Getting the J&J Shot This Evening

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So, no shit, the girl goes to give me the shot, I feel the pinch, then I hear her say, "Oh, God" and I feel liquid running down my arm and I'm like, what happened? Apparently, the syringe or something wasn't screwed in all the way, so only half the dose when into my arm and rest ran down it. She said that has never happened before. I said the needle must not be able to penetrate my bicep muscle . Anyway, she had to ask the pharmacist what to do and she said to give me another one and I am like, that's safe, right? I'm getting a dose and a half now. The pharmacist said it was fine, so she gave me the second shot and I told her if I start walking up the sides of buildings and shooting spider webs out of my fingers I'll let them know.

 

[krichton]

Surely a dose and a half is better than one dose. More is always better!

 

[Flopper]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

 

[Concerned American]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

 

[Flopper]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

 

[westwall]

Why?

You triggered?

No. The covid virus has already mutated three times that we know of. Thus, the vaccine is mostly virtue signaling.

 

[MarathonMike]

Interesting factoid. One shot of Pfizer after 2 weeks is 92% effective. There are two independent studies that corroborated this result. That is significantly more effective than the JJ single shot vaccine which is around 72% effective.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

No. The covid virus has already mutated three times that we know of. Thus, the vaccine is mostly virtue signaling.

Is that your professional medical opinion?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Interesting factoid. One shot of Pfizer after 2 weeks is 92% effective. There are two independent studies that corroborated this result. That is significantly more effective than the JJ single shot vaccine which is around 72% effective.

But 100% effective in preventing hospitalization and/or death, which is ultimately the goal here.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It's been two days now and I've had no side affects at all. No ill feeling, no fatigue, not even a sore arm which a lot of people told me about.

 

[Concerned American]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

 

[The Purge]

 

[krichton]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

What first hand knowledge do you have that the CDC does not have access to?

 

[westwall]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

What first hand knowledge do you have that the CDC does not have access to?

The mortality rate for the planet has not increased. First pandemic ever that demographers in 100 years won't be able to prove happened.

 

[Concerned American]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

What first hand knowledge do you have that the CDC does not have access to?

Riddle me this, moron. For about ten years now, ~8K people die per day. 2.9M per year. Last year annual fatalities for ANY cause were 2.88M. If we were in a pandemic that had 500K fatalities, the annual count should increase by 500K. That did not happen. Little things, critical thinking, thinking for yourself instead of blindly following the "science" LMAO.

 

[Flopper]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

I wasn't trying to convince you, I don't think that's possible. I was just trying to keep you from misleading other who read your post. Flu and Pneumonia as well other respiratory diseases were down in 2020 because less people became infected due to shutdowns, social distancing, and mask wearing. There were more cardiac deaths and strokes, probably due to hesitancy to go to ERs. Unfortunately masks and social distancing does nothing to prevent strokes and hearth attacks.

More US cardiac deaths, less heart testing globally in COVID

www.cidrap.umn.edu

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Been one week now and nothing. Guess I was one of the lucky ones who were able to tolerate it, although, my mother suspects our family may actually be immune to COVID and the fact I had no side affects at all would reinforce that theory.

 

[Concerned American]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

I wasn't trying to convince you, I don't think that's possible. I was just trying to keep you from misleading other who read your post. Flu and Pneumonia as well other respiratory diseases were down in 2020 because less people became infected due to shutdowns, social distancing, and mask wearing. There were more cardiac deaths and strokes, probably due to hesitancy to go to ERs. Unfortunately masks and social distancing does nothing to prevent strokes and hearth attacks.

More US cardiac deaths, less heart testing globally in COVID

www.cidrap.umn.edu

So you agree that there was no pandemic. If the average daily death rate did not change due to covid, there was no pandemic--damn, scammed again.

 

[krichton]

Why?

You triggered?

I'm being serious...

Because I am an avid traveler and I’m going to have to get it if I want to keep traveling again. Many countries are going to make it a requirement to get in

It's not just global travelers that will need a vaccination. Hundreds of universities and colleges are requiring the vaccine to enter this fall. A broad majority of U.S. employers, 65%, plan to offer employees incentives to get vaccinated and 63% will require proof of vaccination. Although the current trajectory of vaccinations will dramatically reduce infections, the virus will continue to kill hundred or thousands a year in the US. Today over half the population has had at least one dose. We need to get that figure to over 70%. Then we approach herd immunity and virus will die out in the US. The major threat will then be a new more dangerous variant from broad. Thankfully RNA vaccines can easily be adapted for new variants.

Wow, sounds like the CDC/Biden recording. On what SCIENCE are you basing your bullshit projections on?

It's not science. It's math.
The only thing you need to know to calculate herd immunity is how many people, on average, are infected by each infected person. This value is called R0 (pronounced “R naught”). Once you have that, you can plug it into a simple formula for calculating the herd immunity threshold: 1 − 1/R0. Unfortunately it takes a lot of data to determine Ro and what you end up with is a range. That range leads to a value between 70% and 80% immunity to reach herd immunity.

Let’s say the R0 for COVID-19 is 2.5, meaning each infected person infects, on average, two and a half other people (a common estimate). In that case, the herd immunity threshold for COVID-19 is 0.6, or 60%. That means the virus will spread at an accelerating rate until, on average across different places, 60% of the population becomes immune.

Without A Vaccine, Herd Immunity Won’t Save Us

Daniel Arlein has already had COVID-19. In March, the 36-year-old small business owner and DJ, who lives in Brooklyn, tested positive for the viral infection an…

fivethirtyeight.com

You morons can't even agree on how many Americans died FROM covid. Everything the CDC or the WHO or Fauci have stated as "fact" during this whole scamdemic has been contradicted at least once. Ever hear of GIGO--pronounced GARBAGE IN--GARBAGE OUT.

Whenever there is an epidemic caused by a new virus, we have to rely on what we know about infections from similar viruses. For example wearing mask, social distancing and quarantining reduces transmission of airborne viruses. Initially we don't know exactly how it works but as data is collected we learn more about this particular virus. Herd immunity in March 2020 was an educated guess based based on SARS, another member of the Coronavirus family. After collecting data for serval months, we found the transmission characteristics and could calculate the percentage of vaccinations needed for herd immunity. Bottom line is recommendations change as we learn more about the virus which is exactly what has happen.

In regard to cause of death, we have good numbers on the number that died with serious cases of Covid-19 but like other diseases such as cancer or heath disease, there are disputes about exact cause of death. Almost everyone dies of heart failure but determining the cause of the heart failure when the person has multiple things going on is not always that easy. However, with Covid-19, the final phases of the disease that leads to death are unmistakable. Autopsies have shown that the attending physician's call is right in over 95% of deaths.

Not according to the CDC--Only 6% of all reported covid fatalities were due to covid. The remaining 94% were from underlying conditions with covid. Don't you find it amusing that seasonal flu, hearth failure and cancer have been virtually non-existant over the past year. Yeah, scamdemic--follow the science.

The viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong. This claim stems from an Aug. 26 update the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) posted on its website, which provides a detailed breakdown of the accompanying health conditions (known as comorbidities) and contributing causes of death reported in people who have died of the new coronavirus in the United States. The CDC noted that "For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned." Typical the in the end stages of Covid-19, underlying conditions will contribute to the death plus most patients will develop pneumonia, repertory failure, heart problems, and or septicemia. Seldom does a patient die with just Covid-19. This is true of many terminal diseases. Only 30% of terminal cancer patients actually die of the cancer.​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong​

Viral claim that only 6% of COVID-19 deaths were caused by the virus is flat-out wrong

This stat points to people who didn't have any underlying conditions or complications.

www.livescience.com

Fair enough--You believe what you want to believe and I will believe my actual first hand observations and experiences with covid. Seasonal flu, heart disease and cancer fatalities were at all time lows during the past year and I believe this is nothing more than massive globalist government over reach and WILL NOT be convinced otherwise. You can follow any guidance you choose, but I refuse to be deceived.

What first hand knowledge do you have that the CDC does not have access to?

Riddle me this, moron. For about ten years now, ~8K people die per day. 2.9M per year. Last year annual fatalities for ANY cause were 2.88M. If we were in a pandemic that had 500K fatalities, the annual count should increase by 500K. That did not happen. Little things, critical thinking, thinking for yourself instead of blindly following the "science" LMAO.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to follow science, instead let's just use our random, uneducated thoughts and opinions, which are not based on evidence or facts, or anything.
People, i give you exhibit A of what it looks like to be a right winger following conspiracy theories. They get all their "facts" from facebook memes, insanely partisan sites or some random place they'll come across, then they come on here and claim they use "critical thinking." It's the same pattern over and over. Stop getting your "facts" and your "critical thinking" from fake news facebook memes, you idiots!!!

Was 2020 a 'Typical Year' for US Deaths Despite COVID-19?

Here's another meme using misleading information to cast doubt on the seriousness of the coronavirus.

www.snopes.com

Historical US death toll chart uses incomplete data

Posts on social media are attempting to downplay the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic using a chart that shows that the 2

www.politifact.com

 

[Circe]

Had the JJ shot last month. So far so good. I feel good. I had the Covid back in January. I feel real well.

So you didn't need the shot at all. Didn't anyone explain that to you?

Of course they didn't.