Heartbeat act fails in Nebraska

If a fetus is going to be a human baby then why kill it? Imagine if someone cut down your tomato plants before the tomato formed and told you, "Oh, that's not a tomato, it's just a plant with a little bump on the end of the stem?"
Do you consider an egg a chick ?most people eat eggs but I don't know of anyone who would eat a baby chick. Let's keep making ridiculous comparisons, even though my chick and egg comparison is actually pretty good. The bottom line is abortion is a very serious, very personal decision that some women must deal with wether they want to or not. Do you feel comfortable making other people's life decisions for them because that's what you're asking the state to do.
 
You Stann were once a fertilized egg with all the DNA, potential and promise that you have become, a zygote, an embryo, a fetus. It required all those stages for you or any other human being on Earth to be a human being on Earth. Who among us has the authority to see at what precise point of human development, a 'person' exists?
You seem to have made your decision with regards to that, now please be courteous and allow other people, people you do not know or seem to care about make their own decisions. It's not a decision anyone else could make for you, especially a government entity that has no business in interfering with such personal matters.
 
Do you consider an egg a chick ?most people eat eggs but I don't know of anyone who would eat a baby chick. Let's keep making ridiculous comparisons, even though my chick and egg comparison is actually pretty good. The bottom line is abortion is a very serious, very personal decision that some women must deal with wether they want to or not. Do you feel comfortable making other people's life decisions for them because that's what you're asking the state to do.

I believe in the system we had that allowed for abortion due to rape, incest or the life of the mother. It seems to me that the people who want to kill unborn babies are alive and were allowed to be born and they're not bitching about that. Now, it we want to quibble about the proper time, maybe we should be permitted to abort someone who is 50.
 
You Stann were once a fertilized egg with all the DNA, potential and promise that you have become, a zygote, an embryo, a fetus. It required all those stages for you or any other human being on Earth to be a human being on Earth. Who among us has the authority to see at what precise point of human development, a 'person' exists?
One more point. My mother made her decision to create another person in this already overpopulated world. I am the entity inhabiting that physical form to experience life as an individual but and this is a very important but because most people in this world do not realize who or what they are. I am the entity that makes this physical form a " human being " . I do not know death firsthand, I am eternal. To experience death is the completion of our visit here. Physical forms are temporary, we are not. So the whole construct " humans " in this world have is based on a lie. Understandable to a degree because of the loss of memory we have in crossing the threshold between universes, exceptions to this rule are rare but I am one such spirit.
 
I believe in the system we had that allowed for abortion due to rape, incest or the life of the mother. It seems to me that the people who want to kill unborn babies are alive and were allowed to be born and they're not bitching about that. Now, it we want to quibble about the proper time, maybe we should be permitted to abort someone who is 50.
You're still talking crazy. That would make no sense.
 
You seem to have made your decision with regards to that, now please be courteous and allow other people, people you do not know or seem to care about make their own decisions. It's not a decision anyone else could make for you, especially a government entity that has no business in interfering with such personal matters.
So if you decide to starve your infant son or daughter or are cruelly abusing them or otherwise doing them harm, it should be your decision and I shouldn't intervene?
 
One more point. My mother made her decision to create another person in this already overpopulated world. I am the entity inhabiting that physical form to experience life as an individual but and this is a very important but because most people in this world do not realize who or what they are. I am the entity that makes this physical form a " human being " . I do not know death firsthand, I am eternal. To experience death is the completion of our visit here. Physical forms are temporary, we are not. So the whole construct " humans " in this world have is based on a lie. Understandable to a degree because of the loss of memory we have in crossing the threshold between universes, exceptions to this rule are rare but I am one such spirit.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with whether that unborn baby is a 'person'. I am so sorry that you feel there wasn't sufficient room for you here on Earth and hope you will rethink that. You are correct that you are a creation of God, a living soul, unique and different and important as a human being with your own special genius, talent, aptitude, instincts to either be a positive force here or one that is more destructive than useful/helpful. You are here for a reason and a purpose. But all that genius, talent, aptitude, instincts were assigned to your living soul as you were formed and grew and went through all the stages of human development within the womb as well as after your drew your first breath and since.
 
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with whether that unborn baby is a 'person'. I am so sorry that you feel there wasn't sufficient room for you here on Earth and hope you will rethink that. You are correct that you are a creation of God, a living soul, unique and different and important as a human being with your own special genius, talent, aptitude, instincts to either be a positive force here or one that is more destructive than useful/helpful. You are here for a reason and a purpose. But all that genius, talent, aptitude, instincts were assigned to your living soul as you were formed and grew and went through all the stages of human development within the womb as well as after your drew your first breath and since.
See that is a common misconception. A spirit cannot enter a body which is already occupied by another spirit. That first breathe of life is what allows us access to these physical life forms.
 
SCOTUS never said that and only 26 states even have statewide referendum. Notice it wasn't a demanded referendum vote in Nebraska, and I am sure the legislature in that RED state did not want it put to the people, either. Tennessee doesn't have ballot initiative referendum and I actually doubt a heartbeat bill would pass in this RED state. Do you think it would pass in Virginia?
No need, abortion with reasonable guardrails is already legal here and there has been no serious move that I am aware of to change that.
 
Today's so-called conservative republicans are already disingenuous; what you propose would only further prove that point. And in the end it serves no one any good.
Putting the abortion issue to rest for good and all by allowing a up or down vote would prove to me that they genuinely desire to win elections going forward.

Allowing the dems to win damn sure does nobody any good.
 
You seem to have made your decision with regards to that, now please be courteous and allow other people, people you do not know or seem to care about make their own decisions
If you wanted to shoot your neighbor, you psychopath, I would not allow you the courtesy of doing so without going to prison for murder.
 
My mother made her decision to create another person in this already overpopulated world.
You neomalthusian scum never have the gumption to get off this spinning ball first - you always want someone else to die for you.
 
You neomalthusian scum never have the gumption to get off this spinning ball first - you always want someone else to die for you.
Well if that person is a producer abortion does have a way of evening things out since it's a better than even chance that the aborted will be a net drain on society.
 
Skin is "tissue "

The baby in the womb is a LIVING ORGANISM.

"It" is fully HUMAN from conception to natural htdeath.

Besides, I don't believe I asked the opinion of an immoral lib.

I asked someone who is supposedly on "our" side but believes these humans don't quite qualify as worth the fight
It's human but not yet a person
 
I’m sure that’s news to people in any of 38 states where an unborn child is recognized as a separate victim in the murder of a pregnant woman.
Get your facts straight.

not all of those laws apply throughout the entire pregnancy from conception
 
I'll ask again...

Do you believe a baby can be killed and have its organs harvested up until the moment of birth?

The fact that only about 1% of all abortions have ever taken place after week 21 kind of answers that question doesn't it?
 
Get your facts straight.

not all of those laws apply throughout the entire pregnancy from conception
Thirty states apply the law from conception until birth and exclude language about stage of pregnancy or viability.

The “personhood” argument is simply a hedge used to devalue humans and their right to exist. And it’s a slippery slope.

If viability is the condition, is a one-month-old with Down Syndrome and failure to thrive a person? Is a man with dementia and no ability to care for himself a person?

You don’t have to make those calls when you believe every life has value.
 
Thirty states apply the law from conception until birth and exclude language about stage of pregnancy or viability.

The “personhood” argument is simply a hedge used to devalue humans and their right to exist. And it’s a slippery slope.

If viability is the condition, is a one-month-old with Down Syndrome and failure to thrive a person? Is a man with dementia and no ability to care for himself a person?

You don’t have to make those calls when you believe every life has value.
27 states from conception
9 states for only part of pregnancy

And abortion is still legal in some of those states so the only time it applies is when the pregnant woman is the victim of a crime.

What a woman does to her own body is never a crime.
 
Abortion is gonna sink the gop like the Titanic in '24.....Abortion....The gop's iceberg and the gift that keeps on giving for the dems.

I bet every statehouse in the land has gop members who paid for a abortion for a "mistake" they made along the line.

The gop better pull it's head out of it's ass.
The once libertarian-leaning, small-government GOP's flip to intrusive authoritarianism with its politicians dictating their ideological dogma to science, medicine, education, private enterprise, etc., is especially egregious in its abrogating personal freedom that had been respected for half-a-century.

Book banning, censorship of private communications, and disrespect for physician/patient confidentiality are signs of a disturbing retrogression.

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"We're watching you, Lady!"
 
The once libertarian-leaning, small-government GOP's flip to intrusive authoritarianism with its politicians dictating their ideological dogma to science, medicine, education, private enterprise, etc., is especially egregious in its abrogating personal freedom that had been respected for half-a-century.

Book banning, censorship of private communications, and disrespect for physician/patient confidentiality are signs of a disturbing retrogression.

"We're watching you, Lady!"
Most of these states that have banned abortions had trigger laws in place which will all eventually have be voted on by the people and we'll see many of these states laws overturned
 
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