Has Fascism come to America?

Concerned American said:
Still have to buy powder and they are using the same tactics on powder as ammo in general. Plus the price of HS powder. $42 - $47 a pound, c'mon man.
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I've bought three unopened pounds of powder at one flea market this month, for $20 per pound. The IMR 4227 retails for about $70. Picked up 2,000 large rifle primers for $40 two weeks ago too. The deals are out there, you just have to scour the flea markets and estate sales.
 
Coyote said:
What Is Fascism?

According to this source there are 5 stages of Fascism.

Stage 1: Emerging out of disillusionment

Covid lockdowns, economic downturn and supply chain meltdowns, inflation, political instability (false claims of 2020 election fraud), etc.

Economic crisis spurs a nationalist political movement blaming immigrants and ethnic minorities for the country’s turmoil.


Stage 2: Establishing Legitimacy as a Political Party

The Trumpification of the Republican Party


Popular mobilization

… fascist regimes seek to energize public participation in society through government-organized channels. Both Mussolini and Hitler, for instance, drew massive crowds in rallies intended to stir up enthusiasm for the country, the party, and the leader.

Trump has the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers as his “Blackshirts” – fascist citizen militias loyal to Trump. Trump has also pardoned them from any crimes or violence on his behalf and made it clear his DoJ will not prosecute them for anything in the future . In addition to those more organized militias he has a fervent and large core of MAGA followers willing to commit populist violence on his behalf. January 6 is the defining moment for the movement.

Of note, like Mussolini’s Fascism – Trump’s fascist militants have skirmished with groups like ANTIFA, and leftist protestors (labeled socialists and Marxists) protesting his policies.

Like other Fascist groups, the MAGA movement also blames specific groups for the country’s seeming demise and undermining efforts to make America Great AGAIN.

Immigrants (not just illegal immigrants), Black People, DEI, Transgender people.
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We had false claims of "Russian Collusion" stealing the 2016 election from S'Hillary Clinton coming from the Left Wingnut socialist/communist DemocRATs.

Covid was intentionally released upon the world by CCP China.

Trump is leading back to foundational principles of: Life, Liberty, Prosperity

Obama*-Bidern(Harris) had their 'Blackshirts in form of AntiFa (many who dress in full black, with helmets, shields), and clubs for their "peaceful protests") and BLM who engaged in months long insurrection, secession("Autonomous Zones" of occupation) and sedition during Summer of 2020.

"January 6 (2021) was a few hours of 'riot' in one building in one city by a few hundred, hence a drop in the bucket compared to the months long insurrections, riots, looting, arsons, illegal trespasses, assaults and murders, and other mayhem that was done by hundreds of thousands** in nearly a hundred USA cities, during Summer 2020. They then lie trying to claim these were "peaceful protests".

The Left/DemocRATs blame business, including small businesses, for profit enterprise, Capitalism, White Males, Western Culture, and Judeo-Christian religions for blocking their "fundamental change"(Obama campaign pledge) for America (USA)~ into a model Marxist nation.

Why does the Fascist Left not want America to be Great?

Why does the Fascist Left think America should be the world's ATM and toilet for their unwanted criminal types?

This "MAGA" is proud to have immigrant family from Poland to my West, immigrant family from Mexico to my East, immigrant family from India top my North, as LEGAL immigrants and citizens.

This "MAGA" has two sons who are one-quarter Black.

"DEI" really stands for Divisive-Exclusionary-Immoral.

Transgenders have severe mental illness and/or biological deformity and need psychiatric/medical treatment.

* = Classic Obama statement, paraphrased; "I have a pen and a phone, who needs (to work with) Congress?
** = mostly college students and instructors it would appear
 
Coyote said:
Why yes. It has. MAGA!

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.


Source: What Is Fascism?

“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies that support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.

In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary in nature. They advocate for the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, such regimes are also highly conservative in their championing of traditional values.

And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality, their regimes often align with powerful business interests.”


Sound familiar? It should.

Existing forms of government are being overthrown through the destruction of our institutions with the Executive usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked.

Note the last line: aligned with powerful business interests: Musk (who is raking in millions in government contracts), Bezos, Zuckerberg.


Characteristics of Facism:

Extreme Nationalism - check.

Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality.


Cult of personality - check.

Fascist regimes cultivate images of their leaders as great figures to be loved and admired. This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda. …The Pope chalked up Il Duce’s survival of assassination attempts to divine intervention, adding to Mussolini’s mystique.


How did Fascists come to power? This is interesting, because it tracks what has actually been happening.

“It wasn’t overnight. History laid the groundwork – a pattern of liberal decay.

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

Note: Trump is seeking ways for a 3rd term and a Congressman is creating a bill to create a path to a 3rd term that only applies to Trump’s situation.
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We see who the real fascists are:

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Coyote said:
What Is Fascism?

According to this source there are 5 stages of Fascism.

Stage 1: Emerging out of disillusionment

Covid lockdowns, economic downturn and supply chain meltdowns, inflation, political instability (false claims of 2020 election fraud), etc.

Economic crisis spurs a nationalist political movement blaming immigrants and ethnic minorities for the country’s turmoil.


Stage 2: Establishing Legitimacy as a Political Party

The Trumpification of the Republican Party


Popular mobilization

… fascist regimes seek to energize public participation in society through government-organized channels. Both Mussolini and Hitler, for instance, drew massive crowds in rallies intended to stir up enthusiasm for the country, the party, and the leader.

Trump has the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers as his “Blackshirts” – fascist citizen militias loyal to Trump. Trump has also pardoned them from any crimes or violence on his behalf and made it clear his DoJ will not prosecute them for anything in the future . In addition to those more organized militias he has a fervent and large core of MAGA followers willing to commit populist violence on his behalf. January 6 is the defining moment for the movement.

Of note, like Mussolini’s Fascism – Trump’s fascist militants have skirmished with groups like ANTIFA, and leftist protestors (labeled socialists and Marxists) protesting his policies.

Like other Fascist groups, the MAGA movement also blames specific groups for the country’s seeming demise and undermining efforts to make America Great AGAIN.

Immigrants (not just illegal immigrants), Black People, DEI, Transgender people.
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Almost all of these tropes and lists come from self identified Marxists, who see all forms of Capitalism as stages of Fascism.
 
Coyote said:
That is an interesting way to put it.

The problem is that this administration isn’t just going after illegal immigrants or prioritizing immigrants who committed major crimes and should be deported. It is also totally bypassing due process meaning when an immigrant is wrongly deported, it can be catastrophic for that person.
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Yes, they are.
 
Coyote said:
Why yes. It has. MAGA!

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.


Source: What Is Fascism?

“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies that support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.

In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary in nature. They advocate for the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, such regimes are also highly conservative in their championing of traditional values.

And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality, their regimes often align with powerful business interests.”


Sound familiar? It should.

Existing forms of government are being overthrown through the destruction of our institutions with the Executive usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked.

Note the last line: aligned with powerful business interests: Musk (who is raking in millions in government contracts), Bezos, Zuckerberg.


Characteristics of Facism:

Extreme Nationalism - check.

Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality.


Cult of personality - check.

Fascist regimes cultivate images of their leaders as great figures to be loved and admired. This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda. …The Pope chalked up Il Duce’s survival of assassination attempts to divine intervention, adding to Mussolini’s mystique.


How did Fascists come to power? This is interesting, because it tracks what has actually been happening.

“It wasn’t overnight. History laid the groundwork – a pattern of liberal decay.

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

Note: Trump is seeking ways for a 3rd term and a Congressman is creating a bill to create a path to a 3rd term that only applies to Trump’s situation.
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Fascists are leftists, everyone knows that.
 
Coyote said:
What Is Fascism?

According to this source there are 5 stages of Fascism.

Stage 1: Emerging out of disillusionment

Covid lockdowns, economic downturn and supply chain meltdowns, inflation, political instability (false claims of 2020 election fraud), etc.

Economic crisis spurs a nationalist political movement blaming immigrants and ethnic minorities for the country’s turmoil.


Stage 2: Establishing Legitimacy as a Political Party

The Trumpification of the Republican Party


Popular mobilization

… fascist regimes seek to energize public participation in society through government-organized channels. Both Mussolini and Hitler, for instance, drew massive crowds in rallies intended to stir up enthusiasm for the country, the party, and the leader.

Trump has the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers as his “Blackshirts” – fascist citizen militias loyal to Trump. Trump has also pardoned them from any crimes or violence on his behalf and made it clear his DoJ will not prosecute them for anything in the future . In addition to those more organized militias he has a fervent and large core of MAGA followers willing to commit populist violence on his behalf. January 6 is the defining moment for the movement.

Of note, like Mussolini’s Fascism – Trump’s fascist militants have skirmished with groups like ANTIFA, and leftist protestors (labeled socialists and Marxists) protesting his policies.

Like other Fascist groups, the MAGA movement also blames specific groups for the country’s seeming demise and undermining efforts to make America Great AGAIN.

Immigrants (not just illegal immigrants), Black People, DEI, Transgender people.
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What is loseism?? Whineism?
 
martybegan said:
Almost all of these tropes and lists come from self identified Marxists, who see all forms of Capitalism as stages of Fascism.
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Fascism is much more than the combination of government and business, based on historical examples. It’s not only an economic system, but also societal. It’s a tyrannical ideology where the wealthy elite control all aspects of society.

Ring any bells?
 
gipper said:
Fascism is much more than the combination of government and business, based on historical examples. It’s not only an economic system, but also societal. It’s a tyrannical ideology where the wealthy elite control all aspects of society.

Ring any bells?
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Nope.

We do not currently have fascism in this Country.
 
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