- Jan 23, 2014
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- Central Ohio
Sure, you can argue about that if you want. What you can't argue about, is the attempts to defund the police, and the rise is mass crime."Some", "could have". It's as easy to argue the opposite using vague generalizations.Again, look at the evidence. Your side is killing people. You keep responding with opinion, and I keep pointing to the facts.That's right. I have no idea why the idea of the police not being able to violate people's rights are so controversial.Whatever excuse you want to give.If you don't have any problems with the violations of people's civil rights in your town, great.Your choice. I'm not in this fight. My suburb loves our police, and we love having them around. We have sent letters and gifts to our officers to let them know that in no uncertain terms, that we the public are backing them.Whatever. Your choice. Reform or no police I guess.you are clueless. The result of your program is the imposition of CRIMINALS on the population. I happen to knowThe ones leaving should be leaving. They are arguing that if we are going to actually hole them responsible for violating the rights of individuals they will just quit. Great, quit. Then the cities can re-examine the needs of the force and train people to respect the individual rights of people.No, it's fact. You are the one engaging in hyperbole.No, they are making it harder on themselves. The more they defend things that are not defensible, the more the push back will be.Right, and the more you make it harder and harder for police to do their job, the more police are simply not going to do their job.The kneeling on the neck of a suspect is being banned all around the country. Not even those who once supported it are still supporting it.begging him to get off because there was something wrong with Floyd. All officers are mentioned but there is a plain reason why it's Floyd that gets the most attention. It's not some big media conspiracy.
Even if Floyd was a murderer a police officer can't do what Floyd did so whether he believed he did drugs or not is irrelevant.
Opioids and related synthetics can literally paralyze a person's diaphragm. Thus making it nearly impossible for them to breathe. Sure there are other core muscle groups that can help, most notably, the intercostal skeletal muscles, but they very quickly fatigue under strain compared to smooth muscles, especially if the rig cage is being squeezed. It has a ratcheting effect. This fact is practically universally taught to first responders, including law enforcement officers.
Therefore, whether or not Chauvin believed that Floyd was a junkie is very relevant to the case, because if he knew, or should have known, that Floyd was an addict, it is evidence of premeditation and/or negligence.
Whether or not the prosecutors could suppress that evidence from being presented to the jury is up to judicial discretion.
And your insinuation that the leftstream media isn't pushing a narrative that it was racially motivated murder is just stupid.
The idea that we can either have police that will on occasionally needlessly kill someone and we have to allow that or no police is complete hyperbole.We're seeing that right now across the country. Police are simply disappearing, and crime and murder are out of control.
Because I post the facts. We know the ferguson effect is real. We know that police departments across the entire country are all facing personnel shortages.
We know that 200 plus officers in Minneapolis have walked off the jobs.
The retention and recruitment problems that many police departments have experienced in recent years are especially pronounced after four Minneapolis officers were charged with Mr. Floyd’s death.www.nytimes.com
We know that there is a critical shortage of officers in California.
According to the Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics, in many large cities, including Los Angeles and San Jose, there are now fewer officers per citizen than ten years ago.abc30.com
And that was BEFORE all this started happening.
No, they are making it harder on themselves. The more they defend things that are not defensible, the more the push back will be.
What are you even talking about? They are not defending anything. They are simply LEAVING.
Critical shortages are popping up everywhere left-wingers have attacked the police.
They are not defending anything... they are quitting. You can defend your own self.
And that is exactly what is happening.
Some elected officials say the recent surge in gun violence across the US is a case for bigger police budgets. But supporters of defunding law enforcement argue this moment is actually proof that the US doesn't need more police.www.cnn.com
All across the country, in left-wing areas, crime is spiking out of control, and the police are simply not showing up until it's over. The police sit on the farthest side of town they can, wait for the 911 call, and then show up long after the bodies are cold, and the murderers are gone.
Why? Because better to not confront a criminal, than do so, and go to prison if he gets hurt.
You can say I'm engaging in hyperbole, but I have all the facts, and all the evidence, on my side. I just posted proof of everything I claimed.
So go ahead... keep "pushing back" against police. See how that's working for you.
Our police are not leave.
Those police in your Democrat run, riot and looting supporting cities.........
Those are the police that are leaving. Not ours. We're fine.
Our police in right-wing areas... they are not leave. YOUR police are the ones leaving.
So you decide how this goes. More dead democrats, and black people, or not?
Do you want a police force? Or do you want to cram your BLM nonsense down their throats, and not a have police force? Those are the options for YOU, not us.
If you want to talk about violations of people's rights, about about the police in Minneapolis telling residents to "Be prepared to be robbed".
You tell me which system is better.
.There have been 2,170 stolen vehicles so far this year - a 46% increase compared to last year, according to Minneapolis Police Department crime data.minnesota.cbslocal.com
The Minneapolis Police department says that residents of the city should "be prepared" to hand over their phones, wallets and purses to robbers.alphanewsmn.comOfficials are now telling residents to be ready and willing to comply with the demands of criminals in an email sent to Third Precinct residents.
We're not coming. The criminals are going to rob you and abuse you.... so just hand over everything you have.
But at least police are not violating civil rights.... right? That right there above... is that a victory in your world? Because that is the result. So you tell me, which is better.
Keep talking, and I'll keep posting proof.
How many people have to die, before you figure out your presupposition on this is wrong?
Murders are up in big cities this summer. Here are seven possible reasons why.www.vox.com
Some experts have cited the protests over the police killings of George Floyd and others — which could’ve had a range of effects, from officers pulling back from their duties
Keep going dude. You are winning the battle. Police are pulling back, and hundreds are dying. Good job.