment on the subject.

But, there is one thing I've noticed - a marked increase in TV promos for logging on to websites where children can attend classes online from home.

That seems to make a great deal of sense to me - IF the parents take the time to review the material and, when necessary, add their own views.

 

[Navy1960]

Homeschooling would depend a lot on the parent or person doing the teaching, some parents who have a genuine love and devotion to education and their children who homeschool them tend to do quite well and their children tend to excel above their peers. On the other side of that are parents who teach their children from a limited view and provide them with limited social skills and those kids tend to be unable to compete with their peers. If my kids were younger and I was a parent facing a public school that was falling apart, with teachers who were more interested in a paycheck than teaching, and an environment that focused on survival rather than learning, then I don't see how I could ever in today's highly competitive world not homeschool my daughter or for that matter blame anyone who would make that choice.

 

[Wake]

How does being schooled by the Christian Liberty Academy equal home schooling. Was it a curriculum you were taught at home or something?

They had sent me homeschooling packages with all of my schoolwork and books in them.

And what do those textbooks say about creation?

Well, that's the thing. Typically one book, a smaller book, was based on generic religious teaching. Also the book reports weren't necessarily religious, but were innocent regardless. The math book was always fat, so I'd devour it, get bored, and move on to science, literature, language, history, etc. In a way I wish home schooling packages could be modified to suit what the child wishes to be in life; for example if he or she wishes healthcare, start adding medical terminology books and rudimentary pharmacology and anatomy to the bundle.

What I do recall is that my science book didn't mention the big bang theory or creationism. It solely focused on what was known at that point, like chemistry, geology, various scientific experiments and data, etc. That suited me, because I would rather science books stuck to what was for sure known, like, say, how molecules contract under low temperatures, instead of delving into the murkiness of scientific theory or religious assumption.

I didn't have an arts class, but I did and still do love the beauty of literature and poetry. Albeit during my youth it was more than a little difficult to focus on it, because of my ADHD. Eventually I found aspects of my academia to be fascinating, which in turn gave me enough reason to go through and complete all of my studies well on my own.

 

[thanatos144]

Good point. What, exactly, did you have to "teach" your son about communism that's not in home schooling or public school textbooks?

Oh the little fact like what the **** it was..... They never taught him. Funny how schools seem to gloss over certain things like the cold war and Japanese interment camps ( Something my honor roll daughter didn't know existed) yet teach them things like Marlin Monroe and how noble the radical counter culture was..... No I dont home school but I do home correct. I cant blame it all on teachers because most of them dont even know the subject they are teaching.

I'm absolutely positive you're lying. No history book about the 20th century would exclude those.

And I hope you don't teach your children grammar or spelling.

sorry not like you I have no reason to lie.

 

[SmedlyButler]

Because I don't have enough info about the subject. One comment, it seems you learned to love to learn. If that was a result of your home schooling, great. To me that should be the #1 goal of any education. If it was mainly an innate function of your own mind at least they didn't stifle it, great.

One type of home schooling I would find dangerous to the intellectual well being of a child would be for example; if parents kept their kids home from school to avoid a secular education and instead indoctrinated them only in exreme religious doctrine.

I guess that would apply to home-schooling Nazi parents and other fanatical groups who I find offensive. That's my opinion and I guess some could raise objections on 1st ammendment grounds.

 

[P@triot]

The data proves that homeschooling produces far superior results over the failed liberal public model which exists solely to indoctrinate instead of educate...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.(15)

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.(16)

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics.(17)

Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”(18)

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Citations:
(15) Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

(16) 15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

(17) Homeschool World - Articles - The Facts Are In: Homeschoolers Excel - Practical Homeschooling Magazine

(18) HSLDA | Socialization: Homeschoolers Are in the Real World

 

[SmedlyButler]

I admire your Pollyanna attitude.

It was more one on one. Nowadays, tne teacher, trying to teach 30 to 50 kids in one big room? Oh, I wish the olden days were upon us.

What schools are you talking about? My cousin, now deceased, taught 60 kids in 6 different grades in a one room schoolhouse. 2 of her students became US senators.

When my son was in 1st grade his teacher complained she didn't have enough time to send a note home with him because she had 21 other students to worry about.

on each individual student. If a teacher truly cares about their job there are incredible time pressures to contend with. A lot of us can just say " oh well, i'll finish that tomorrow". For a lot of teachers tasks there is no tomorrow.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The data proves that homeschooling produces far superior results over the failed liberal public model which exists solely to indoctrinate instead of educate...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.(15)

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.(16)

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics.(17)

Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”(18)

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks.
This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide

Citations:
(15) Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

(16) 15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

(17) Homeschool World - Articles - The Facts Are In: Homeschoolers Excel - Practical Homeschooling Magazine

(18) HSLDA | Socialization: Homeschoolers Are in the Real World

That's not because they are homeschooled. It's because they are not the average children.

For starters, how do you homeschool when both parents have to work?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

 

[KGB]

And, my bet is that most people are simply not qualified to teach their kids much more than not pooping in their diaper.

What an incredibly arrogant thing to say. I'm guessing you don't have kids of your own. The truth is, parents are the first & best education line around. Morality, wisdom & basic knowledge are the bedrock of raising a child which is what parents are charged to do. You don't get that in a public sector learning mill.

 

[KGB]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

You hire a tutor to compliment. Or you as the parent take a class in the language you are going to instruct your child in. It's called problem solving, something public education fails to impart....

 

[Unkotare]

I'm just curious. How does a parent without a foreign language skill teach a child a foreign language,

where HS graduation requires credits in a foreign language?

LOL. Couldn't matter much considering the abysmal state of foreign-language education in the US generally. If a parent at home does speak a foreign language (really speak it, not the "I'm fluent because I took Spanish in high school!" BS), then that student is likely already miles ahead of his or her public school peers in this regard.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The data proves that homeschooling produces far superior results over the failed liberal public model which exists solely to indoctrinate instead of educate...

“A recent study shows that homeschooled kids score almost twice as high on exams as public school students. Other studies show that homeschooled kids score 72 points higher than the national average on SAT exams.(15)

Homeschoolers are more likely to attend college, are more likely to graduate, and have higher college GPAs (Grade Point Averages) than other students.(16)

The old wives’ tale spread by the teachers’ unions (who are afraid of competition) is that homeschoolers are not “socialized.” Well, the facts are in. Homeschoolers are almost twice as involved in their local community or church as public school students, and almost three times as involved in politics.(17)

Homeschooled children also have far fewer behavioral problems.”(18)

Excerpt From: Wayne Allyn Root. “The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide.” Regnery Publishing, 2013-03-26. iBooks.
This material may be protected by copyright.

Check out this book on the iBooks Store: The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide

Citations:
(15) Do Homeschool Kids Really Rate Better on Standardized Tests?

(16) 15 Key Facts About Homeschooled Kids in College - OnlineCollege.org

(17) Homeschool World - Articles - The Facts Are In: Homeschoolers Excel - Practical Homeschooling Magazine

(18) HSLDA | Socialization: Homeschoolers Are in the Real World

That's not because they are homeschooled. It's because they are not the average children.

For starters, how do you homeschool when both parents have to work?

The parents can work different shifts.

Where there's a will and all that.