GOP and trump considering Medicare cuts in his second term

Trump Has Told Friends That Gutting Medicare Could Be a Fun “Second-Term Project”

That would teach the old toothless farts that believed every word the Liar says. Maybe instead of a nursing home...they can live under a bridge....
Hmmm...which is worse, medicate cuts or picking hundreds of millions from the pockets of US citizens and adding hundreds of billions to the deficit to give criminal illegal immigrants US-funded 'free' health care, housing, education...etc?

Once again Democrats are demonstrating they care more about pandering to / taking care of foreign criminals than American citizens while attempting to spin it...
 
Don't even PRETEND you care about adding to the deficit
 
Did the poll ask if they were willing to fork over another huge percentage of their income to pay for it and they would lose whatever private insurance they had?

Of course, it did not! The poll is therefore about as useless as teats on a boar hog!

People realize that they will pay less overall.

But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.
 
People realize that they will pay less overall.

But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."
 
Trump said his new healthcare plan would include preexisting conditions... all for them NOT to be a part of the last attempt the GOP made to put one together. If you haven't noticed by now, you should expect exactly the opposite of what Trump tells you.

You obviously paid zero attention to the plan they were trying to get put together, because they contained all the tings I mentioned.

And I'm far from progressive. It's pretty clear you have never been around a real progressive, or you just think everything is binary and if all people that don't agree with you on every single issue are evil, progressive, socialist boogie men. Out of every single person in the Master's program at my university, I'm about the third most CONSERVATIVE out of them.

I don't know about you but I believe President Donald Trump has delivered exactly what he promised.

President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List | MAGA PILL

Saying you're the "THIRD MOST CONSERVATIVE" in a master's degree program at a far-left university is like saying you stay dry when diving into a swimming pool. Laughable.


Far left university? What university do I go to?

Unless it's Hillsdale or one of a very few others it really doesn't matter, does it?
 
But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

It would as there would be fewer doctors. Why would I want to spend between $400-500k on an education when my earnings will be controlled by the Govt?
 
But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

Aside from Medicare for all costing trillions of dollars we don't have, at least 180 million people would lose the insurance they have and like.

Countries with Socialist health care have two levels of care. State health care which is "free" and then there is private health insurance which provides superior care.
 
Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

Aside from Medicare for all costing trillions of dollars we don't have, at least 180 million people would lose the insurance they have and like.

Countries with Socialist health care have two levels of care. State health care which is "free" and then there is private health insurance which provides superior care.

I haven't talked to anyone who is on Medicare who hates the care they receive. Even my Bircher parents.
 
Trump said his new healthcare plan would include preexisting conditions... all for them NOT to be a part of the last attempt the GOP made to put one together. If you haven't noticed by now, you should expect exactly the opposite of what Trump tells you.

You obviously paid zero attention to the plan they were trying to get put together, because they contained all the tings I mentioned.

And I'm far from progressive. It's pretty clear you have never been around a real progressive, or you just think everything is binary and if all people that don't agree with you on every single issue are evil, progressive, socialist boogie men. Out of every single person in the Master's program at my university, I'm about the third most CONSERVATIVE out of them.

I don't know about you but I believe President Donald Trump has delivered exactly what he promised.

President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List | MAGA PILL

Saying you're the "THIRD MOST CONSERVATIVE" in a master's degree program at a far-left university is like saying you stay dry when diving into a swimming pool. Laughable.


Far left university? What university do I go to?

Unless it's Hillsdale or one of a very few others it really doesn't matter, does it?


Yes, it does. I just proved you are talking out of your ass. All those conservatives you like so much... what universities did they go to?

My point is proven. :thup:
 
Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

Aside from Medicare for all costing trillions of dollars we don't have, at least 180 million people would lose the insurance they have and like.

Countries with Socialist health care have two levels of care. State health care which is "free" and then there is private health insurance which provides superior care.

I haven't talked to anyone who is on Medicare who hates the care they receive. Even my Bircher parents.

But you want Medicare for all?

I think we do need a better solution but before discussing UH we need to tackle expensive education and the 14th amendment
 
Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

Aside from Medicare for all costing trillions of dollars we don't have, at least 180 million people would lose the insurance they have and like.

Countries with Socialist health care have two levels of care. State health care which is "free" and then there is private health insurance which provides superior care.

I haven't talked to anyone who is on Medicare who hates the care they receive. Even my Bircher parents.

But you want Medicare for all?

I think we do need a better solution but before discussing UH we need to tackle expensive education and the 14th amendment

I think it's a good starting point for debate, at the very least. With Obamacare, they started on too moderate of a note, and ended up with basically Massachusettes Romneycare.
 
That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

Assuming for the sake of discussion that you are right, it won't affect the vast majority of people negatively. It might affect people of exceptional means more, but probably they would be able to pay out of pocket for better care anyway. That is how it works in most countries with "socialized medicine."

Aside from Medicare for all costing trillions of dollars we don't have, at least 180 million people would lose the insurance they have and like.

Countries with Socialist health care have two levels of care. State health care which is "free" and then there is private health insurance which provides superior care.

I haven't talked to anyone who is on Medicare who hates the care they receive. Even my Bircher parents.

But you want Medicare for all?

I think we do need a better solution but before discussing UH we need to tackle expensive education and the 14th amendment

I think it's a good starting point for debate, at the very least. With Obamacare, they started on too moderate of a note, and ended up with basically Massachusettes Romneycare.

Yeah but here people get to keep their insurance. I am cool with UH but first we need to tackle expensive education and the 14th amendment for anchor babies. I dont want my $$ for insurance going to pay for healthcare for anchor babies. Sorry.
 
I haven't talked to anyone who is on Medicare who hates the care they receive. Even my Bircher parents.

I'm on Medicare and I love it. I simply converted my old insurance/health care to Medicare, kept the same thing.

Of course, everyone loves Medicare that is on it today. It's also going deeper and deeper in debt every day.

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How does that work?
 
Trump said his new healthcare plan would include preexisting conditions... all for them NOT to be a part of the last attempt the GOP made to put one together. If you haven't noticed by now, you should expect exactly the opposite of what Trump tells you.

You obviously paid zero attention to the plan they were trying to get put together, because they contained all the tings I mentioned.

And I'm far from progressive. It's pretty clear you have never been around a real progressive, or you just think everything is binary and if all people that don't agree with you on every single issue are evil, progressive, socialist boogie men. Out of every single person in the Master's program at my university, I'm about the third most CONSERVATIVE out of them.

I don't know about you but I believe President Donald Trump has delivered exactly what he promised.

President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List | MAGA PILL

Saying you're the "THIRD MOST CONSERVATIVE" in a master's degree program at a far-left university is like saying you stay dry when diving into a swimming pool. Laughable.


Far left university? What university do I go to?

Unless it's Hillsdale or one of a very few others it really doesn't matter, does it?


Yes, it does. I just proved you are talking out of your ass. All those conservatives you like so much... what universities did they go to?

My point is proven. :thup:

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My last three words "most never happened". Does that refer obama never took some money? No 750 million like you claimed,
Very well how about 716 Billion?
Obama Loots $716 Billion from Medicare

Better do some deeper digging but I will give you this the cuts for most medical services in your list actually at the last minute before happening were actually given a small increase. You also, if you really want to know see what the trump administration has done to certain meds that fall under Part B of Medicare.
No need for further digging obama took money from medicare so the CBO could score Obamacare that it would be passable in congress

You know it really doesn't matter 9 years later, what matters is what goes forward. But it seems if you are on Medicare it would concern you that taking away the way Part B drugs are paid and sticking them under Part D will cost one quite a bit more money. Part B drugs are normally administered in hospital or in a Doctor's office.
oh it doesn't matter now but yet you're whining about Trump doing it? How deep in hypocrisy do you stand?

Just show me how it cost senior's anymore money then than it is now. You don't seem to understand Medicare.
 
Cut it 100%, along with every other social welfare program, all forms of corporate, disaster, and international aid as well
If we do end up in a recession, cutting welfare and medicaid will be necessary in order to pass the tax cut needed to save our economy.

Oh I thought there were already tax cuts passed to save the economy. Wasn't trumps suppose to trickle down?
 
It would help a lot of Republican voters. And many even realize that:
Majority of Republicans supports 'Medicare for all,' poll finds

Did the poll ask if they were willing to fork over another huge percentage of their income to pay for it and they would lose whatever private insurance they had?

Of course, it did not! The poll is therefore about as useless as teats on a boar hog!

People realize that they will pay less overall.

But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Since when did private insurance pay for voluntary cosmetic surgery? Never. The govt does not either unless medically necessary.
 
Trump Has Told Friends That Gutting Medicare Could Be a Fun “Second-Term Project”

That would teach the old toothless farts that believed every word the Liar says. Maybe instead of a nursing home...they can live under a bridge....
Hmmm...which is worse, medicate cuts or picking hundreds of millions from the pockets of US citizens and adding hundreds of billions to the deficit to give criminal illegal immigrants US-funded 'free' health care, housing, education...etc?

Once again Democrats are demonstrating they care more about pandering to / taking care of foreign criminals than American citizens while attempting to spin it...

You don't seem to have a problem with trumps deficit.
 
People realize that they will pay less overall.

But that is not true and if it is the service will be worse overall. Why would doctors want to make less when they paid so much for Med School?

Would doctors make less? Why? It isn't state run delivery of medicine. It is the state providing a single insurer.

Because private pay always pays better. Why do you think so many now go lasik and beauty enhancements? Once the Govt is involved the $$$ dwindles. That’s why so many don’t accept Medicaid.

Medicare is not treated the same way in the budgeting process that medicaid is. Because Medicare is a sacred cow, and Medicaid has a poverty related stigma.

That is how Medicare for All will be. Every MD paid the same. So why would the good ones want that? And I do not believe that the Govt will differentiate. If you can prove that it will then maybe I ll listen more.

There has always been a Medicare fee schedule and your private insurance somewhat follows that fee schedule when contracting with doctor's and hospitals.
 

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