Did I mention that you're also nearly as boring as booboo??
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Did I mention that you're also nearly as boring as booboo??
I think that you would need to be a multi-billionare, because if you have anything that is catastrophic it will bankrupt you.
I do not want a single payer system and I most certainly do not want a government run system. Rush is going over this plan as we speak on the radio and he makes sense. The problem with our healthcare now is medicaid and medicare, Americans don't have to price shop for services to keep procedures competitive because the government is involved and pays for everything anyway, so essentially there is no competition to keep costs down. Americans who either choose not to get health insurance or can't afford it simply go to the emergency rooms for treatment and they get the bill paid by the rest of us in increased insurance premiums, that includes paying for illegals.
This problem can be fixed but everyone and I mean everyone is going to have to pay for health insurance, this will not be a free ride for anyone. That way there will be competition for both medical procedures and health insurance. There must be a small business plan that all small business'e can join, over 80% of Americans are employed by small business yet there is no plan that they can join. That's ridiculous.
The government can not run it's own stuff, just look at Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security- they will screw this up royally. Just talk to anyone that comes from a nationalized health insurance country.
3 year waiting list for catarack removal.
5 years for hip or knee replacement.
Breast cancer in the Uk- they can't afford to pay for the meds. If fact, if you have cancer you might as well go home and die. Hopefully, you will be wealthy enough, like the previous poster thinks he is, that you can afford to come to the U.S for the treatment, otherwise you are toast.
This can be fixed other ways, it does not require those idiots in Washington to do this. Can you imagine a Nancy Pelosi telling you when it's okay for you to do a life saving treatment???? If this passes that's exactly what's going to happen and we will all pay and pay dearly with increases in taxes and a much, much lower standard of care. Write or call your congressmen and senators and tell them an emphatic NO WAY.
Irrelevant to the fact that they're grossly inefficient, corrupt, and cost more than threefold what they were projected to.Except that most people aren't eligible for medicare or medicaid. Whoops, there goes that theory.
Irrelevant to the fact that they're grossly inefficient, corrupt, and cost more than threefold what they were projected to.Except that most people aren't eligible for medicare or medicaid. Whoops, there goes that theory.
Whoops, there goes that lefty wingnut talking point.
I don't want nor need healthcare insurance. I pay all my medical expenses in cash. So you can take your health insurance and stick it up Obama's ass.
Soooo....Now the cat's out of the bag!!I guess you're lucky that neither you, your wife, or kids never had to face a life threatening illness. I have though. My wife died from leukemia and I have health issues that could shorten my life considerably without the proper care. But as I said before, until it effects you personally, it's no big deal, because again, you completely lack any vision.
Had one of your kids been diagnosed with leukemia, and you been denied treatment for them, tell me you would have been just fine with them dying. Your so full of shit it's coming out every orifice of your body.
There is in fact something in it for you to live at the expense of everyone else.
Ideological indeed.
What you are proposing DOES affect other people personally, since what you are proposing is to take their property by force (stealing) to alleviate your suffering. It's the same rational that the Bush Administration used to justify the murder of innocent Iraqi civilians... to whit "It's 'collateral damage' and serves the 'greater good'.I guess you're lucky that neither you, your wife, or kids never had to face a life threatening illness. I have though. My wife died from leukemia and I have health issues that could shorten my life considerably without the proper care. But as I said before, until it effects you personally, it's no big deal, because again, you completely lack any vision.
There is absolutely no altruism in attempting to justify theft just as there is no altruism in attempting to justify murder, doesn't matter whether a majority voted for the idiots that are proposing to do it or not.
If I get any type of cancer, then I'll probably die. But hey, we're not meant to live forever. Health insurance is a scam and you're an idiot for not realizing it. I raised three kids to the age of majority without health insurance, I came from humble beginnings after dropping out of school at 15 and spending almost three years in a Texas state prison, I've done pretty damn well for myself and I don't need you nor the govt. telling me what the fuck I need. And your comment was as worthless as tits on a boar hog, but thanks for playing!
I guess you're lucky that neither you, your wife, or kids never had to face a life threatening illness. I have though. My wife died from leukemia and I have health issues that could shorten my life considerably without the proper care. But as I said before, until it effects you personally, it's no big deal, because again, you completely lack any vision.
Had one of your kids been diagnosed with leukemia, and you been denied treatment for them, tell me you would have been just fine with them dying. Your so full of shit it's coming out every orifice of your body.
My wife died giving birth to my third child.
Health insurance does not guarantee a long life. If one of my children had come down with a life threatening illness then I would seek medical attention and I would pay my bill in full with cash or utilizing a payment plan. One thing you fail to realize is that in a life threatening situation you will not be turned away from any emergency room in these United States regardless of insurance. It's against the law!! I should know better than to present you with facts. I know how facts confuse people of your ilk.
I find it very ironic that so many people continue to support the failed system of insurance companies when it comes to our healthcare. A single payer plan, by all means makes the most sense. The whole point is that the insurance industry is just the middle man making huge profits at the expense of both the consumer and the providers.
However, there is another idea. We could allow hospitals and doctors to set up their own networks, providing their own plans that would compete with the insurance companies. Doctors would need to network with certain hospitals, but many already do this. There are some troubles with such a plan, but nothing that can't be worked out. For instance, these networks would also have to include drug plans, and they would have to work out a system of payment for out of network treatment in cases where people are traveling or find themselves in an emergency situation outside of the network.
The government could put everyone on a level playing field by ending the discrimination that exists in pricing by removing group discounts and by making it mandatory for everyone to be accepted that wants to purchase a network plan.
The biggest benefit would be that the middle man would be removed, and most of those costs would be removed. Lastly, there would be some real direct competetion for services, at least in the metropolitan areas.
I keep hearing about these huge profits health insurance companies are making but from looking at annual reports from a few large health insurance companies I found that profits were less than 3% of total revenues, premiums plus return on investments, in 2007 and most lost money in 2008 because of the falling stock market. This raises the question: if the insurance companies are only keeping 3% of revenues, why would anyone think a government run insurance company would be able to deliver much more bang for the buck? Would a 3% reduction in your premium really make that much difference in your life?
I'd be interested in seeing any other statistics regarding profits as a percentage of revenues anyone else has.
The first clause of Article I, Section 8, reads, "The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States." This clause, called the General Welfare Clause or the Spending Power Clause, does not grant Congress the power to legislate for the general welfare of the country; that is a power reserved to the states through the Tenth Amendment. Rather, it merely allows Congress to spend federal money for the general welfare. The principle underlying this distinctionthe limitation of federal powereventually inspired the only important disagreement over the meaning of the clause.
In United States v. Butler, 56 S. Ct. 312, 297 U.S. 1, 80 L. Ed. 477 (1936), the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated a federal agricultural spending program because a specific congressional power over agricultural production appeared nowhere in the Constitution
General Welfare legal definition of General Welfare. General Welfare synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.
You mean that one Dude? I've seen it used quite a bit, there is actually a SCOTUS decision though on healthcare "rights" granted to prisoners though.
Under the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution, it has been determined
that prisoners (or inmates) have a constitutional right to adequate health care.1 Texas has
codified societys requirement to give care to its incarcerated persons, and requires state prisons
to provide health care.2 Under the final HIPAA Privacy rule, identifiable health information
pertaining to inmates has been deemed protected health information, called PHI. Although
excepted in the preliminary rule, the final Privacy Rule protects inmates PHI.3 This protection is
further broadened by the loose definition afforded to inmates.
http://www.law.uh.edu/healthlaw/perspectives/Privacy/030128HIPAAs.pdf
How do you figure that? rates are based on risk, that's the name of the game in Insurance if they didn't run their business that way they'd be out of the insurance business. Do you expect them to run their business at a loss? Now on the other hand if an Insurance company violates it's contractual agreement with a customer then of course the customer has the right to seek renumeration. So the "rules" are established according to the contract between the willing insurer and the willing insuree using mutually agreed upon terms. If said terms aren't acceptable to either party they should be free not to do business with one another, if you're the buyer that means you can find an alternative provider,self insure or go without coverage.Actually the way the system is set up, it is such that discrimination can take place against those who become sick. Insurance is meant as a risk pool to cover all paying members. Raising the rates of that insurance on anyone who becomes sick after the fact is the real theft. It's changing the rules in the middle of the game to suit those who will benefit most. That is the real theft, so basically you are stealing from me.
How do you figure that I want to steal from you? if you are a higher risk it SHOULD cost you more for insurance. I've made it pretty clear I don't want anything from you or my fellow citizens ('cept that you respect my rights and my property of course), I'm perfectly willing to pull my own weight, furthermore I am willing to stand up for your rights as a fellow citizen if anyone else (including the gub'ment) attempts to take what's rightfully yours by force.I'm not referring to those who choose not to buy insurance and then become sick. I'm referring to those who purchase insurance, and then due to becoming sick are forced to pay more for their care than everyone else. That is real theft and it is discriminatory and is at the core of my issue with this entire mess. So if you want to steal from me, that just proves my point.
Irrelevant to the fact that they're grossly inefficient, corrupt, and cost more than threefold what they were projected to.Except that most people aren't eligible for medicare or medicaid. Whoops, there goes that theory.
Whoops, there goes that lefty wingnut talking point.
I think that you would need to be a multi-billionare, because if you have anything that is catastrophic it will bankrupt you.
I do not want a single payer system and I most certainly do not want a government run system. Rush is going over this plan as we speak on the radio and he makes sense. The problem with our healthcare now is medicaid and medicare, Americans don't have to price shop for services to keep procedures competitive because the government is involved and pays for everything anyway, so essentially there is no competition to keep costs down. Americans who either choose not to get health insurance or can't afford it simply go to the emergency rooms for treatment and they get the bill paid by the rest of us in increased insurance premiums, that includes paying for illegals.
This problem can be fixed but everyone and I mean everyone is going to have to pay for health insurance, this will not be a free ride for anyone. That way there will be competition for both medical procedures and health insurance. There must be a small business plan that all small business'e can join, over 80% of Americans are employed by small business yet there is no plan that they can join. That's ridiculous.
The government can not run it's own stuff, just look at Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security- they will screw this up royally. Just talk to anyone that comes from a nationalized health insurance country.
3 year waiting list for catarack removal.
5 years for hip or knee replacement.
Breast cancer in the Uk- they can't afford to pay for the meds. If fact, if you have cancer you might as well go home and die. Hopefully, you will be wealthy enough, like the previous poster thinks he is, that you can afford to come to the U.S for the treatment, otherwise you are toast.
This can be fixed other ways, it does not require those idiots in Washington to do this. Can you imagine a Nancy Pelosi telling you when it's okay for you to do a life saving treatment???? If this passes that's exactly what's going to happen and we will all pay and pay dearly with increases in taxes and a much, much lower standard of care. Write or call your congressmen and senators and tell them an emphatic NO WAY.
HORSE SHIT
You can go on the all butter diet, smoke 6 packs a day, live in a filthy house with mold and insects everywhere... your health has a LOT with the choices you make and the actions you take
But nice try
How do you figure that? rates are based on risk, that's the name of the game in Insurance if they didn't run their business that way they'd be out of the insurance business. Do you expect them to run their business at a loss? Now on the other hand if an Insurance company violates it's contractual agreement with a customer then of course the customer has the right to seek renumeration. So the "rules" are established according to the contract between the willing insurer and the willing insuree using mutually agreed upon terms. If said terms aren't acceptable to either party they should be free not to do business with one another, if you're the buyer that means you can find an alternative provider,self insure or go without coverage.Actually the way the system is set up, it is such that discrimination can take place against those who become sick. Insurance is meant as a risk pool to cover all paying members. Raising the rates of that insurance on anyone who becomes sick after the fact is the real theft. It's changing the rules in the middle of the game to suit those who will benefit most. That is the real theft, so basically you are stealing from me.
How do you figure that I want to steal from you? if you are a higher risk it SHOULD cost you more for insurance. I've made it pretty clear I don't want anything from you or my fellow citizens ('cept that you respect my rights and my property of course), I'm perfectly willing to pull my own weight, furthermore I am willing to stand up for your rights as a fellow citizen if anyone else (including the gub'ment) attempts to take what's rightfully yours by force.I'm not referring to those who choose not to buy insurance and then become sick. I'm referring to those who purchase insurance, and then due to becoming sick are forced to pay more for their care than everyone else. That is real theft and it is discriminatory and is at the core of my issue with this entire mess. So if you want to steal from me, that just proves my point.