Has Fascism come to America?

[Delldude]

Ignore it.

Yet you are governed by it.

 

[gipper]

Yet you are governed by it.

Yeah it’s a sad consequence of living among so many stupid people.

 

[Edgetho]

The word 'fascist' has become much more en vogue than the word 'racist' in the last few months.

Before that, it was homophobia, transphobic, misogynist......

But, dimocrap scum just LOVE our Country. Despite it being fascist, racist, misogynist, full of oligarchs and transphobics.

"Honey, I love you but you need to lose some weight. And change your hair. And the way you dress -- It's just so yesterday. You could see a dentist about your teeth, too. And your personal hygiene could use some work and try to be quiet when we're at friends' houses and remember, my folks don't like you very much so don't say a whole lot when we're there for Sunday dinners."

"But I do. I just LOVE you. Honest Injun I only say these things to help you fix yourself. And let's face it, you need a lot of work. We'll talk about your cooking and cleaning later on. It really needs some improvement"

 

[Delldude]

Yeah it’s a sad consequence of living among so many stupid people.

There's the door.....

 

[task0778]

To me, fascism is all about big gov't and control of the country as much as possible. Trump is trying to reduce the size and scope of gov't while the democrats always want to create more gov't agencies and rules. You tell me, how is he reducing anybody's individual rights?

IMHO, the Left has mercilessly persecuted Trump from day one of his 1st campaign, so far he has not done the same. Who has he persecuted? Investigated maybe, but that isn't persecution. It's politics.

Are not the democrats also aligned with powerful persons and businesses? They got a lot of campaign money from the big corps and uberwealthy, no?

I think Biden was also guilty of usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked. I would suggest that most presidents since Washington have pushed the boundaries somewhat. Is that fascist or just authoritarian?

"Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality." LOL, tell me that the democrats aren't far worse than Trump on this score. The dems are the ones favoring people based on those characteristics.

"This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda." I don't think Trump is getting much help from media or any propaganda. Personally, I think he's a GD jerk and a bully. But that doesn't make him a fascist. Contrast him with Barack Obama, the Left thought he was the black Jesus, no?

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

I recall it was the democrats who almost ended the filibuster in an attempt to consolidate and preserve their control of the federal gov't. No doubt Trump would love to do that, but it ain't happening. And running his mouth about a 3rd term is BS, he's jerking your chain. That doesn't make him a fascist either.

Granted, I do not understand the preoccupation with Greenland, that came out of nowhere. I do not see the threat of Soviet or Chinese ICBMs coming this way anytime soon. But it ain't like Trump is gearing up for WWIII either, let's not lump him in with Hitler and Mussolini.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Has Fascism come to America?​

Yes. democrats ARE Marxists and have indeed introduced fascism to America. At least the leadershit.

America is blessed to have a new and freedom oriented, America oriented leader after the disastrous Marxist years in the past under your fools.

 

[gipper]

There's the door.....

Yeah because we can’t have anything different from the status quo. So thinks the ignorant statist.

Most un-American.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Yeah because we can’t have anything different from the status quo. So thinks the ignorant statist.

Most un-American.

Interesting.
But, can you explain how Trump is not in fact going about trying to raise America, vs the relentless campaign to destroy America led by the Left?

Seriously. Educate me on facts if you can. I'm always open to learning.

 

[gipper]

Interesting.
But, can you explain how Trump is not in fact going about trying to raise America, vs the relentless campaign to destroy America led by the Left?

Seriously.

There is no left in America. Only the uniparty.

 

[JimH52]

The FIRST tenet of fascism is the REJECTION of the free market and centralized, state-control of the economy. As well, fascism entails state control of media, healthcare, education, and every other facet of society. In fact, the only difference economically between communism and fascism is ownership of industry. In both cases government directs industry's activities.

Fascism is a branch of the same ideological, leftist, tree as communism and socialism.

Hitler was an ultra-conservative...try again MAGAT.

 

[JimH52]

To me, fascism is all about big gov't and control of the country as much as possible. Trump is trying to reduce the size and scope of gov't while the democrats always want to create more gov't agencies and rules. You tell me, how is he reducing anybody's individual rights?

IMHO, the Left has mercilessly persecuted Trump from day one of his 1st campaign, so far he has not done the same. Who has he persecuted? Investigated maybe, but that isn't persecution. It's politics.

Are not the democrats also aligned with powerful persons and businesses? They got a lot of campaign money from the big corps and uberwealthy, no?

I think Biden was also guilty of usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked. I would suggest that most presidents since Washington have pushed the boundaries somewhat. Is that fascist or just authoritarian?

"Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality." LOL, tell me that the democrats aren't far worse than Trump on this score. The dems are the ones favoring people based on those characteristics.

"This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda." I don't think Trump is getting much help from media or any propaganda. Personally, I think he's a GD jerk and a bully. But that doesn't make him a fascist. Contrast him with Barack Obama, the Left thought he was the black Jesus, no?





I recall it was the democrats who almost ended the filibuster in an attempt to consolidate and preserve their control of the federal gov't. No doubt Trump would love to do that, but it ain't happening. And running his mouth about a 3rd term is BS, he's jerking your chain. That doesn't make him a fascist either.

Granted, I do not understand the preoccupation with Greenland, that came out of nowhere. I do not see the threat of Soviet or Chinese ICBMs coming this way anytime soon. But it ain't like Trump is gearing up for WWIII either, let's not lump him in with Hitler and Mussolini.

Yadayada Yada. The party of billionaires is the GOP.

 

[IM2]

Fascism WAS here the past 4 years, but now its getting forcibly removed from this country!!!

Fascism is actually here now. False claims were made but the fascism of the past 4 years was by the people who are fascists because it was called out and opposed.

 

[IM2]

How about censorship?

Censorship of what?

 

[jbrownson0831]

Hitler was an ultra-conservative...try again MAGAT.

Baloney wacko.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Yadayada Yada. The party of billionaires is the GOP.

Again backwards news.....many more billionaire libtards than conservatives.

 

[IM2]

Baloney wacko.

Again backwards news.....many more billionaire libtards than conservatives.

Wrong twice.

 

[IM2]

Interesting.
But, can you explain how Trump is not in fact going about trying to raise America, vs the relentless campaign to destroy America led by the Left?

Seriously. Educate me on facts if you can. I'm always open to learning.

Try educating us on hw the left is on a campaign to destroy America. Because the only president to have ever tried overthrowing the government was Trump.

 

[Nostra]

Try educating us on hw the left is on a campaign to destroy America. Because the only president to have ever tried overthrowing the government was Trump.

Months of Antifa riots did way more damage than J6

Your no border policy allowed an invasion of gang members, drug cartels, and terrorists into the US.

 

[gipper]

Interesting.
But, can you explain how Trump is not in fact going about trying to raise America, vs the relentless campaign to destroy America led by the Left?

Seriously. Educate me on facts if you can. I'm always open to learning.

You might find this have interest.

Every national Government that includes public elections between competing politicians has degenerated into control by the richest, because the richest donate more than half of all of the money that is donated to political campaigns, and they can and do aways spend enough on politics to deceive enough voters to vote against any candidate who refuses to be bought, so that only the candidates who are willing to do what their megadonors say — obedient candidates (obedient to the billionaires especially) — will have any real chance to win a major public office. So, if a democracy is to be defined as ONLY a system that includes public elections between competing politicians, then it will always degenerate into an aristocracy of the super-rich, which is a type of dictatorship (sometimes called by such names as “aristocracy,” “oligarchy,” “plutocracy,” etc.), NOT a democracy.
Does every democracy corruptly degenerate into control by the richest?

 

[Coyote]

To me, fascism is all about big gov't and control of the country as much as possible. Trump is trying to reduce the size and scope of gov't while the democrats always want to create more gov't agencies and rules. You tell me, how is he reducing anybody's individual rights?

Thanks for giving a thoughtful response (few have).

I go by the definition of fascism that I referenced, it seemed the most comprehensive one I came across.

I don’t see Trump as actually reducing the size of government so much as changing its composition, emphasis and reach. “Big Government” isn’t just about bodies and agencies.

Trump’s government is reaching far more deeply into our lives and into areas previously deemed non-political than that of any other administration in my lifetime.

Direct political attacks (using the power of his position) on universities, academic freedom and free speech. Mandating who and how they admit, as well as clamping down on free speech that is in opposition to the Administration’s priorities.

Directly attacking law firms that either prosecuted him or his administration or defended his opponents in various legal actions. In addition, using the power of his administration to threaten or cut off grants funding lawyers who represent immigrants or challenge his policies on civil rights grounds.

Many people who have been affected are afraid to speak out out of fear of government retaliation.

Everyone in this country has certain basic rights, citizen and non-citizen. This administration is going through social media as well using other sources (such lists of names provided by opposing groups) to hunt down people who have either supported Palestinian rights or opposed the war in Gaza, cancelling their visas, and sending ICE (in masks) to grab them and send them hundreds of miles away, out of reach and communication with legal assistance and family.

That is one example of the attack on several very fundamental rights in this country. And this, to me, manifests the most intrusive and seemingly unaccountable Big Government.

IMHO, the Left has mercilessly persecuted Trump from day one of his 1st campaign, so far he has not done the same. Who has he persecuted? Investigated maybe, but that isn't persecution. It's politics.

Well, I’m going to disagree and Ialso remember how the Right treated Obama. Trump was attacking people from Day 1 of his first administration and behaved in ways no other president has, you can’t ignore his own behavior in this.

As far as persecuted, I listed examples of that above. Add to it, anyone who worked in DEI for example. They specifically stated those people should be fired rather than transferred to other positions when they closed down the units. Even people who once worked in a position considered DEI and were in a different job, were fired.

Are not the democrats also aligned with powerful persons and businesses? They got a lot of campaign money from the big corps and uberwealthy, no?

They are, to the extent every political party tends to be. But how directly are they involved in actual formation and carrying out of policy the way Musk is for example?

I think Biden was also guilty of usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked. I would suggest that most presidents since Washington have pushed the boundaries somewhat. Is that fascist or just authoritarian?

I think most presidents have pushed the envelope on separation of powers, however I have never seen one to the extent Trump has.

"Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality." LOL, tell me that the democrats aren't far worse than Trump on this score. The dems are the ones favoring people based on those characteristics.

I disagree. Democrats don’t believe in “superiority” of any particular group. That is not to say they aren’t divisive and in general, what drives them is more on issues of equity and class.

"This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda." I don't think Trump is getting much help from media or any propaganda. Personally, I think he's a GD jerk and a bully. But that doesn't make him a fascist. Contrast him with Barack Obama, the Left thought he was the black Jesus, no?

Bezos has altered the Washington Post to comply with Trump, Fox (which is mass media) is essentially a mouth piece for him.

I recall it was the democrats who almost ended the filibuster in an attempt to consolidate and preserve their control of the federal gov't. No doubt Trump would love to do that, but it ain't happening. And running his mouth about a 3rd term is BS, he's jerking your chain. That doesn't make him a fascist either.

BUT…they opted not to didn’t they?

Do you really think he is jerking chains? There are so many crazy things he has said that he ended up acting on.

Granted, I do not understand the preoccupation with Greenland, that came out of nowhere. I do not see the threat of Soviet or Chinese ICBMs coming this way anytime soon. But it ain't like Trump is gearing up for WWIII either, let's not lump him in with Hitler and Mussolini.

Hitler, no. Mussolini? Mmm maybe.

He is pushing for a military build up both in weaponry and budget. The fact that he thinks we should ignore the Geneva conventions and focus on “lethality”disturbs me hugely