Gun Grabber, we will take your AR-15s, but my private security will keep theirs...deblasio.

[Soupnazi630]

Moron....the "disaffected Kid" was on of 12 mass public shootings

Nobody believes your numbers... except other gun nuts.

Everyone with intelligence believes them

Of course that leaves you out

 

[Soupnazi630]

And some of those big guns are used to save lives....like the 26 lives saved at the church shooting.....and the stores that weren't burned to the ground in the Rodney King riots when the Korean store owners stood there with their AKs and AR-15 to protect their businesses.......

Again, not working up a lot of sympathy for the store owners.. there's a reason why they were the victims of the community's ire.

As for the Church shooting.. he managed to kill 9 people... so not so much.

No gun. No shooting.

The only reason was mindless racism from scum like you

 

[Care4all]

Likewise, we have laws that reflect changes in society such as requiring permits to carry concealed. That does not, however, excuse those who faint at the sight of a gun and want to prevent people from owning big, powerful looking black guns.

Well, given some of those big guns are used in Walmarts, nightclubs, movie theaters and preschools to gun down lots and lots of people, we probably should be worried.

You forgot outdoor rock concerts, churches and synagogues and work places....

 

[2aguy]

Likewise, we have laws that reflect changes in society such as requiring permits to carry concealed. That does not, however, excuse those who faint at the sight of a gun and want to prevent people from owning big, powerful looking black guns.

Well, given some of those big guns are used in Walmarts, nightclubs, movie theaters and preschools to gun down lots and lots of people, we probably should be worried.

You forgot outdoor rock concerts, churches and synagogues and work places....

LIke the Paris Rock Concet...135 killed with illegal, fully automatic weapons...

The Charlie Hebdo, in France....12 killed with illegal, fully automatic weapons

The shooting in Strasbourg, France...with a revolver....5 dead...

You mean like that?

Or the Toulouse, Montauban attacks on Jewish schools in France....you mean like that?

 

[JoeB131]

And you're extremely unlikely to ever be involved in a mass shooting. Get robbed at gunpoint point? Much more likely. Get shot during the robbery? Much more likely.

Fairly unlikely...

but tell you what, let's ban guns, get rid of all those things.

 

[JoeB131]

Everyone with intelligence believes them

Of course that leaves you out

Yeah, he thinks pools are more dangerous than guns...

 

[daveman]

Obviously, you only fear them because they're black. How racist of you.

Come back when you want to have a grown up conversation.

2/3rd of Americans think we should ban these weapons.

Two-thirds of Americans support assault weapons ban: Fox News poll

Interesting. You worry more about the things that are far less likely to happen to you than you worry about the things that are far more likely to happen to you. That strikes me as odd.

That's because you are an idiot. I'm more likely to be a victim of a mass shooting than I'll ever be of being shot as part of a drug deal... because I don't do drugs.

I do go to movie theaters, shopping malls, work places and other areas where mass shootings happen.

What percentage of Americans believed women shouldn't vote? What percentage of Americans thought slavery was a swell idea?

I know you're completely unaware of this, but America isn't a democracy. The majority doesn't get to vote to take away the rights of the minority.

If you don't like that, tough shit.

 

[JoeB131]

What percentage of Americans believed women shouldn't vote? What percentage of Americans thought slavery was a swell idea?

NO idea. Do you have polls. Since both of those things were fixed through the process, I'd say the majority won.

I know you're completely unaware of this, but America isn't a democracy. The majority doesn't get to vote to take away the rights of the minority.

Guy, there's no issue of "rights" here. This is an issue of whether or not it's good policy to let any nut buy a gun.

Your argument is that if you stop the nuts from having guns.. you'd have to stop everyone else from having them.

Which I'm actually okay with, but until you guys come up with something better to keep guns out the hands of nuts, this is the best we've got.

 

[daveman]

And you're extremely unlikely to ever be involved in a mass shooting. Get robbed at gunpoint point? Much more likely. Get shot during the robbery? Much more likely.

Fairly unlikely...

but tell you what, let's ban guns, get rid of all those things.

Let's ban alcohol. That way no one will ever drive drunk.

Oh, wait -- we tried that. People got alcohol anyway.

Your life would be a lot easier if you weren't so stupid.

 

[daveman]

What percentage of Americans believed women shouldn't vote? What percentage of Americans thought slavery was a swell idea?

NO idea. Do you have polls. Since both of those things were fixed through the process, I'd say the majority won.

I know you're completely unaware of this, but America isn't a democracy. The majority doesn't get to vote to take away the rights of the minority.

Guy, there's no issue of "rights" here. This is an issue of whether or not it's good policy to let any nut buy a gun.

Your argument is that if you stop the nuts from having guns.. you'd have to stop everyone else from having them.

Which I'm actually okay with, but until you guys come up with something better to keep guns out the hands of nuts, this is the best we've got.

Great idea. Trump is Super Hitler, and the government is all Triple Nazis, but you want them to have the only guns.

Stupid leftist. No totalitarianism for you!

 

[2aguy]

Everyone with intelligence believes them

Of course that leaves you out

Yeah, he thinks pools are more dangerous than guns...

They are more dangerous than AR-15 rifles...or any rifle...pools kill more people every single than AR-15 rifles do.......lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.....cars kill more people than all gun deaths, and knives kill more people than rifles do.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Everyone with intelligence believes them

Of course that leaves you out

Yeah, he thinks pools are more dangerous than guns...

They are

 

[daveman]

Everyone with intelligence believes them

Of course that leaves you out

Yeah, he thinks pools are more dangerous than guns...

They are more dangerous than AR-15 rifles...or any rifle...pools kill more people every single than AR-15 rifles do.......lawn mowers also kill more people every single year than AR-15 rifles do.....cars kill more people than all gun deaths, and knives kill more people than rifles do.

The left doesn't give a shit about anything that kills people. They only want guns banned because no one ever resisted leftist tyranny with pools, lawn mowers, cars, or knives.

 

[hadit]

And you're extremely unlikely to ever be involved in a mass shooting. Get robbed at gunpoint point? Much more likely. Get shot during the robbery? Much more likely.

Fairly unlikely...

but tell you what, let's ban guns, get rid of all those things.

But much more likely than you being involved in a mass shooting.

 

[airplanemechanic]

By military grade weapons, do you mean Pump Action Shotguns? Bolt Action Rifles? Those are actual, current, military weapons used in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan...the AR-15 rifle is not a military rifle, and has never been used in combat...it is a civilian and police rifle, while the deer hunting rifle is a military weapon, as is the pump action shotgun...you doofus.

I know you are in your bizarre world where the AR15 and the M16 aren't really the same weapon... whatever, dude.

They are very different weapons. Cosmetically kinda look the same but that's where the similarities end.

I mean a Prius and Subaru WRX STI look quite similar but are VASTLY different automobiles.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's ban alcohol. That way no one will ever drive drunk.

Oh, wait -- we tried that. People got alcohol anyway.

Your life would be a lot easier if you weren't so stupid.

I think you are a little confused. People didn't vote to ban alcohol. They voted to ban German Taverns.... that's how prohibition was sold during WWI. Read some history, you can see the whole thing was pitched as "You oppose Prohibition, what do you love the Kaiser?"

When people realized they weren't just closing down the beer halls the immigrants were frequenting, but their nice habit as well.... they realized it was a bad idea.

Great idea. Trump is Super Hitler, and the government is all Triple Nazis, but you want them to have the only guns.

Stupid leftist. No totalitarianism for you!

Actually, the government isn't really the problem here. The government, bless them, are all doing their jobs despite the madman you idiots "elected" (not really), keeping him from abusing his power too much through checks and balances until we can get rid of him next year. Then we'll pass a bunch of reforms to make sure it never happens again.

Meanwhile, we really need to get guns out of the hands of the crazies.

 

[JoeB131]

They are very different weapons. Cosmetically kinda look the same but that's where the similarities end.

They look almost exactly the same. The only difference is that the AR-15 doesn't go full auto, unless you modify it which anyone can do pretty easily.

 

[Blues Man]

They are very different weapons. Cosmetically kinda look the same but that's where the similarities end.

They look almost exactly the same. The only difference is that the AR-15 doesn't go full auto, unless you modify it which anyone can do pretty easily.

If it was as easy as you say then we would be seeing modified semiauto rifles being used and it just doesn't happen

 

[RealDave]

Left wing asshat, mayor Deblasio made it clear on Tucker Carlson, that only normal people will have to surrender their AR-15 rifles......the security details of rich democrat politicians will keep theirs....


WATCH: De Blasio Wants To Seize Semi-Automatic Rifles From Citizens, But His Bodyguards Can Keep Theirs

Carlson further questioned whether the security detail that de Blasio is provided as mayor would be subject to the same limitations as their fellow citizens. The Democratic lawmaker contended that as a government official he is potentially more exposed to violence and therefore needs the additional protection that semi-automatic rifles provide.

Trained, professionals vs a bunch of amateurs.

 

[2aguy]

Left wing asshat, mayor Deblasio made it clear on Tucker Carlson, that only normal people will have to surrender their AR-15 rifles......the security details of rich democrat politicians will keep theirs....


WATCH: De Blasio Wants To Seize Semi-Automatic Rifles From Citizens, But His Bodyguards Can Keep Theirs

Carlson further questioned whether the security detail that de Blasio is provided as mayor would be subject to the same limitations as their fellow citizens. The Democratic lawmaker contended that as a government official he is potentially more exposed to violence and therefore needs the additional protection that semi-automatic rifles provide.

Trained, professionals vs a bunch of amateurs.

Amateurs......

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.