Has Fascism come to America?

[tahuyaman]

Has Fascism come to America?​

No. Only an idiot would think that.

 

[tahuyaman]

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Hamas Is Underground So Why Is Israel Leveling Gaza Buildings?​

Because they don’t fire their rockets from underground you idiot.

 

[Mac1958]

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.

Yeah, me neither. No way.

This whole ugly period has been a great history education. Now we know the answer to the question "how could they let this happen?" -- it all makes sense now.

And now we've turned the corner, and Europe sees it. Interestingly, from watching their commentary, they're every bit as unnerved by this as anyone in America.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That sounds like the Democrats, except for the "extreme nationalism"
Republicans are patriotic, not "extreme nationalists.

What's "patriotic" then?

 

[Kondor3]

Has fascism come to America?

No.

Sanity has returned.

Strength has returned.

Self-respect has returned.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Waaaa! More liberal tears. The stinking Democrats (and a number of RINOs) have been ripping us off blind and you're pissed that they've been caught. What do you have against putting America first? What do you have against making America great? What do you have against transparency, integrity, and responsibility? What do you have against the working class, American taxpayer?

Quit you're friggin' whining and either get on board with cleaning up America or pack your crap; move out of mamma's basement; and head to Venezuela where your precious Socialism reigns supreme.

The problem here is that Trump also rips people off. He's not going to save YOU money. He's going to save the RICH money.

 

[scruffy]

The problem here is that Trump also rips people off. He's not going to save YOU money. He's going to save the RICH money.

lmao

Yesterday you were complaining about the trillions the 1%-ers lost in the market.

You clowns are being played by forces you don't even understand. "Class warfare". lol

 

[gipper]

It didn’t “start” with Trump per se, because it is PROCESS butTrump is the person with the personality and will to manifest it.

Very possibly correct.

 

[gipper]

Its been here from the beginning. There is no uniparty.

You so desperately want to believe the D Party you so love is different, even though it’s obvious they aren’t.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Why yes. It has. MAGA!

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.


Source: What Is Fascism?

“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies that support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.

In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary in nature. They advocate for the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, such regimes are also highly conservative in their championing of traditional values.

And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality, their regimes often align with powerful business interests.”


Sound familiar? It should.

Existing forms of government are being overthrown through the destruction of our institutions with the Executive usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked.

Note the last line: aligned with powerful business interests: Musk (who is raking in millions in government contracts), Bezos, Zuckerberg.


Characteristics of Facism:

Extreme Nationalism - check.

Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality.


Cult of personality - check.

Fascist regimes cultivate images of their leaders as great figures to be loved and admired. This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda. …The Pope chalked up Il Duce’s survival of assassination attempts to divine intervention, adding to Mussolini’s mystique.


How did Fascists come to power? This is interesting, because it tracks what has actually been happening.

“It wasn’t overnight. History laid the groundwork – a pattern of liberal decay.

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

Note: Trump is seeking ways for a 3rd term and a Congressman is creating a bill to create a path to a 3rd term that only applies to Trump’s situation.

 

[j-mac]

The problem here is that Trump also rips people off. He's not going to save YOU money. He's going to save the RICH money.

That sounds like you saw that on a poster board sign this past weekend at the various tantrums across the country…

Better get ahold of George, or Alex for better material

 

[Correll]

Your post said "persecution of political enemies."

He wasn't paying attention to his own words.

Becasue he knows that that words he is spewing is just bs.

 

[Delldude]

Why yes. It has. MAGA!

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.


Source: What Is Fascism?

“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies that support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.

In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary in nature. They advocate for the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, such regimes are also highly conservative in their championing of traditional values.

And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality, their regimes often align with powerful business interests.”


Sound familiar? It should.

Existing forms of government are being overthrown through the destruction of our institutions with the Executive usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked.

Note the last line: aligned with powerful business interests: Musk (who is raking in millions in government contracts), Bezos, Zuckerberg.


Characteristics of Facism:

Extreme Nationalism - check.

Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality.


Cult of personality - check.

Fascist regimes cultivate images of their leaders as great figures to be loved and admired. This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda. …The Pope chalked up Il Duce’s survival of assassination attempts to divine intervention, adding to Mussolini’s mystique.


How did Fascists come to power? This is interesting, because it tracks what has actually been happening.

“It wasn’t overnight. History laid the groundwork – a pattern of liberal decay.

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

Note: Trump is seeking ways for a 3rd term and a Congressman is creating a bill to create a path to a 3rd term that only applies to Trump’s situation.

Get a life.

Why no, I understand it. We all tend to fling the term loosely at each other. This isn’t that.

Gave up on Nazi too soon.

 

[Coyote]

Get a life.

Gave up on Nazi too soon.

Set an example.

 

[Coyote]

So, you can’t objectively refute the points. Noted.

 

[j-mac]

Set an example.

We will, with idiots like you.

 

[Correll]

lmao

Yesterday you were complaining about the trillions the 1%-ers lost in the market.

You clowns are being played by forces you don't even understand. "Class warfare". lol

Libs just say shit. They know that the shit they say is shit, so they don't pay attention to whether what they even looks like it makes sense or contradicts something they said just yesterday.


They don't care. You will note that the libs you called out here, wasn't embarassed at all. DIdn't care. Didn't adjust anything. Just moved on to next attack.

 

[Coyote]

Yeah, me neither. No way.

This whole ugly period has been a great history education. Now we know the answer to the question "how could they let this happen?" -- it all makes sense now.

And now we've turned the corner, and Europe sees it. Interestingly, from watching their commentary, they're every bit as unnerved by this as anyone in America.

Yes, they are. The worrisome thing though is far right authoritarianism is gaining ground around the world and history IS repeating itself. Our scape-goating and treatment of immigrants, in particular those here legally and even some American citizens is right with Operation Wetback, something that was historically considered an atrocity.

Worse, this is the same sentiment that drove America to deny refuge to the refugees aboard the St. Louis. Look at the excuses being made and the willingness to accept “collateral damage” in the process. It isn’t about fixing our broke immigration system, it is about dehumanizing and criminalizing huge swaths of people. We will look back in horror one day.

And free speech? The rightist projectors will claim the Dems did the same thing but that is a self serving lie. No one has gone after free speech like this in my life time and sought to erase entire groups of people from recognition.

Fascism is the extreme of rightwing ideologies, and in both left and right, the extremes in practice become authoritarian. Conservatives are about conserving “tradition”, that means excluding what they deem to be “the other”, liberals are inclusive, widening what is us..rainbows and unicorns.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I stopped reading at the following, which doesn't fit. Never understood that about you left-witches, you guys say anything and decorate inside your tiny heads that its reality.

"“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual."

I had the exact same experience.

Though the Title warned me, I read it anyway thinking it would be about Tech Censorship or something other than “Trump is Hitler”

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, they are. The worrisome thing though is far right authoritarianism is gaining ground around the world and history IS repeating itself. Our scape-goating and treatment of immigrants, in particular those here legally and even some American citizens is right with Operation Wetback, something that was historically considered an atrocity.

Worse, this is the same sentiment that drove America to deny refuge to the refugees aboard the St. Louis. Look at the excuses being made and the willingness to accept “collateral damage” in the process. It isn’t about fixing our broke immigration system, it is about dehumanizing and criminalizing huge swaths of people. We will look back in horror one day.

And free speech? The rightist projectors will claim the Dems did the same thing but that is a self serving lie. No one has gone after free speech like this in my life time and sought to erase entire groups of people from recognition.

Fascism is the extreme of rightwing ideologies, and in both left and right, the extremes in practice become authoritarian. Conservatives are about conserving “tradition”, that means excluding what they deem to be “the other”, liberals are inclusive, widening what is us..rainbows and unicorns.

I remember reading that "fascism is a reaction to socialism", and I can see that. Both are authoritarian by nature.

What we continue to see here is over-reaction, over-correction, over-compensation. It just continues to escalate, the "sides" separate more and more, and now it has metastasized globally.