Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[hobelim]

"made a 'god' " is not a universally accepted idea

Not only that... it is ABSURD...

 

[hobelim]

You simply don't understand the language. What does "morning star" mean? By the definition, they both can be a morning star. The difference one fell out of favor with Father in Heaven and was banished. The other was revered by Father in Heaven and made a God. So simple to understand.

Yeah sure, its very simple to understand as long as you "just believe" and don't think about it. AT ALL. Damn.

God is the only living being in existence whose existence is absolute. God is incorporeal and has no visible shape or material form. He has no equal, and there is no other god in existence either above or below him. Any human being like Jesus, a Jewish man, who attributed his existence to God cannot be God. Now that's simple.

"The Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice"

"The Son of God" is just a relational metaphor that indicates a closeness and intimate knowledge of God above that of other prophets who were called "servants of God". "A servant does not know what his master is about."

Now this is what you have to deal with. You are an idolator who has perjured herself in the name of God and desecrates the teachings of Jesus. YOUR religious instructors who amount to talking serpents have deceived you whether they have made great errors in their speculations or whether they had been mislead themselves. So now "you have allowed satan to enter your mind" under the guise of "belief" to perpetuate flat out lies which amounts to intentional murder. Your narcissistic vanity and desire to be "a god" and rule your own planet one day is why YOU have been banished from heaven into the realm of the dead. Gehenna. Where is your faith?

There is no God but God. There never will be another. Not Jesus, the Holy ghost, not anyone. Certainly not you.

How is it that you don't know the right course to take?

 

[BreezeWood]

Using the Bible to say it’s false is stupid. What is your proof and references? You have none. I be smelled out your stink and you have nothing left. Either produce your proof or quit.

you have nothing to say and have only empty claims ...

the content of the 4th century christian bible is unsubstantiated by any archival recordings used by them to publish their document.

the christian bible, all three desert bibles are forgeries ... in particular using false pretense for commandments claimed from the heavens that never existed and only a fraction of the misrepresentations made throughout those documents.

nothing new in your denials and accusatory deflections c-bear ...

you and the other desert dwellers have been screaming your false religions for centuries -

provide the tablets claimed heavenly w/ their etchings or be relegated as a liar the same as moses and the desert bibles their true status as deliberate forgeries.

 

[hobelim]

provide the tablets claimed heavenly w/ their etchings or be relegated as a liar the same as moses and the desert bibles their true status as deliberate forgeries.

The tablets were hidden where most people never look. Be brave, "see what everyone else chooses not to see, out of fear or conformity or laziness". Look within to see if anything at all was etched into your heart of stone. Forget about what everyone else believes. It just distracts you from doing what you have to do for yourself.

If you find nothing etched into your heart of stone, get a chisel and etch down some wisdom and knowledge.

And live it.

I hate to think that your entire life, the good and bad, trials and tribulations, was lived without learning anything.

If all you have to say is desert dwellers, forgeries, liars, etc. you might as well be farting on the Fourth of July.

No one will hear you.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yeah sure, its very simple to understand as long as you "just believe" and don't think about it. AT ALL. Damn.

God is the only living being in existence whose existence is absolute. God is incorporeal and has no visible shape or material form. He has no equal, and there is no other god in existence either above or below him. Any human being like Jesus, a Jewish man, who attributed his existence to God cannot be God. Now that's simple.

"The Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice"

"The Son of God" is just a relational metaphor that indicates a closeness and intimate knowledge of God above that of other prophets who were called "servants of God". "A servant does not know what his master is about."

Now this is what you have to deal with. You are an idolator who has perjured herself in the name of God and desecrates the teachings of Jesus. YOUR religious instructors who amount to talking serpents have deceived you whether they have made great errors in their speculations or whether they had been mislead themselves. So now "you have allowed satan to enter your mind" under the guise of "belief" to perpetuate flat out lies which amounts to intentional murder. Your narcissistic vanity and desire to be "a god" and rule your own planet one day is why YOU have been banished from heaven into the realm of the dead. Gehenna. Where is your faith?

There is no God but God. There never will be another. Not Jesus, the Holy ghost, not anyone. Certainly not you.

How is it that you don't know the right course to take?

All that is made up by you and the normalcy bias that has created a reprobate mind unable to realize the reality and truth of the prophets. Tell me, do you have “the book that is sealed” that is a “marvelous work and a wonder” that Isaiah said would be unhidden in the last days? Until you can produce that book, your knowledge and understanding is useless to you and others. Tell me, if your God is the only God who has always existed, the only entity, energy, intelligence, where did it come from?

 

[Cougarbear]

the content of the 4th century christian bible is unsubstantiated by any archival recordings used by them to publish their document.

the christian bible, all three desert bibles are forgeries ... in particular using false pretense for commandments claimed from the heavens that never existed and only a fraction of the misrepresentations made throughout those documents.

nothing new in your denials and accusatory deflections c-bear ...

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you and the other desert dwellers have been screaming your false religions for centuries -

provide the tablets claimed heavenly w/ their etchings or be relegated as a liar the same as moses and the desert bibles their true status as deliberate forgeries.

I’m acknowledging your claim about a 4th century book. Now show me your evidence other than your empty words that it’s not true. Where’s your proof? Because even science and archaeology continues to confirm even the resurrection. Where is your written proof and work? We are waiting. Until then, you have been smelled out for being a fraud.

 

[hobelim]

Tell me, do you have “the book that is sealed” that is a “marvelous work and a wonder” that Isaiah said would be unhidden in the last days?

Of course I do. So does everyone who owns a copy of the Old and New testament. In Revelation there is a scroll that has been sealed with seven seals preventing everyone from looking inside. In the gospel according to John there are exactly seven miracles. Do the math. Decipher the miracles and what was hidden will be revealed.

If you can't accept this fact it's just because you have been found by God to not be worthy of the resurrection.

Until you can produce that book, your knowledge and understanding is useless to you and others.

What I have done is openly reveal hidden teaching that has never seen or heard before that actually reflects Divine wisdom in this bible that has been read by billions of people for thousands and thousands of years.

Jesus saying "eat my flesh" was a direct reference to Kosher Law and a clear teaching that the subject of Kosher law is not about food, what goes into your mouth and out of your ass. The subject of flesh, according to Jesus, is teaching that goes into your mind and out of your mouth, whether clean or unclean. Ta da! A miracle!

Its more satisfying BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE than it is to pretend to believe in the vomit you spew daily.

Tell me, if your God is the only God who has always existed, the only entity, energy, intelligence, where did it come from?

If I were you I wouldn't be worried about where God came from. I would be worried about where YOU are going.

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course I do. So does everyone who owns a copy of the Old and New testament. In Revelation there is a scroll that has been sealed with seven seals preventing everyone from looking inside. In the gospel according to John there are exactly seven miracles. Do the math. Decipher the miracles and what was hidden will be revealed.

If you can't accept this fact it's just because you have been found by God to not be worthy of the resurrection.


What I have done is openly reveal hidden teaching that has never seen or heard before that actually reflects Divine wisdom in this bible that has been read by billions of people for thousands and thousands of years.

Jesus saying "eat my flesh" was a direct reference to Kosher Law and a clear teaching that the subject of Kosher law is not about food, what goes into your mouth and out of your ass. The subject of flesh, according to Jesus, is teaching that goes into your mind and out of your mouth, whether clean or unclean. Ta da! A miracle!

Its more satisfying BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE than it is to pretend to believe in the vomit you spew daily.





If I were you I wouldn't be worried about where God came from. I would be worried about where YOU are going.

That’s a really bad attempt. The “Bible” was not in the ground and sealed. It wasn’t widely distributed because of the lack of technology back for a thousand years until the printing press was invented. So, the Bible can’t be that book. Also, Isaiah 29 refers to an event when the book came out of the ground. Two individuals are mentioned. One was a scholar of ancient languages who could not read it. That destroys your theory. Second, was an unlearned person who was able to read or translate it. Joseph Smith was unlearned and not a scholar. The Bible doesn’t fit Isaiah 29. The Book of Mormon does, perfectly.

 

[hobelim]

The Bible doesn’t fit Isaiah 29.

Of course it does.

"I will give you hidden treasures, riches hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name."

"If you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it like hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God"

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure, buried in a field. The man who found it, BURIED IT AGAIN."

"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, so now many nations recoil at sight of him. And kings curl their lips in disgust; for they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts"

The Book of Mormon does, perfectly.

The Book of Mormon is the BS of a con man. Bread baked on human dung. Now go and keep dreaming about being the god of your very own planet. And some people don't believe in Divine condemnation. Imagine that!

Talk about a reprobate mind!

 

[Cougarbear]

Of course it does.

"I will give you hidden treasures, riches hoarded in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name."

"If you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it like hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God"

"The kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure, buried in a field. The man who found it, BURIED IT AGAIN."

"Time was when many were aghast at you, my people, so now many nations recoil at sight of him. And kings curl their lips in disgust; for they see what they had never been told and things unheard before fill their thoughts"


The Book of Mormon is the BS of a con man. Bread baked on human dung. Now go and keep dreaming about being the god of your very own planet. And some people don't believe in Divine condemnation. Imagine that!

Talk about a reprobate mind!

Let's talk about the concept of "hidden treasures." Was he prophesying about gold and precious metals? No. He was talking about spiritual things not yet written down by God's prophets. Share with us your thoughts on what the hidden treasure is. And, you can't use what is already known and use the word "treasure" again for that would be circular thinking.

Chapter 29 is clear that it isn't an idea of heaven. It's something that is written record buried and found. Then, taken to a learned man, a scholar, an expert on ancient languages. So no, it cannot be the kingdom of heaven. It has information about the kingdom of heaven and what it takes to get back there. And, if you are using a rabbi or scholar to get an answer, he cannot read it. You have to get it from an unlearned man. So, where and what are your men and writings? It's a MARVELOUS WORK. That is exactly what The Book of Mormon is It's also substantiated by Ezekiel 37 and the stick (book) of Joseph. So, what is your writings of Joseph? The New Testament is more of the stick or book of Judah.

Then, running to the "conman" nonsense is just a show of defeat. Such a bad weak argument. You just shut down the entire Bible since Moses killed an Egyptian and smote the rock for water. By your logic, a fallen Prophet. 6 prophets in the OT are said to have been killed by their friend (Israelites) for crimes against the majority. Jesus was said to have committed crimes as well and was killed by the house of his friends. So, your continued saturation of using "conmen" is just plain stupid now. Grow up.

 

[BreezeWood]

The tablets were hidden where most people never look. Be brave, "see what everyone else chooses not to see, out of fear or conformity or laziness". Look within to see if anything at all was etched into your heart of stone. Forget about what everyone else believes. It just distracts you from doing what you have to do for yourself.

If you find nothing etched into your heart of stone, get a chisel and etch down some wisdom and knowledge.

And live it.

I hate to think that your entire life, the good and bad, trials and tribulations, was lived without learning anything.

If all you have to say is desert dwellers, forgeries, liars, etc. you might as well be farting on the Fourth of July.

No one will hear you.

there are no commandments from the heavens of any kind etched into any living spirit their life is granted freely for them to live and control their own destiny as best they may.

beware the evils, triumph over them is the goal made from the heavens all that is required over time to free one's spirit to face judgement and if accomplished admission to the everlasting.

 

[ding]

You have a shit ton of evidence that many people from the beginning to this day worship Jesus as if he was God (incorporeal) who became flesh (material), which is an absurdity. Congratulations! That doesn't make it true.

What you have is a shit ton of evidence that you are running with a herd of gullible people that are not too swift.

24,000 written manuscripts and the first Christians say otherwise.

 

[ding]

Nonsense. What I have is a shit ton of evidence that the evolution of man has been influenced by "otherworldly beings", the very definition of aliens, as clearly recorded in the Bible you profess to believe is the word of God.

The overwhelming evidence that what I have provided is not a "conspiracy theory" lol is written black and white from the first to the last page of the Bible that has been in existence for many thousands of excruciating years.

People all over the world have been reporting visitations from "otherworldly beings", aliens, to this day.

Pssst!

In reality all that you have proven is that you don't believe what is written in the book you profess to believe in.

Nicely done! You're a real winner!

Let’s see this evidence.

 

[ding]

Right. Pft.

I point out the FACT that what you are actually doing at mass is idolatry and you are the one who avoids talking a stand on this truth and making it all about me by accusing me of everything from being an atheist, to an angry gay Jew, to a secular humanist, to a hate filled religious nutjob trying to subvert christianity with the TRUTH.

You make it all about me and then accuse me of being full of myself. You are a very crafty devil! But stupid.

The truth, the very truth, is that I have humbled myself, come down from heaven, to speak to the dead. Like you.

Spoken like a religious nutjob.

 

[BreezeWood]

24,000 written manuscripts and the first Christians say otherwise.

you deny the true 1st century events -

the repudiation of oppressive judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry fallacious heavenly personifications et al as the motivation for those events while eliciting support otherwise from the very crucifiers who in the 4th century mischaracterized those events opposite of what jesus and those others sought the true path to the heavens, liberation theology, self determination.

 

[ding]

you deny the true 1st century events -

the repudiation of oppressive judaism false commandments hereditary idolatry fallacious heavenly personifications et al as the motivation for those events while eliciting support otherwise from the very crucifiers who in the 4th century mischaracterized those events opposite of what jesus and those others sought the true path to the heavens, liberation theology, self determination.

I don’t believe in your conspiracy theory. What evidence do you have?

 

[hobelim]

So, your continued saturation of using "conmen" is just plain stupid now.

What is just plain stupid is that you have failed to understand the hard learned lessons of the past taught in the story of Adam and Eve intended to be understood by Hebrew children many thousands of years ago. Derp.

You fell for the same lie that beguiled Adam and Eve. A talking serpent, a con man, told you that you will be "like God" and rule your own planet one day, (after you die) lol. How stupid is that? Obviously you died the death and descended into hell, the realm of the dead, in the day you first set aside Divine Law and swallowed the bullshit of a conman, the forbidden fruit, a direct descendant of that ever elusive talking serpent of old, the Nachash.

Nachash in Hebrew is a noun and an adjective meaning snake, brazen, shiny one, and/or one who practices the magical arts, sorcery, what is now well known as brainwashing or mind control. The stars of the ancient world.

You may never realize this but your sin is as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field. But to this fact you remain oblivious so enjoy your irrational delusions. A temple, a choir, a god ruling your own planet, secret books, a mangod, a trinity, a restored church courtesy of Joseph Smith, lol, and every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird eager to strip the flesh off your broken bones for the rest of your pathetic life in hell.


Enjoy!

 

[hobelim]

24,000 written manuscripts and the first Christians say otherwise.

That's nothing. There are between 35 and 80 million books that say Pinocchio, a puppet, became a real boy. And, as it is written, when a naughty boy stays on Pleasure Island too long those donkey ears are there for life.

Can I get a hee haw? An oink oink? A moo moo? A quack quack? An ooh ooh ahh ahh?

 

[ding]

That's nothing. There are between 35 and 80 million books that say Pinocchio, a puppet, became a real boy.

And, as it is written, when a naughty boy stays on Pleasure Island too long those donkey ears are there for life.

Can I get a hee haw?

It’s not nothing. It’s evidence. Do you have any evidence for your alien conspiracy?

 

[ding]

Over 5 billion Bibles have been printed and distributed. All of them record otherworldly beings interacting people on earth.

So you claim with no evidence.

Why do you keep using otherworldly when you mean aliens?