pknopp
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begging him to get off because there was something wrong with Floyd. All officers are mentioned but there is a plain reason why it's Floyd that gets the most attention. It's not some big media conspiracy.
Even if Floyd was a murderer a police officer can't do what Floyd did so whether he believed he did drugs or not is irrelevant.
Opioids and related synthetics can literally paralyze a person's diaphragm. Thus making it nearly impossible for them to breathe. Sure there are other core muscle groups that can help, most notably, the intercostal skeletal muscles, but they very quickly fatigue under strain compared to smooth muscles, especially if the rig cage is being squeezed. It has a ratcheting effect. This fact is practically universally taught to first responders, including law enforcement officers.
Therefore, whether or not Chauvin believed that Floyd was a junkie is very relevant to the case, because if he knew, or should have known, that Floyd was an addict, it is evidence of premeditation and/or negligence.
Whether or not the prosecutors could suppress that evidence from being presented to the jury is up to judicial discretion.
And your insinuation that the leftstream media isn't pushing a narrative that it was racially motivated murder is just stupid.
The kneeling on the neck of a suspect is being banned all around the country. Not even those who once supported it are still supporting it.
Right, and the more you make it harder and harder for police to do their job, the more police are simply not going to do their job.
No, they are making it harder on themselves. The more they defend things that are not defensible, the more the push back will be.
We're seeing that right now across the country. Police are simply disappearing, and crime and murder are out of control.
The idea that we can either have police that will on occasionally needlessly kill someone and we have to allow that or no police is complete hyperbole.
No, it's fact. You are the one engaging in hyperbole.
Because I post the facts. We know the ferguson effect is real. We know that police departments across the entire country are all facing personnel shortages.
We know that 200 plus officers in Minneapolis have walked off the jobs.
Minneapolis Police Experience Surge of Departures in Aftermath of George Floyd Protests (Published 2020)
The retention and recruitment problems that many police departments have experienced in recent years are especially pronounced after four Minneapolis officers were charged with Mr. Floyd’s death.www.nytimes.com
We know that there is a critical shortage of officers in California.
South valley police academy sees decline in enrollment, shortage of officers nationwide
According to the Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics, in many large cities, including Los Angeles and San Jose, there are now fewer officers per citizen than ten years ago.abc30.com
And that was BEFORE all this started happening.
No, they are making it harder on themselves. The more they defend things that are not defensible, the more the push back will be.
What are you even talking about? They are not defending anything. They are simply LEAVING.
Critical shortages are popping up everywhere left-wingers have attacked the police.
They are not defending anything... they are quitting. You can defend your own self.
And that is exactly what is happening.
Crime is surging in US cities. Some say defunding the police will actually make it fall | CNN
Some elected officials say the recent surge in gun violence across the US is a case for bigger police budgets. But supporters of defunding law enforcement argue this moment is actually proof that the US doesn't need more police.www.cnn.com
All across the country, in left-wing areas, crime is spiking out of control, and the police are simply not showing up until it's over. The police sit on the farthest side of town they can, wait for the 911 call, and then show up long after the bodies are cold, and the murderers are gone.
Why? Because better to not confront a criminal, than do so, and go to prison if he gets hurt.
You can say I'm engaging in hyperbole, but I have all the facts, and all the evidence, on my side. I just posted proof of everything I claimed.
So go ahead... keep "pushing back" against police. See how that's working for you.
The ones leaving should be leaving. They are arguing that if we are going to actually hole them responsible for violating the rights of individuals they will just quit. Great, quit. Then the cities can re-examine the needs of the force and train people to respect the individual rights of people.
you are clueless. The result of your program is the imposition of CRIMINALS on the population. I happen to know
Whatever. Your choice. Reform or no police I guess.
Your choice. I'm not in this fight. My suburb loves our police, and we love having them around. We have sent letters and gifts to our officers to let them know that in no uncertain terms, that we the public are backing them.
Our police are not leave.
Those police in your Democrat run, riot and looting supporting cities.........
Those are the police that are leaving. Not ours. We're fine.
Our police in right-wing areas... they are not leave. YOUR police are the ones leaving.
So you decide how this goes. More dead democrats, and black people, or not?
Do you want a police force? Or do you want to cram your BLM nonsense down their throats, and not a have police force? Those are the options for YOU, not us.
We're good.
If you don't have any problems with the violations of people's civil rights in your town, great.