Homeschooling: Your Views, Please

[Samson]

I wasn't referring in any way to "revenue", "profit", "dollars", "value", "income", "business expenses" or anything remotely related. I'd plead guilty to misleading you but that would be lying. None of that was about revenue; it was about activity. How much revenue an industry makes has nothing to do with that.

Industry revenue "HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTIVITY?"



I rest my case.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I homeschooled but hired people to help me. I was also working. off topic * Public apology to Samson - I apologise for the sarcasm the other day. I should not have gone down that road. Have a nice evening. - Jeri

 

[Pogo]

I wasn't referring in any way to "revenue", "profit", "dollars", "value", "income", "business expenses" or anything remotely related. I'd plead guilty to misleading you but that would be lying. None of that was about revenue; it was about activity. How much revenue an industry makes has nothing to do with that.

Industry revenue "HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTIVITY?"

Not for my point, no. I don't know what's elusive about this but I'm saying the level of activity hasn't sustained, because there isn't enough interest. How much money they make before or after that point of cutting back, is IRRELEVANT to the point.

Is there another language I should post this in that would actually penetrate? Because in English, the word "that" (none of that) refers to my argument. Apparently it just chaps your hide that you don't get to dictate to me what my own argument is. Get a native English speaker to explain this to you. It's a simple ******* sentence.

I told you the activity reached a peak and tailed off. That probably has an impact on revenue, but how much money that industry makes or doesn't make IS NOT THE POINT. The point is how BUSY that technology is keeping them.

I rest my case.

You don't even have a case. Desperately trying to morph a point into something it isn't and never was demonstrates that amply.

 

[P@triot]

You aren’t compelled to loan your car to anyone who wants it, but you are compelled to surrender your school-age child to strangers who process children for a livelihood, even though one in every nine schoolchildren is terrified of physical harm happening to them in school, terrified with good cause; about thirty-three are murdered there every year. From 1992 through 1999, 262 children were murdered in school in the United States. Your great-great-grandmother didn’t have to surrender her children. What happened?

Public Education

 

[P@triot]

If I demanded you give up your television to an anonymous, itinerant repairman who needed work you’d think I was crazy; if I came with a policeman who forced you to pay that repairman even after he broke your set, you would be outraged. Why are you so docile when you give up your child to a government agent called a schoolteacher?

Public Education

 

[P@triot]

Before you hire a company to build a house, you would, I expect, insist on detailed plans showing what the finished structure was going to look like. Building a child’s mind and character is what public schools do, their justification for prematurely breaking family and neighborhood learning. Where is documentary evidence to prove this assumption that trained and certified professionals do it better than people who know and love them can? There isn’t any.

Public Education

 

[KNB]

Based on the sample of the American population from US Messageboard, no one in a red state should be left to educate their own children.

Those are the people who are screaming to be able to educate their own children.

 

[PratchettFan]

The parents decision, if they want to take it on. But I think it robs the kids of social interaction. I would never do it, but that really has to be an individual choice.

 

[Wake]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

 

[Pogo]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Agreed, Wake. The kind of social interaction I got in school I could have done without. The neighborhood community was entirely different.

 

[Samson]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Indeed, which makes the argument that "group learning" is an essential element of education almost as stupid as the argument that technology is not constantly morphing to make virtual group work easier.

 

[rightwinger]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to totally control those who their children interact with.

 

[Pogo]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

Surely it can mean that, like a gated community means.

Depends on where you live too. They were different times but had I been home schooled the surrounding community would have been the same element as the student body. The only missing element would have been the penguins. And that omission would have been more than welcome. They were pretty fucked up. Not quite to the degree of this gang but the same mentality.

 

[rightwinger]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

Surely it can mean that, like a gated community means.

Depends on where you live too. They were different times but had I been home schooled the surrounding community would have been the same element as the student body. The only missing element would have been the penguins. And that omission would have been more than welcome. They were pretty fucked up. Not quite to the degree of this gang but the same mentality.

When I was a kid, nobody was homeschooled. But we had Catholic Schools

The parents would say that they send their kids to Catholic Schools for a good Christian education. But the kids I played with who went to Catholic Schools would say their parents do not want them to go to school with negroes

 

[Wake]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

You said the bolded, RW, not I.

When you homeschool your children, you do get a say in who/what influences them.

And there is not anything wrong with that.

 

[rightwinger]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

You said the bolded, RW, not I.

When you homeschool your children, you do get a say in who/what influences them.

And there is not anything wrong with that.

Not that there's anything wrong with that

 

[KNB]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

You said the bolded, RW, not I.

When you homeschool your children, you do get a say in who/what influences them.

And there is not anything wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with that, unless you're an inbred Confederate Republican who doesn't know shit about the world except what you hear from Rush O'Reilly or Megyn Palin.

If the parents are dead wrong about everything from religion to science then the children shouldn't be homeschooled.

 

[Pogo]

I daresay homeschooled children out-compete publicly schooled children in matters of academia.

There is the element of lacking social interaction, but when you think of all the garbage found in public schools... who really needs that? If you have an ample amount of intelligence, funding, and the willingness to have your children socialize, on all accounts there are ways to do so. Being homeschooled doesn't mean you're in a cage.

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

You said the bolded, RW, not I.

When you homeschool your children, you do get a say in who/what influences them.

And there is not anything wrong with that.

I think what he's saying is the opposite -- that when you send 'em off to public school you don't get that control.

See:

Being homeschooled means your children do not have to go to school with blacks, hispanics, poor kids, white trash, muslims, jews, gays or any other negative influences

By choosing to homeschool, parents get to toatally control those who their children interact with.

Surely it can mean that, like a gated community means.

Depends on where you live too. They were different times but had I been home schooled the surrounding community would have been the same element as the student body. The only missing element would have been the penguins. And that omission would have been more than welcome. They were pretty fucked up. Not quite to the degree of this gang but the same mentality.

When I was a kid, nobody was homeschooled. But we had Catholic Schools

The parents would say that they send their kids to Catholic Schools for a good Christian education. But the kids I played with who went to Catholic Schools would say their parents do not want them to go to school with negroes

Again, I'm sure that happens; there are different reasons depending on the local environment. Where I grew up in Suburbia there were no blacks. Didn't exist. No Hispanics, no Jews, not even a Canadian. Pretty much just Irish and Italian Catholics -- which we weren't even aware of at the time (one neighbor was Lebanese but that was like an arcane piece of trivia).

(We were part of what demographers sometimes call "white flight", except for the fact that the city neighborhood we moved away from was the same demographic (some of our new neighbors were our old neighbors) which makes the "white flight" term erroneous -- people were moving not for reasons of any ethnicity but for the sheer physical space their new postwar affluence afforded them.)

Of course the idea of home schooling was all but unknown then. It was a completely different time. Anyway long story short, we weren't sent to Catholic school to avoid negroes or anybody else; we were sent because we were Catholic. And the church had that kind of influence.

At least we weren't in Ireland...

 

[sameech]

One's views on homeschooling is likely reflective of their social experiences and age. When I was a kid, you seldom heard of it and it was mostly confined to complete religious zealots. Since then, the academic spectrum has broadened widely. In order to be released to home schooling in my area now, the parents either have to demonstrate that they have a workable plan or enroll the child in one of the school system approved home school courses. ironically, in my area, the religious zealots have built private schools--several of them--that do far more damage to the kids than a parent ever could IMO (which is not to say that I have any issue with religious instruction, but these schools really are a bucket of snakes away from being criminal in their incompetence).

 

[Wake]

I would rather parents of all ideologies and political persuasions be allowed the freedom to homeschool their children in peace. [MENTION=20321]rightwinger[/MENTION]