Global warming tipping points

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You have magic electricity that doesn't produce heat when used?

Incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your ego won’t allow you to see it any other way.

Or reality.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toast?

Heat!

Darn, FLoT wins again.

 

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We've already determined that moving heat from one spot to another doesn't actually cool the planet.

No, we did not determine that. You refuse to acknowledge that there is no change in waste heat from switching from fossil fuels to solar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

there was less infrared radiation at 6 solar farms because photons were converted into electricity that would have otherwise produced heat.

And more heat at the toaster.

 

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Or reality.

Says the guy who can’t comprehend that there is no change in waste heat Friday m switching from fossil fuels to solar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Incrementally there is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar.

Well, there is, but that wasn't your original glacial cycle claim.

 

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And more heat at the toaster.

Exact same waste heat regardless of the generating technology.

 

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Well, there is, but that wasn't your original glacial cycle claim.

Pretty sure I’ve always said the best way to usher in the next glacial cycle and is the widespread use of solar.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, we did not determine that. You refuse to acknowledge that there is no change in waste heat from switching from fossil fuels to solar.

No, we did not determine that.

You still want to claim moving heat from a panel to a city cools the planet? Ok. Prove it.

You refuse to acknowledge that there is no change in waste heat from switching from fossil fuels to solar.

If you want to move to this new claim, because I refuted your old one, then show your math.

Pick an amount of electricity and show the waste heat for nat gas, coal and solar.

 

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Heat!

Darn, FLoT wins again.

Exact same heat regardless of the generating technology.

Switching from fossil fuels to some lar will result in an incremental cooling effect due to photons being converted into electricity that would have otherwise produced heat.

 

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You still want to claim moving heat from a panel to a city cools the planet? Ok. Prove it.

Solar power converts photons into electricity that would have otherwise produced heat.

 

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If you want to move to this new claim, because I refuted your old one, then show your math. Pick an amount of electricity and show the waste heat for nat gas, coal and solar.

It’s not a new claim.

 

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YOUR satellites are measuring radiation ... and INFERRING temperature from that ... thermometers on the ground DO NOT verify these inferences ... do they? ...

I suspect the cement footings are still curing, and you know that's an exothermic reaction ... thus we have a two-fold reason to abandon our blackbody model ...

Proxies are widely used in science and engineering. Doesn’t make them not empirical.

 

[Cellblock2429]

A recent study find the following climate tipping points nearing certainty.
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World on brink of five ‘disastrous’ climate tipping points, study finds

Giant ice sheets, ocean currents and permafrost regions may already have passed point of irreversible change

www.theguardian.com

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abn7950

But, of course, none of these actually look threatening, do they. And since this is all based on lies, there is NOTHING to worry about. Right?

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Incorrect.

The heat moved from the farm, in the form of electricity, doesn't reappear when the electricity is used? Why not? Explain the violation of the First Law. You'd be up for a Nobel Prize......like Michael Mann.

There is no change in waste heat from replacing fossil fuels with solar.

Let's clear up your FLoT confusion, first, before we move onto your adjusted claim.

The confusion is all yours. Photons being converted into electricity rather than producing heat is conservation of energy.

Replacing fossil fuels with solar does not change electricity usage so there is no change in waste heat from switching from fossil fuels to solar.

 

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I’m so happy I could bring Todd and Crick together.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Exact same waste heat regardless of the generating technology.

You're admitting there is waste heat at point of use for solar?

But you just said, "The photons that were converted into electricity did not produce warming because they were converted into electricity instead"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Exact same heat regardless of the generating technology.

Switching from fossil fuels to some lar will result in an incremental cooling effect due to photons being converted into electricity that would have otherwise produced heat.

It's hilarious that you think those "converted" photons don't still produce heat.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Solar power converts photons into electricity that would have otherwise produced heat.

And they still heat up my toaster.