Giss for Nov reports that we had the warmest November in recorded history

[daveman]

Are you an idiot? I bet it was cold at the poles as well. It was 80 today where I'm sitting and that's 26 degrees from the fooking equator. If you don't believe NASA/GISS, go find some other source with as much credibility and resources that DISAGREES with them. Don't send us fooking weather reports and claim you know what the fook you're talking about.

How about NOAA?

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48 | sunshine hours

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48

According to the NOAA November 2013 was 49th warmest out of 119. The following 70 Novembers were warmer:

1899,1900,1901,1902,1904,1905,1908,1909,1912,1913,1914,1915,1917,1921,1922,1923,1924,1927,1928

and 1931,1933,1934,1939,1941,1942,1944,1945,1946,1948,1949,1953,1954,1958,1960,1962,1963,1964,1965,1966,1967,1969

and 1971,1973,1974,1975,1977,1980,1981,1983,1984,1987,1988,1989,1990,1994,1995,1998,1999,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012

Only 4 states were “Above Normal”. Tennessee, for example, was over 3F below the 1901-2000 average and was 15th warmest out of 119.​

You can find the data here, at NOAA:

Climate at a Glance | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Even Florida has had warmer winters:

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When an Agency willfully goes in the past and Changes recorded data to suit their current theory one loses the ability to prove anything and science goes out the window.

That those of you that claim science is the be all everything why do you actively support an organization violating every procedure that makes science what it is?

 

[daveman]

When an Agency willfully goes in the past and Changes recorded data to suit their current theory one loses the ability to prove anything and science goes out the window.

That those of you that claim science is the be all everything why do you actively support an organization violating every procedure that makes science what it is?

Because their political goals -- world socialism and greater government control over individual lives -- utterly depend on a looming crisis that only they can prevent or mitigate.

If the crisis has to be manufactured, so be it. Extremism in the service of progressivism is no vice.

 

[Abraham3]

Are you an idiot? I bet it was cold at the poles as well. It was 80 today where I'm sitting and that's 26 degrees from the fooking equator. If you don't believe NASA/GISS, go find some other source with as much credibility and resources that DISAGREES with them. Don't send us fooking weather reports and claim you know what the fook you're talking about.

How about NOAA?

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48 | sunshine hours

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48

According to the NOAA November 2013 was 49th warmest out of 119. The following 70 Novembers were warmer:

1899,1900,1901,1902,1904,1905,1908,1909,1912,1913,1914,1915,1917,1921,1922,1923,1924,1927,1928

and 1931,1933,1934,1939,1941,1942,1944,1945,1946,1948,1949,1953,1954,1958,1960,1962,1963,1964,1965,1966,1967,1969

and 1971,1973,1974,1975,1977,1980,1981,1983,1984,1987,1988,1989,1990,1994,1995,1998,1999,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012

Only 4 states were “Above Normal”. Tennessee, for example, was over 3F below the 1901-2000 average and was 15th warmest out of 119.​

You can find the data here, at NOAA:

Climate at a Glance | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Even Florida has had warmer winters:

You've provided links to records for US states. GISS's statement re November 2013 regards global numbers.

Try again.

 

[westwall]

Are you an idiot? I bet it was cold at the poles as well. It was 80 today where I'm sitting and that's 26 degrees from the fooking equator. If you don't believe NASA/GISS, go find some other source with as much credibility and resources that DISAGREES with them. Don't send us fooking weather reports and claim you know what the fook you're talking about.

How about NOAA?

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48 | sunshine hours

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48

According to the NOAA November 2013 was 49th warmest out of 119. The following 70 Novembers were warmer:

1899,1900,1901,1902,1904,1905,1908,1909,1912,1913,1914,1915,1917,1921,1922,1923,1924,1927,1928

and 1931,1933,1934,1939,1941,1942,1944,1945,1946,1948,1949,1953,1954,1958,1960,1962,1963,1964,1965,1966,1967,1969

and 1971,1973,1974,1975,1977,1980,1981,1983,1984,1987,1988,1989,1990,1994,1995,1998,1999,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012

Only 4 states were “Above Normal”. Tennessee, for example, was over 3F below the 1901-2000 average and was 15th warmest out of 119.​

You can find the data here, at NOAA:

Climate at a Glance | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Even Florida has had warmer winters:

You've provided links to records for US states. GISS's statement re November 2013 regards global numbers.

Try again.

Where oh where do they get their numbers from? Daveman showed you the local records which are all cool. How does NOAA twist them into being warm???? What sort of algorithm does that?

Your willful ignorance is duly noted.

 

[daveman]

Are you an idiot? I bet it was cold at the poles as well. It was 80 today where I'm sitting and that's 26 degrees from the fooking equator. If you don't believe NASA/GISS, go find some other source with as much credibility and resources that DISAGREES with them. Don't send us fooking weather reports and claim you know what the fook you're talking about.

How about NOAA?

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48 | sunshine hours

70 Novembers Were Warmer Than November 2013 in the USA Lower 48

According to the NOAA November 2013 was 49th warmest out of 119. The following 70 Novembers were warmer:

1899,1900,1901,1902,1904,1905,1908,1909,1912,1913,1914,1915,1917,1921,1922,1923,1924,1927,1928

and 1931,1933,1934,1939,1941,1942,1944,1945,1946,1948,1949,1953,1954,1958,1960,1962,1963,1964,1965,1966,1967,1969

and 1971,1973,1974,1975,1977,1980,1981,1983,1984,1987,1988,1989,1990,1994,1995,1998,1999,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010,2011,2012

Only 4 states were “Above Normal”. Tennessee, for example, was over 3F below the 1901-2000 average and was 15th warmest out of 119.​

You can find the data here, at NOAA:

Climate at a Glance | National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)

Even Florida has had warmer winters:

You've provided links to records for US states. GISS's statement re November 2013 regards global numbers.

Try again.

Did you notice that Florida has had warmer winters, or are you just going to pretend that fact doesn't exist?

 

[Abraham3]

My god, you actually ARE that stupid.

 

[daveman]

My god, you actually ARE that stupid.

If I'm not mistaken, you brought up Florida.

Dumbass.

 

[Abraham3]

I brought up Florida in response to your attempt to show global warming wasn't taking place by citing the Wisconsin, daily weather reports. I was trying to show you how stupid you were being. But I guess I was just too subtle.

 

[daveman]

I brought up Florida in response to your attempt to show global warming wasn't taking place by citing the Wisconsin, daily weather reports. I was trying to show you how stupid you were being. But I guess I was just too subtle.

Yeah. I've tried showing you that global warming isn't taking place by posting science proving that global warming isn't taking place, but you're not interested in that, either.

 

[Abraham3]

I brought up Florida in response to your attempt to show global warming wasn't taking place by citing the Wisconsin, daily weather reports. I was trying to show you how stupid you were being. But I guess I was just too subtle.

Yeah. I've tried showing you that global warming isn't taking place by posting science proving that global warming isn't taking place, but you're not interested in that, either.

You've done no such thing. That you think you have is your problem, not ours.

 

[daveman]

I brought up Florida in response to your attempt to show global warming wasn't taking place by citing the Wisconsin, daily weather reports. I was trying to show you how stupid you were being. But I guess I was just too subtle.

Yeah. I've tried showing you that global warming isn't taking place by posting science proving that global warming isn't taking place, but you're not interested in that, either.

You've done no such thing. That you think you have is your problem, not ours.

Your little hissy fits do not alter reality, Skippy.

It's time you accepted that.

Run along now.

 

[Abraham3]

Run along now? You're going to stay here and pretend this thread actually has some merit?

What is wrong with you? The denier contention in this thread, that the US record somehow refutes the global record, has been shown to be factual nonsense. EVERYONE here KNOWS it. It was time to abandon the idea a long while ago... Skippy.

 

[daveman]

Run along now? You're going to stay here and pretend this thread actually has some merit?

What is wrong with you? The denier contention in this thread, that the US record somehow refutes the global record, has been shown to be factual nonsense. EVERYONE here KNOWS it. It was time to abandon the idea a long while ago... Skippy.

When climate "science" is built on altered data, fudge factors, and models that can't even predict what happened in the past...it's time it was abandoned.

 

[Abraham3]

When you attempt to support an argument with unsupported contentions, you fail.

 

[IanC]

Run along now? You're going to stay here and pretend this thread actually has some merit?

What is wrong with you? The denier contention in this thread, that the US record somehow refutes the global record, has been shown to be factual nonsense. EVERYONE here KNOWS it. It was time to abandon the idea a long while ago... Skippy.

The problem is....the US is the best measured area in the world. But is a small fraction of the area. Other places like Africa are larger but poorly covered and the data quality is crap. But Africa is mucch more important to the global temp even though there is a large but ignored uncertainty to it.

Last November was cool in the US but warm in Russia. Satellite coverage of Russia was nowhetes as warm as the staion data which again points to uncertainty issues.

Infilling of immeasured or scarcely measured grids often has a large effect on the overall result. I do not believe that the overall uncertainties of various areas has been presented to the public. This is amply shown by the ridiculous number of significant figures presented to the public. When you mix results with a precision of 1V with another result of 0.0001V, your answere has only the precision of the least prcise number..

 

[flacaltenn]

Run along now? You're going to stay here and pretend this thread actually has some merit?

What is wrong with you? The denier contention in this thread, that the US record somehow refutes the global record, has been shown to be factual nonsense. EVERYONE here KNOWS it. It was time to abandon the idea a long while ago... Skippy.

Actually the GLOBBAL records being celebrated are blown to crap by the satellite data. Take your pick BullWinkle... Its easy to find 0.05degC to make a record if youve got 4000 thermometers and are missing 20% of the earths surface in your data... Aint it?

 

[IanC]

In the 90's the stations actually used to determine global temp droped by more than 50%. With a dramatic rise in the official trend.

Every change is made with the best of intentions, they tell us, but never with side by side comparisons, and the old results become difficult to retrieve. Oddly enough every change seems to make it warmer.

 

[daveman]

When you attempt to support an argument with unsupported contentions, you fail.

Congratulations! You finally admit the failure of climate science!

 

[IanC]

When you attempt to support an argument with unsupported contentions, you fail.

Congratulations! You finally admit the failure of climate science!

Exactly. The available evidence does not support the exaggerated claims.