A Republican Farmer Asks ‘Well, Who’s Going to Milk the Cows?’ When those Immigrants form Trump's Shithole Nations are thrown out.

Somebody should compare your IPs

Maybe in the same household...

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You do seem to be parroting each other with talking points that do not address the OP
dante its familiar to you because every one of your threads and replies are nothing but talking points that someone brought up...you are to stupid to think of your own...
 
It's all political. It's divisive and it is meant to be. What is? The Immigration Issue. Many Administrations and Congresses had ample opportunity over the last 50 years to address the issue. When one side seeks "comprehensive" reform of immigration policies, the fights begin. It's as if it's a team sport where nobody wants the other side to win.


[ For two decades, Tim O’Harrow, 79, the family patriarch, has tried to persuade politicians he has voted for and donated to — most of them Republican — that they need to fix the nation’s broken immigration system.

But Washington has failed to make any meaningful changes, and Republican voters continue to be anti-immigration, particularly those in Wisconsin, a swing state where 95 percent of Republicans support mass deportation, according to a recent poll by Marquette University Law School.

That has left the O’Harrows in an uncomfortable place — stuck between what they see as an obvious truth, that immigrants are essential to America’s food supply, and a national political mood hurtling in the other direction.

And now, after generations of feeling at home in the Republican Party, the O’Harrows feel politically homeless.

“I don’t know that I’m a Republican anymore,” Tim said. “I don’t know what we are anymore.” ]



Say, I just remembered how quite a number of leftards insisted that Trump was never going to deport the illegals, becasue as a rich man he wanted the cheap illegal labor.

And, they just didn't say that. They never just said that. THey would then insult all of us maga that believed that TRump would deport the illegals.


So, how about those libtards, who we now see were comopletely wrong, how about an apology for all those insults, and an admission that we were right to trust that Trump would deport those illegals.
 
Say, I just remembered how quite a number of leftards insisted that Trump was never going to deport the illegals, becasue as a rich man he wanted the cheap illegal labor.

And, they just didn't say that. They never just said that. THey would then insult all of us maga that believed that TRump would deport the illegals.


So, how about those libtards, who we now see were comopletely wrong, how about an apology for all those insults, and an admission that we were right to trust that Trump would deport those illegals.


What you remember is suspect
 
We could use the billions that we now spend to subsidize illegals and non workers to support the food industry. Or we could stop support for food production and create a shortage and punish people with high prices to force the narrative. Which path do you think they would take? "Comprehensive reform" means different things to different people.
 
Talk about RACISM.

Joe Biden claimed if you do not vote for him, YOU AINT BLACK.

That is RACIST AF.

First off, denying heritage and genetics based on politics, secondly, using “AINT” implying BLACKS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH PROPERLY.

Yet, no lefty cult cuck fcuks called out Biden for blatant RACISM…BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT POLITICS.
 
What you remember is suspect

Nope. I remember it clear as a bell.



All these supposedly smarter, more sophisticated libs, so certain, and so very rude, insulting us naive and trusting maga rubes.

Now you are whining that the illegals have been deported. Yet none of you are admitting that you were wrong, when you called us stupid dupes for thinking that Trump was going to deport the illegals.


See, there is something important to be learnd from this.


If liberals were sincere in the shit they say, then when there were WRONG like that, it would be a shock to them.

The libs that attacked us for that, they were SOOOOOO CERTAIN, that they saw the world more clearly than us stupid and racist maga.


The demolishing of that certitude, to someone that was sincere, would be utterly shocking.

Trump was telling the truth. THe mage dupes were RIGHT and the college educated liberals were WRONG.


The libs should be all over this, trying to come to grips with it, to learn what it means.


Even if they didn't have the decency to APOLOGIZE, they would want to understand how they could have been so mistaken about what was going to happen.


Yet, instead, there is not a single whimper from any of them, ANY of them.


What that reveals, is that they were SHIT TALKING when they said, it, and that they KNEW they were shit talking.


That is the only explanation as to why there is not shock or confusion from the lefties on this issue.


Becasue they did not say that shit becasue they believed it, they said it to try to undemine a policy they opposed.


That they turned out to be wrong is irrelevant to them. Their shit talk served it's purpose at the time, of providing push back.

Today, they have moved on to fresh shit talk.

If today's shit talk is proven to be complete retarded nonsense in time, they don't care about that either.


Because by then, they will have moved on to next shit talk.


ALL THAT LIBERALS SAY, SHOULD BE TREATED WITH AS MUCH RESPECT AS THEY HAVE FOR THEIR OWN WORDS,


IE ZERO.
 
Nope. I remember it clear as a bell.



All these supposedly smarter, more sophisticated libs, so certain, and so very rude, insulting us naive and trusting maga rubes.

Now you are whining that the illegals have been deported. Yet none of you are admitting that you were wrong, when you called us stupid dupes for thinking that Trump was going to deport the illegals.


See, there is something important to be learnd from this.


If liberals were sincere in the shit they say, then when there were WRONG like that, it would be a shock to them.

The libs that attacked us for that, they were SOOOOOO CERTAIN, that they saw the world more clearly than us stupid and racist maga.


The demolishing of that certitude, to someone that was sincere, would be utterly shocking.

Trump was telling the truth. THe mage dupes were RIGHT and the college educated liberals were WRONG.


The libs should be all over this, trying to come to grips with it, to learn what it means.


Even if they didn't have the decency to APOLOGIZE, they would want to understand how they could have been so mistaken about what was going to happen.


Yet, instead, there is not a single whimper from any of them, ANY of them.


What that reveals, is that they were SHIT TALKING when they said, it, and that they KNEW they were shit talking.


That is the only explanation as to why there is not shock or confusion from the lefties on this issue.


Becasue they did not say that shit becasue they believed it, they said it to try to undemine a policy they opposed.


That they turned out to be wrong is irrelevant to them. Their shit talk served it's purpose at the time, of providing push back.

Today, they have moved on to fresh shit talk.

If today's shit talk is proven to be complete retarded nonsense in time, they don't care about that either.


Because by then, they will have moved on to next shit talk.


ALL THAT LIBERALS SAY, SHOULD BE TREATED WITH AS MUCH RESPECT AS THEY HAVE FOR THEIR OWN WORDS,


IE ZERO.
SO you claim that you "just remembered how quite a number of leftards insisted that Trump was never going to deport the illegals, because as a rich man he wanted the cheap illegal labor," as if that is relevant yo things -- what a few people say? Like those few people are representative of what exactly?
 
Talk about RACISM.

Joe Biden claimed if you do not vote for him, YOU AINT BLACK.

That is RACIST AF.

First off, denying heritage and genetics based on politics, secondly, using “AINT” implying BLACKS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH PROPERLY.

Yet, no lefty cult cuck fcuks called out Biden for blatant RACISM…BECAUSE IT IS ALL ABOUT POLITICS.
YAwn, what is it with you people?

Joe Biden had his peculiarities, but he was no racist
 
We could use the billions that we now spend to subsidize illegals and non workers to support the food industry. Or we could stop support for food production and create a shortage and punish people with high prices to force the narrative. Which path do you think they would take? "Comprehensive reform" means different things to different people.
What billions do we spend to subsidize illegals?

:laughing0301:

Good gawd, I can't believe people like you get to vote
 
SO you claim that you "just remembered how quite a number of leftards insisted that Trump was never going to deport the illegals, because as a rich man he wanted the cheap illegal labor," as if that is relevant yo things -- what a few people say? Like those few people are representative of what exactly?

I explained my point clearly.

They made a prediction based on their world view.

We now see that it was completely wrong.


They, instead of being shocked by being wrong, and MAGA being right, have just happily moved on to next attack.


This shows that they were never actually invested in their previous words and claims.


Which raises the question of how serious are they about the shit they are pushing TODAY.


It is a reasonable point. If you deny it, please explain why.

If you play dumb to dodge the point, then you are engaged in a similar behavior of not being sincere in your words or beliefs.
 
Again, you are trolling and not responding to the story/news item.

When you people get stuck-on-stupid, it's like superglue on fingers and thumb.

maybe revisit starting @ the OP:


On the farms themselves, the question of status is complicated. The O’Harrows have an I-9 federal work form filled out for every person on their staff, as called for by federal law. The form requires work authorization and identity documents, which can include a Social Security card and a driver’s license.

But workers can buy such documents on the black market. And while some states, like Wisconsin, do not issue driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants, others, like neighboring Minnesota and Illinois, do, and employers can legally accept them.

Federal rules do not require farmers to be immigration sleuths. If an applicant’s documents “reasonably appear to be genuine,” the rules say, then they should be accepted. And penalties can be imposed if employers reject an applicant or their documents on the basis of a foreign-sounding name or accent.

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Tim added cows, but soon had difficulty finding enough workers to care for them. It was hard and repetitive work, with long shifts that started before dawn, including on weekends. No one wanted to do it for what he could afford to pay, which at the time was several dollars above minimum wage. He hired students, single men, working mothers, people from a prison probation program.

“They would call five minutes before milking time, and say, ‘I’m not going to make it,’” Tim said. “Well, who’s going to milk the cows? We’re trying to run a business. It just wasn’t working.”

In 1999, the farm’s head herdsman went to a meeting about the labor problem. One dairyman recommended Mexican workers.



“He said, ‘Don’t talk about it, just do it,’” Tim recalled.

Eight days later, two workers signed on. The O’Harrows never looked back.

I am on topic

If Tim the farmer really exists he’s a tightwad who doesnt want to pay his workers squat

And illegals work the cheapest
 
I am on topic

If Tim the farmer really exists he’s a tightwad who doesnt want to pay his workers squat

And illegals work the cheapest
Margins at dairy farms are not huge. He can’t increase his wages much because that’ll quickly put the operation into the red.

He can’t just raise the price of milk.
 
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Again, you ignore the OP and the article:

Tim added cows, but soon had difficulty finding enough workers to care for them. It was hard and repetitive work, with long shifts that started before dawn, including on weekends. No one wanted to do it for what he could afford to pay, which at the time was several dollars above minimum wage. He hired students, single men, working mothers, people from a prison probation program.

“They would call five minutes before milking time, and say, ‘I’m not going to make it,’” Tim said. “Well, who’s going to milk the cows? We’re trying to run a business. It just wasn’t working.”

In 1999, the farm’s head herdsman went to a meeting about the labor problem. One dairyman recommended Mexican workers.
Tim is lazy AND cheap

The H2a program only allows seasonal workers

So he should apply using the H2b program
 
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