For the longest time, I was worried about Bernie’s chances, but he is the best to defeat Trump

[mudwhistle]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

Bernie would have beat Trump if Hillary hadn't robbed him of the nomination.

But things are different this year.

Bernie keeps saying things that are crazy as Hell.....and nobody is going to get rid of an established president that does what he said he would do.

Not to mention the fact that America for the most part isn't crazy enough to allow an admitted socialist into the Oval Office...especially since Obama screwed our health care system to the extent that he did and lied about his socialist ties.

 

[Jitss617]

Because he’s a self-identified socialist? Nah. That’s old news is my point.

Nobody in his/her right mind votes for a fucking commie. That's why you commies try to hide your goose-stepping agenda.

No open commie will ever do much.

.

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Socialism is the Economic wing of communism..
answer this, when most businesses close, and people are laid off and welfare expands, you build housing. Your country needs to produce, how will you get people to work? Slavery?

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

Could very well be a possibility and with trump coming out today and announcing he may do away with student loan forgiveness maybe the younger voters will vote this election.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Bernie’s Red bona fides

In 1971, Mr. Sanders joined the Liberty Union Party (LUP), which called for a government takeover of all U.S. banks and private utility companies. In the mid-1970s, Mr. Sanders headed the American People’s History Society, which journalist Paul Sperry describes as “an organ for Marxist propaganda.”


As mayor of Burlington, Vermont, in the 1980s, Mr. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in honor of Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, where he honeymooned in 1988 with his second wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders.

Mr. Sanders set price controls, raised taxes and placed restrictions on the rights of landlords. He named Burlington’s softball team the “People’s Republic of Burlington.” Its minor league baseball team the “Vermont Reds” was a Cincinnati Reds affiliate, so that was just a propitious development for Bernie.

In 1980, he backed for president Socialist Workers Party candidate Andrew Pulley, a Marxist who called for a government takeover of America’s energy industry.

According to Accuracy In Media, Mr. Sanders collaborated with Soviet and East German “peace committees” whose goal was “to stop President Reagan’s deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe.”

In 1985, Mayor Sanders went to Nicaragua to celebrate the sixth anniversary of Daniel Ortega’s communist Sandinista regime and speak at an anti-American rally. He arranged for Burlington and Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, to be sister cities, and also visited communist Cuba.

When Ortega orchestrated mass arrests of critics and shut down opposition media, Mr. Sanders refused to condemn him, later saying the crackdown “makes sense to me.” He now supports Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, who has turned that once-prosperous country into a communist nightmare.


In 1989, Mr. Sanders addressed the U.S. Peace Council, a Communist Party USA front whose members were committed, according to the FBI, to advancing “the triumph of Soviet power in the U.S.”

As an admirer of crackdowns on pesky opposition media, Sen. Sanders in 2007 co-sponsored the Media Ownership Reform Act, which, among other things, would have re-established the misnamed Fairness Doctrine in order to muzzle conservative talk radio.

In 2011, Mr. Sanders was the first U.S. senator to support the violent Occupy Wall Street movement and opined: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who’s the banana republic now?”

Lest we write all this off as earlier exuberance, here’s a short list of his current positions:

Government takeover of health care and drug companies; “free” college tuition; “free” child care; confiscatory taxes on “the rich,” and much of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. That hare-brained scheme calls for a massive government expansion to do away with airplanes, the internal combustion engine, “farting cows” (thus, hamburgers), and all fossil fuels within 11 years. Don’t laugh; they’re serious.

It would take not only trillions of dollars but suspension of most basic liberties to do this. Karl Marx summarized communism as “abolition of private property,” which ultimately requires violence.

 

[Billy000]

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Bernie’s Red bona fides

In 1971, Mr. Sanders joined the Liberty Union Party (LUP), which called for a government takeover of all U.S. banks and private utility companies. In the mid-1970s, Mr. Sanders headed the American People’s History Society, which journalist Paul Sperry describes as “an organ for Marxist propaganda.”


As mayor of Burlington, Vermont, in the 1980s, Mr. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in honor of Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, where he honeymooned in 1988 with his second wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders.

Mr. Sanders set price controls, raised taxes and placed restrictions on the rights of landlords. He named Burlington’s softball team the “People’s Republic of Burlington.” Its minor league baseball team the “Vermont Reds” was a Cincinnati Reds affiliate, so that was just a propitious development for Bernie.

In 1980, he backed for president Socialist Workers Party candidate Andrew Pulley, a Marxist who called for a government takeover of America’s energy industry.

According to Accuracy In Media, Mr. Sanders collaborated with Soviet and East German “peace committees” whose goal was “to stop President Reagan’s deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe.”

In 1985, Mayor Sanders went to Nicaragua to celebrate the sixth anniversary of Daniel Ortega’s communist Sandinista regime and speak at an anti-American rally. He arranged for Burlington and Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, to be sister cities, and also visited communist Cuba.

When Ortega orchestrated mass arrests of critics and shut down opposition media, Mr. Sanders refused to condemn him, later saying the crackdown “makes sense to me.” He now supports Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, who has turned that once-prosperous country into a communist nightmare.


In 1989, Mr. Sanders addressed the U.S. Peace Council, a Communist Party USA front whose members were committed, according to the FBI, to advancing “the triumph of Soviet power in the U.S.”

As an admirer of crackdowns on pesky opposition media, Sen. Sanders in 2007 co-sponsored the Media Ownership Reform Act, which, among other things, would have re-established the misnamed Fairness Doctrine in order to muzzle conservative talk radio.

In 2011, Mr. Sanders was the first U.S. senator to support the violent Occupy Wall Street movement and opined: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who’s the banana republic now?”

Lest we write all this off as earlier exuberance, here’s a short list of his current positions:

Government takeover of health care and drug companies; “free” college tuition; “free” child care; confiscatory taxes on “the rich,” and much of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. That hare-brained scheme calls for a massive government expansion to do away with airplanes, the internal combustion engine, “farting cows” (thus, hamburgers), and all fossil fuels within 11 years. Don’t laugh; they’re serious.

It would take not only trillions of dollars but suspension of most basic liberties to do this. Karl Marx summarized communism as “abolition of private property,” which ultimately requires violence.

It’s well established he is a socialist, but obviously socialism doesn’t necessarily mean communism. You do get that right? He doesn’t want to abolish the private market nor does he want everyone paid the same regardless of the work. You do understand that nuance right?

 

[JGalt]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

All Americans don't have a clue who he is and what he stands for. Those who support him don't even have a clue what "socialism" is, or anything about it's long history of failure.

Hypotheticals don't win election, results and accomplishment win elections. And Bernie Sanders has not accomplishments to speak of, other than a handful of pie in the sky empty promises that would fail just as much in this country as they have others.

That being said, Donald Trump would shred him in a debate, and make him look like the idiot he really is. Probably even bring the old cocksucker to tears or cause him another heart attack.

No clearly you don’t know what socialism is lol. It’s always been part of the framework of this country. Hell, Trump has proven to be a bigger socialist than Obama. He gave 10s of billions in bailout to farmers. It was twice as big as Obama’s bailout.

Never mind the voters, Bernie should be more worried about the DNC than he should the voters. The Democrat Party will never allow him to get the nomination.

Mark my words: The Democrat Party will eventually wash their hands of him because they really don't want to be associated with the socialist lunatic fringe.

 

[okfine]

Because he’s a self-identified socialist? Nah. That’s old news is my point.

Nobody in his/her right mind votes for a fucking commie. That's why you commies try to hide your goose-stepping agenda.

No open commie will ever do much.

.

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Socialism is the Economic wing of communism..
answer this, when most businesses close, and people are laid off and welfare expands, you build housing. Your country needs to produce, how will you get people to work? Slavery?

So you think if someone other than Trump is president that all will revert, as in employment. Give me a clue that it will.

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

Whatever he is and his proposed Medicare for All will never get passed isn't one repub that will vote for it and several dems will not. If there was a prayer in hell and it happened to pass it would take around 8 to 10 years to implement.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Bernie’s Red bona fides

In 1971, Mr. Sanders joined the Liberty Union Party (LUP), which called for a government takeover of all U.S. banks and private utility companies. In the mid-1970s, Mr. Sanders headed the American People’s History Society, which journalist Paul Sperry describes as “an organ for Marxist propaganda.”


As mayor of Burlington, Vermont, in the 1980s, Mr. Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in honor of Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, where he honeymooned in 1988 with his second wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders.

Mr. Sanders set price controls, raised taxes and placed restrictions on the rights of landlords. He named Burlington’s softball team the “People’s Republic of Burlington.” Its minor league baseball team the “Vermont Reds” was a Cincinnati Reds affiliate, so that was just a propitious development for Bernie.

In 1980, he backed for president Socialist Workers Party candidate Andrew Pulley, a Marxist who called for a government takeover of America’s energy industry.

According to Accuracy In Media, Mr. Sanders collaborated with Soviet and East German “peace committees” whose goal was “to stop President Reagan’s deployment of nuclear missiles in Europe.”

In 1985, Mayor Sanders went to Nicaragua to celebrate the sixth anniversary of Daniel Ortega’s communist Sandinista regime and speak at an anti-American rally. He arranged for Burlington and Puerto Cabezas, Nicaragua, to be sister cities, and also visited communist Cuba.

When Ortega orchestrated mass arrests of critics and shut down opposition media, Mr. Sanders refused to condemn him, later saying the crackdown “makes sense to me.” He now supports Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, who has turned that once-prosperous country into a communist nightmare.


In 1989, Mr. Sanders addressed the U.S. Peace Council, a Communist Party USA front whose members were committed, according to the FBI, to advancing “the triumph of Soviet power in the U.S.”

As an admirer of crackdowns on pesky opposition media, Sen. Sanders in 2007 co-sponsored the Media Ownership Reform Act, which, among other things, would have re-established the misnamed Fairness Doctrine in order to muzzle conservative talk radio.

In 2011, Mr. Sanders was the first U.S. senator to support the violent Occupy Wall Street movement and opined: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who’s the banana republic now?”

Lest we write all this off as earlier exuberance, here’s a short list of his current positions:

Government takeover of health care and drug companies; “free” college tuition; “free” child care; confiscatory taxes on “the rich,” and much of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal. That hare-brained scheme calls for a massive government expansion to do away with airplanes, the internal combustion engine, “farting cows” (thus, hamburgers), and all fossil fuels within 11 years. Don’t laugh; they’re serious.

It would take not only trillions of dollars but suspension of most basic liberties to do this. Karl Marx summarized communism as “abolition of private property,” which ultimately requires violence.

It’s well established he is a socialist, but obviously socialism doesn’t necessarily mean communism. You do get that right? He doesn’t want to abolish the private market nor does he want everyone paid the same regardless of the work. You do understand that nuance right?

There is very little difference. One is a state of anarchy (which will never last).

Karl Marx was such a fucking idiot that he believed that socialism lead to communism. It's actually the reverse. Communism leads to socialism. Anarchy can never exist for long. The state will always rear its ugly fucking head.

Don't try to lecture me on communism or socialism. They are one in the same and breed the same disaster.

The only solution to commies is to fucking kill them all because they never give up or go away and they cannot listen to any form of reason. They must die.

Kill a commie for mommy.

.

 

[okfine]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

Could very well be a possibility and with trump coming out today and announcing he may do away with student loan forgiveness maybe the younger voters will vote this election.

I believe the biggest voting block is age 18-29 already

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

I don't think Trump loses, but Trump could falter down the stretch with unforced errors. As an example, today Trump repeated the "in-some-countries-dealers-get-the-death-penalty" bit, and used Taiwan and even China as examples of where this works and there aren't problems in these countries. You can bet that come the general election, the media will all over these issues to paint him as they want. He's not invincible, so he needs to balance his message especially since his opposition is so broad and fierce.

I view this as damaging to the outreach he has worked on, when black voters are viewing him as someone who wants to use common sense with the justice system, not the "lock them up and throw away the key" positions they view GOP as having.

Maybe he thinks doing this places bigger distance between him and the Dem candidates, and, it helps him in the Rustbelt communities impacted by these poisons. From a political standpoint, in my opinion, it's an unnecessary road to go down He doesn't need to present this position to prove he support Rule of Law, everyone assumes he will be moreso than his Dem opponent, so why go further? What demographic are you trying to pick up at the expense of another?

Also, the $100M given to China re: the Coronavirus outbreak seems at least odd, considering the Communist govt. wealth. Again, this could get replayed during the G.E.

There is some cross over with Bernie and Trump supporters. Especially on 2nd Amendment rights and the general role as the outsider. I won't ever count out anyone, but I think Bernie faces a big obstacle with the DNC. If Trump can stay on message and not allow himself to be painted as a traditional GOP but instead, more libertarian (not full libertarian of course), he will win. If he fumbles, anything is possible, even with a great economy.

Yep, Bernie was for 2 amendment before Trump was and he still is very pro.

 

[JGalt]

Because he’s a self-identified socialist? Nah. That’s old news is my point.

Nobody in his/her right mind votes for a fucking commie. That's why you commies try to hide your goose-stepping agenda.

No open commie will ever do much.

.

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Socialism is the Economic wing of communism..
answer this, when most businesses close, and people are laid off and welfare expands, you build housing. Your country needs to produce, how will you get people to work? Slavery?

So you think if someone other than Trump is president that all will revert, as in employment. Give me a clue that it will.

Who creates employment? Businesses and industries, not the government. And when the government starts raising taxes on businesses and industries, forcing them to pay some idiotic "living wage", and increasing regulations on them, they stop hiring. They go out of business or go offshore.

Socialism is not "business-friendly". Neither are any of the other Democratic candidates, for that matter. All they would do is fuck up the good thing we have going now.

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

Could very well be a possibility and with trump coming out today and announcing he may do away with student loan forgiveness maybe the younger voters will vote this election.

I believe the biggest voting block is age 18-29 already

But will they vote? Very few.

 

[JGalt]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

I don't think Trump loses, but Trump could falter down the stretch with unforced errors. As an example, today Trump repeated the "in-some-countries-dealers-get-the-death-penalty" bit, and used Taiwan and even China as examples of where this works and there aren't problems in these countries. You can bet that come the general election, the media will all over these issues to paint him as they want. He's not invincible, so he needs to balance his message especially since his opposition is so broad and fierce.

I view this as damaging to the outreach he has worked on, when black voters are viewing him as someone who wants to use common sense with the justice system, not the "lock them up and throw away the key" positions they view GOP as having.

Maybe he thinks doing this places bigger distance between him and the Dem candidates, and, it helps him in the Rustbelt communities impacted by these poisons. From a political standpoint, in my opinion, it's an unnecessary road to go down He doesn't need to present this position to prove he support Rule of Law, everyone assumes he will be moreso than his Dem opponent, so why go further? What demographic are you trying to pick up at the expense of another?

Also, the $100M given to China re: the Coronavirus outbreak seems at least odd, considering the Communist govt. wealth. Again, this could get replayed during the G.E.

There is some cross over with Bernie and Trump supporters. Especially on 2nd Amendment rights and the general role as the outsider. I won't ever count out anyone, but I think Bernie faces a big obstacle with the DNC. If Trump can stay on message and not allow himself to be painted as a traditional GOP but instead, more libertarian (not full libertarian of course), he will win. If he fumbles, anything is possible, even with a great economy.

Yep, Bernie was for 2 amendment before Trump was and he still is very pro.

You used the words "Bernie" and "2nd Amendment" in the same sentence."

 

[Jitss617]

Because he’s a self-identified socialist? Nah. That’s old news is my point.

Nobody in his/her right mind votes for a fucking commie. That's why you commies try to hide your goose-stepping agenda.

No open commie will ever do much.

.

What, specifically, in Bernie’s platform is communist?

Socialism is the Economic wing of communism..
answer this, when most businesses close, and people are laid off and welfare expands, you build housing. Your country needs to produce, how will you get people to work? Slavery?

So you think if someone other than Trump is president that all will revert, as in employment. Give me a clue that it will.

Answer my question, if you lay me off, give me house and a check, how will you get me to produce?

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

I don't think Trump loses, but Trump could falter down the stretch with unforced errors. As an example, today Trump repeated the "in-some-countries-dealers-get-the-death-penalty" bit, and used Taiwan and even China as examples of where this works and there aren't problems in these countries. You can bet that come the general election, the media will all over these issues to paint him as they want. He's not invincible, so he needs to balance his message especially since his opposition is so broad and fierce.

I view this as damaging to the outreach he has worked on, when black voters are viewing him as someone who wants to use common sense with the justice system, not the "lock them up and throw away the key" positions they view GOP as having.

Maybe he thinks doing this places bigger distance between him and the Dem candidates, and, it helps him in the Rustbelt communities impacted by these poisons. From a political standpoint, in my opinion, it's an unnecessary road to go down He doesn't need to present this position to prove he support Rule of Law, everyone assumes he will be moreso than his Dem opponent, so why go further? What demographic are you trying to pick up at the expense of another?

Also, the $100M given to China re: the Coronavirus outbreak seems at least odd, considering the Communist govt. wealth. Again, this could get replayed during the G.E.

There is some cross over with Bernie and Trump supporters. Especially on 2nd Amendment rights and the general role as the outsider. I won't ever count out anyone, but I think Bernie faces a big obstacle with the DNC. If Trump can stay on message and not allow himself to be painted as a traditional GOP but instead, more libertarian (not full libertarian of course), he will win. If he fumbles, anything is possible, even with a great economy.

Yep, Bernie was for 2 amendment before Trump was and he still is very pro.

Since you think this is funny you are the one that knows very little about Bernie.

 

[debbiedowner]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

I don't think Trump loses, but Trump could falter down the stretch with unforced errors. As an example, today Trump repeated the "in-some-countries-dealers-get-the-death-penalty" bit, and used Taiwan and even China as examples of where this works and there aren't problems in these countries. You can bet that come the general election, the media will all over these issues to paint him as they want. He's not invincible, so he needs to balance his message especially since his opposition is so broad and fierce.

I view this as damaging to the outreach he has worked on, when black voters are viewing him as someone who wants to use common sense with the justice system, not the "lock them up and throw away the key" positions they view GOP as having.

Maybe he thinks doing this places bigger distance between him and the Dem candidates, and, it helps him in the Rustbelt communities impacted by these poisons. From a political standpoint, in my opinion, it's an unnecessary road to go down He doesn't need to present this position to prove he support Rule of Law, everyone assumes he will be moreso than his Dem opponent, so why go further? What demographic are you trying to pick up at the expense of another?

Also, the $100M given to China re: the Coronavirus outbreak seems at least odd, considering the Communist govt. wealth. Again, this could get replayed during the G.E.

There is some cross over with Bernie and Trump supporters. Especially on 2nd Amendment rights and the general role as the outsider. I won't ever count out anyone, but I think Bernie faces a big obstacle with the DNC. If Trump can stay on message and not allow himself to be painted as a traditional GOP but instead, more libertarian (not full libertarian of course), he will win. If he fumbles, anything is possible, even with a great economy.

Yep, Bernie was for 2 amendment before Trump was and he still is very pro.

You used the words "Bernie" and "2nd Amendment" in the same sentence."

Then you don't know shit about Bernie. Just tell me when trump became so pro 2 amendment?

 

[Norman]

Even moderate democrats won't vote for a socialist/communist.

He has zero chance, you are too far up in your own welfare mooching head.

 

[Jitss617]

Every shit hole in America is run by democrats

the college debt was created by democrats

The health care mess was created by democrats


Democrats hate Walmart. But create tiny Walmart’s all around Boston kicking the ordinary entrepreneurs out.

democrats are done! I want to be a campaign manager!

 

[shockedcanadian]

Perhaps a more moderate democrat is needed in the race, but Biden is old news and Pete just doesn’t have the star power Bernie has. Like Trump, he has an army of enthusiastic supporters.

It’s already been well established that he is a socialist so the thinking that alone will kill his chances is overblown. All Americans already know who he is and what he stands for. Despite this, he beats Trump In hypothetical match up polls and is the most popular politician in the country.

I’m not saying I have total confidence he will win, but I do think he has the best chance out of all the other dem candidates.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has topped Democrats' list of most-liked 2020 candidates, according to new survey

I don't think Trump loses, but Trump could falter down the stretch with unforced errors. As an example, today Trump repeated the "in-some-countries-dealers-get-the-death-penalty" bit, and used Taiwan and even China as examples of where this works and there aren't problems in these countries. You can bet that come the general election, the media will all over these issues to paint him as they want. He's not invincible, so he needs to balance his message especially since his opposition is so broad and fierce.

I view this as damaging to the outreach he has worked on, when black voters are viewing him as someone who wants to use common sense with the justice system, not the "lock them up and throw away the key" positions they view GOP as having.

Maybe he thinks doing this places bigger distance between him and the Dem candidates, and, it helps him in the Rustbelt communities impacted by these poisons. From a political standpoint, in my opinion, it's an unnecessary road to go down He doesn't need to present this position to prove he support Rule of Law, everyone assumes he will be moreso than his Dem opponent, so why go further? What demographic are you trying to pick up at the expense of another?

Also, the $100M given to China re: the Coronavirus outbreak seems at least odd, considering the Communist govt. wealth. Again, this could get replayed during the G.E.

There is some cross over with Bernie and Trump supporters. Especially on 2nd Amendment rights and the general role as the outsider. I won't ever count out anyone, but I think Bernie faces a big obstacle with the DNC. If Trump can stay on message and not allow himself to be painted as a traditional GOP but instead, more libertarian (not full libertarian of course), he will win. If he fumbles, anything is possible, even with a great economy.

Yep, Bernie was for 2 amendment before Trump was and he still is very pro.

You used the words "Bernie" and "2nd Amendment" in the same sentence."

Well he said he wants to push the issue down to the states and suggested 99.9% of gun owners are law abiding, so he doesn't want extreme positions.

I guess we will see. He's not about confiscation from what I have heard. I also read he had donations from the NRA, but I am going on memory.