For argument's sake, let's say BLM is EVIL.

[Mac1958]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.

Except it is not true. White people are no different than any other group except they hold cultural power in this country. That generally means they get to control the narratives and the rules. Other than that we all have our bigotires.

What you stated is outrageously blatant lie.

And yes, it is the white nation, what do you god damn think? What, are we supposed to have the Japanese narratives? Well, maybe that would actually be good idea, since Japanese people would accurately identify what you posted as total nonsense and lies.

What specifically is a lie?

It is a white majority nation because we took by force and deceit from it’s native inhabitants (a trait common to the human race as a whole). So what narratives are there? Those of the dominant white European culture, those of the descendents of black slaves who did not attain full rights under law until the civil rights act; the narratives of Japanese Americans who were interned during WW2, the narratives of our indiginous peoples who suffered through a history of broken treaties and land confiscation....and so many more. All make up America but for some reason acknowledging brings about an almost anaphylactic reaction from some in the dominant white culture.

Everything that was stated in your STUPID ASS text was a lie. There is a big difference between the races for starters, in almost any metric that is looked at.

There is a big difference, hmmmm.....well that might say more about you than me, I am thinking since “black” in America means anyone with any percentage of African blood...

As for how the nation was founded, who fucking cares. If you are not fine with it leave, it sounds like you weren't an American anyway. Chances are you won't come by any nation with less troubled past, but at least plenty will execute you for treason, the non-white ones especially.

Cool. Doesn’t mean you have the right to discount other American narratives ... nor, for that matter, dou you get to decide who is or is not an American.

As president Trump outlines in his speech, it is because of American achievement that you even have time to formulate the whinery you have just submitted. We dragged humanity out of disease, poverty and ignorance. No, not you, you have not achieved SHIT by the looks of the text. And no one with your destructive far-left mentality ever will. That is precisely why the whinery.

That achievement was built by all Americans, including the descendents of Africans, you seem to imply are racially inferior, the many immigrants .... Irish, Polish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Lebanese, Somali, Cuban....more than I can think of off the top of my head, our indiginous peoples...all of us.

Coyote, you again display your fundamental confusions about what America is. See, I have the right to discount ANY narrative I want, for ANY reason. The anti-American narratives of yours will get placed in a dumpster. Finally, yes I can observe who is, and is not an American. You don't seem even half American.

You can learn about the achievements of African Americans all over Africa - they still have more slaves than were ever brought here - and don't even have drinking water in many places. It was mostly the Western Europeans for whom and by whom the nation was built, based on superior American values of freedom. Everything you state from start to finish is systematically NONSENSE.

Having been born and raised in this country, I have absolutely no confusion about this country and who built it nor am I confused about what constitutes an American.

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The country was more than 80% white for most of its history.

Not only were you confused then, you are still confused now. That picture might as well be from Africa, which looks very different from America, with very different ideals.

The country is changing, and that's the way it's going to be.

The fact that this makes people like you more paranoid and more miserable is perfectly fine.

This is your final primal scream, whether Trump wins or not. You really should be spending more time enjoying it.

 

[Coyote]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.

Except it is not true. White people are no different than any other group except they hold cultural power in this country. That generally means they get to control the narratives and the rules. Other than that we all have our bigotires.

What you stated is outrageously blatant lie.

And yes, it is the white nation, what do you god damn think? What, are we supposed to have the Japanese narratives? Well, maybe that would actually be good idea, since Japanese people would accurately identify what you posted as total nonsense and lies.

What specifically is a lie?

It is a white majority nation because we took by force and deceit from it’s native inhabitants (a trait common to the human race as a whole). So what narratives are there? Those of the dominant white European culture, those of the descendents of black slaves who did not attain full rights under law until the civil rights act; the narratives of Japanese Americans who were interned during WW2, the narratives of our indiginous peoples who suffered through a history of broken treaties and land confiscation....and so many more. All make up America but for some reason acknowledging brings about an almost anaphylactic reaction from some in the dominant white culture.

Everything that was stated in your STUPID ASS text was a lie. There is a big difference between the races for starters, in almost any metric that is looked at.

There is a big difference, hmmmm.....well that might say more about you than me, I am thinking since “black” in America means anyone with any percentage of African blood...

As for how the nation was founded, who fucking cares. If you are not fine with it leave, it sounds like you weren't an American anyway. Chances are you won't come by any nation with less troubled past, but at least plenty will execute you for treason, the non-white ones especially.

Cool. Doesn’t mean you have the right to discount other American narratives ... nor, for that matter, dou you get to decide who is or is not an American.

As president Trump outlines in his speech, it is because of American achievement that you even have time to formulate the whinery you have just submitted. We dragged humanity out of disease, poverty and ignorance. No, not you, you have not achieved SHIT by the looks of the text. And no one with your destructive far-left mentality ever will. That is precisely why the whinery.

That achievement was built by all Americans, including the descendents of Africans, you seem to imply are racially inferior, the many immigrants .... Irish, Polish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Lebanese, Somali, Cuban....more than I can think of off the top of my head, our indiginous peoples...all of us.

Coyote, you again display your fundamental confusions about what America is. See, I have the right to discount ANY narrative I want, for ANY reason. The anti-American narratives of yours will get placed in a dumpster. Finally, yes I can observe who is, and is not an American. You don't seem even half American.

You can learn about the achievements of African Americans all over Africa - they still have more slaves than were ever brought here - and don't even have drinking water in many places. It was mostly the Western Europeans for whom and by whom the nation was built, based on superior American values of freedom. Everything you state from start to finish is systematically NONSENSE.

Having been born and raised in this country, I have absolutely no confusion about this country and who built it nor am I confused about what constitutes an American.

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The country was more than 80% white for most of its history.

Not only were you confused then, you are still confused now. That picture might as well be from Africa, which looks very different from America, with very different ideals.

That is a bit ignorant. “That picture” ... which one? The one of the slave family? Those living conditions were imposed on them by their white masters who lived off their free labor. It doesn’t matter if it was majority white...every one of those AMERICANS built it.

 

[Norman]

Some ignoramuses really need a history lesson.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

 

[Coyote]

Who cares if BLM’s founder espouses Marxism? Like any political ideology it has its good and bad points. In a world defined by an increasing wealth gap, a government (regardless of party) Increasingly defined by, paid by, and controlled by Oligarchs, and the steady erosion of worker’s rights, there is something to be said for Marxism.

 

[Coyote]

Some ignoramuses really need a history lesson.

Don‘t be afraid to admit it...you slept through history class didn’t you?

 

[Coyote]

No, they are worse than Nazis. The grand parents were smart people asking meaningful questions in comparison.

I know that you believe that BLM are worse than the Nazis.

I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just observing, in amazement.

It would be anti-American to believe that the people who actually are burning up American ground, and are admitted communists, would not be worse.

Of course they are worse than Nazis. They are even more socialist than Nazis were.

Which “admitted communists”?

 

[Norman]

Some ignoramuses really need a history lesson.

Don‘t be afraid to admit it...you slept through history class didn’t you?

The facts are the facts, Coyote. Your picture of America being built by mostly black people is complete horseshit. The black people were almost irrelevant - I congratulate the ones who did build something - but let that not detract from the overall point.

As America becomes more and more multi-racial it will become more and more like Brazil. But let immigration never be questioned - democrats need votes so it is fine to destroy the country. Now it appears that was the plan all along.

 

[Norman]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.

Except it is not true. White people are no different than any other group except they hold cultural power in this country. That generally means they get to control the narratives and the rules. Other than that we all have our bigotires.

What you stated is outrageously blatant lie.

And yes, it is the white nation, what do you god damn think? What, are we supposed to have the Japanese narratives? Well, maybe that would actually be good idea, since Japanese people would accurately identify what you posted as total nonsense and lies.

What specifically is a lie?

It is a white majority nation because we took by force and deceit from it’s native inhabitants (a trait common to the human race as a whole). So what narratives are there? Those of the dominant white European culture, those of the descendents of black slaves who did not attain full rights under law until the civil rights act; the narratives of Japanese Americans who were interned during WW2, the narratives of our indiginous peoples who suffered through a history of broken treaties and land confiscation....and so many more. All make up America but for some reason acknowledging brings about an almost anaphylactic reaction from some in the dominant white culture.

Everything that was stated in your STUPID ASS text was a lie. There is a big difference between the races for starters, in almost any metric that is looked at.

There is a big difference, hmmmm.....well that might say more about you than me, I am thinking since “black” in America means anyone with any percentage of African blood...

As for how the nation was founded, who fucking cares. If you are not fine with it leave, it sounds like you weren't an American anyway. Chances are you won't come by any nation with less troubled past, but at least plenty will execute you for treason, the non-white ones especially.

Cool. Doesn’t mean you have the right to discount other American narratives ... nor, for that matter, dou you get to decide who is or is not an American.

As president Trump outlines in his speech, it is because of American achievement that you even have time to formulate the whinery you have just submitted. We dragged humanity out of disease, poverty and ignorance. No, not you, you have not achieved SHIT by the looks of the text. And no one with your destructive far-left mentality ever will. That is precisely why the whinery.

That achievement was built by all Americans, including the descendents of Africans, you seem to imply are racially inferior, the many immigrants .... Irish, Polish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Lebanese, Somali, Cuban....more than I can think of off the top of my head, our indiginous peoples...all of us.

Coyote, you again display your fundamental confusions about what America is. See, I have the right to discount ANY narrative I want, for ANY reason. The anti-American narratives of yours will get placed in a dumpster. Finally, yes I can observe who is, and is not an American. You don't seem even half American.

You can learn about the achievements of African Americans all over Africa - they still have more slaves than were ever brought here - and don't even have drinking water in many places. It was mostly the Western Europeans for whom and by whom the nation was built, based on superior American values of freedom. Everything you state from start to finish is systematically NONSENSE.

Having been born and raised in this country, I have absolutely no confusion about this country and who built it nor am I confused about what constitutes an American.

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The country was more than 80% white for most of its history.

Not only were you confused then, you are still confused now. That picture might as well be from Africa, which looks very different from America, with very different ideals.

The country is changing, and that's the way it's going to be.

The fact that this makes people like you more paranoid and more miserable is perfectly fine.

This is your final primal scream, whether Trump wins or not. You really should be spending more time enjoying it.

When it's your house on fire - I will fucking laugh. You deserve what is coming anti-American bigot.

 

[impuretrash]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing.

You can't read the news, watch TV, look at social media or buy a damn box of laundry detergent without being reminded of BLM so why shouldn't it be a topic of discussion?

calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

It's the moderate "right", the neocons especially that makes a habit of repeating the cheesy line "democrats are the true racists" because they live in a constant state of fear. The rest of us are numb to the accusation. Since when did it become politically extreme to oppose an extreme left wing agenda like destroying capitalism, abolishing the police, setting up autonomous zones and tearing down Mount Rushmore?

How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward?

What are you asking us for? You and the mainstream media already deemed anyone who is against the chaos besetting this country as racist extremists. We don't get to have a say in the future of this country.

There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

White racism is usually expressed only through whispers at the dinner table and edgy jokes on the internet but black racism is much more widespread and pernicious. What do we do about that?

 

[Mac1958]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.

Except it is not true. White people are no different than any other group except they hold cultural power in this country. That generally means they get to control the narratives and the rules. Other than that we all have our bigotires.

What you stated is outrageously blatant lie.

And yes, it is the white nation, what do you god damn think? What, are we supposed to have the Japanese narratives? Well, maybe that would actually be good idea, since Japanese people would accurately identify what you posted as total nonsense and lies.

What specifically is a lie?

It is a white majority nation because we took by force and deceit from it’s native inhabitants (a trait common to the human race as a whole). So what narratives are there? Those of the dominant white European culture, those of the descendents of black slaves who did not attain full rights under law until the civil rights act; the narratives of Japanese Americans who were interned during WW2, the narratives of our indiginous peoples who suffered through a history of broken treaties and land confiscation....and so many more. All make up America but for some reason acknowledging brings about an almost anaphylactic reaction from some in the dominant white culture.

Everything that was stated in your STUPID ASS text was a lie. There is a big difference between the races for starters, in almost any metric that is looked at.

There is a big difference, hmmmm.....well that might say more about you than me, I am thinking since “black” in America means anyone with any percentage of African blood...

As for how the nation was founded, who fucking cares. If you are not fine with it leave, it sounds like you weren't an American anyway. Chances are you won't come by any nation with less troubled past, but at least plenty will execute you for treason, the non-white ones especially.

Cool. Doesn’t mean you have the right to discount other American narratives ... nor, for that matter, dou you get to decide who is or is not an American.

As president Trump outlines in his speech, it is because of American achievement that you even have time to formulate the whinery you have just submitted. We dragged humanity out of disease, poverty and ignorance. No, not you, you have not achieved SHIT by the looks of the text. And no one with your destructive far-left mentality ever will. That is precisely why the whinery.

That achievement was built by all Americans, including the descendents of Africans, you seem to imply are racially inferior, the many immigrants .... Irish, Polish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Lebanese, Somali, Cuban....more than I can think of off the top of my head, our indiginous peoples...all of us.

Coyote, you again display your fundamental confusions about what America is. See, I have the right to discount ANY narrative I want, for ANY reason. The anti-American narratives of yours will get placed in a dumpster. Finally, yes I can observe who is, and is not an American. You don't seem even half American.

You can learn about the achievements of African Americans all over Africa - they still have more slaves than were ever brought here - and don't even have drinking water in many places. It was mostly the Western Europeans for whom and by whom the nation was built, based on superior American values of freedom. Everything you state from start to finish is systematically NONSENSE.

Having been born and raised in this country, I have absolutely no confusion about this country and who built it nor am I confused about what constitutes an American.

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The country was more than 80% white for most of its history.

Not only were you confused then, you are still confused now. That picture might as well be from Africa, which looks very different from America, with very different ideals.

The country is changing, and that's the way it's going to be.

The fact that this makes people like you more paranoid and more miserable is perfectly fine.

This is your final primal scream, whether Trump wins or not. You really should be spending more time enjoying it.

When it's your house on fire - I will fucking laugh. You deserve what is coming anti-American bigot.

You laugh later. I'm laughing now at your paranoia.

 

[Norman]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Nothing is going to solve our race issue in this country...except time. There will be no magic moment where it's OK. We have been so narrowly focused on the Black issue..that we have forgotten that there are other races in this country as well. Most of the Hispanics I've talked to are unimpressed with BLM....I don't see all that many other races walking in solidarity...lots of woke White people...but very few Asians or Hispanic folk.

They too want a piece of the pie..they too have their horror story history of White oppression.

this is going to be a long road..and probably won't end until everyone is brown with slanted eyes...LOL!

Let me guess what the "race issue" is according to you. It is that there are white people - who founded the country - still in the country.

I don't expect the race issue ever to get better when it seems that only whites are able to treat people based on the content of their character and not the amount of the melanin content. Others seem to be like you - portraying whites as evil oppressors despite being massively uplifted by their wealth - and themselves as owed a shake down.

Except it is not true. White people are no different than any other group except they hold cultural power in this country. That generally means they get to control the narratives and the rules. Other than that we all have our bigotires.

What you stated is outrageously blatant lie.

And yes, it is the white nation, what do you god damn think? What, are we supposed to have the Japanese narratives? Well, maybe that would actually be good idea, since Japanese people would accurately identify what you posted as total nonsense and lies.

What specifically is a lie?

It is a white majority nation because we took by force and deceit from it’s native inhabitants (a trait common to the human race as a whole). So what narratives are there? Those of the dominant white European culture, those of the descendents of black slaves who did not attain full rights under law until the civil rights act; the narratives of Japanese Americans who were interned during WW2, the narratives of our indiginous peoples who suffered through a history of broken treaties and land confiscation....and so many more. All make up America but for some reason acknowledging brings about an almost anaphylactic reaction from some in the dominant white culture.

Everything that was stated in your STUPID ASS text was a lie. There is a big difference between the races for starters, in almost any metric that is looked at.

There is a big difference, hmmmm.....well that might say more about you than me, I am thinking since “black” in America means anyone with any percentage of African blood...

As for how the nation was founded, who fucking cares. If you are not fine with it leave, it sounds like you weren't an American anyway. Chances are you won't come by any nation with less troubled past, but at least plenty will execute you for treason, the non-white ones especially.

Cool. Doesn’t mean you have the right to discount other American narratives ... nor, for that matter, dou you get to decide who is or is not an American.

As president Trump outlines in his speech, it is because of American achievement that you even have time to formulate the whinery you have just submitted. We dragged humanity out of disease, poverty and ignorance. No, not you, you have not achieved SHIT by the looks of the text. And no one with your destructive far-left mentality ever will. That is precisely why the whinery.

That achievement was built by all Americans, including the descendents of Africans, you seem to imply are racially inferior, the many immigrants .... Irish, Polish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Lebanese, Somali, Cuban....more than I can think of off the top of my head, our indiginous peoples...all of us.

Coyote, you again display your fundamental confusions about what America is. See, I have the right to discount ANY narrative I want, for ANY reason. The anti-American narratives of yours will get placed in a dumpster. Finally, yes I can observe who is, and is not an American. You don't seem even half American.

You can learn about the achievements of African Americans all over Africa - they still have more slaves than were ever brought here - and don't even have drinking water in many places. It was mostly the Western Europeans for whom and by whom the nation was built, based on superior American values of freedom. Everything you state from start to finish is systematically NONSENSE.

Having been born and raised in this country, I have absolutely no confusion about this country and who built it nor am I confused about what constitutes an American.

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The country was more than 80% white for most of its history.

Not only were you confused then, you are still confused now. That picture might as well be from Africa, which looks very different from America, with very different ideals.

The country is changing, and that's the way it's going to be.

The fact that this makes people like you more paranoid and more miserable is perfectly fine.

This is your final primal scream, whether Trump wins or not. You really should be spending more time enjoying it.

When it's your house on fire - I will fucking laugh. You deserve what is coming anti-American bigot.

You laugh later. I'm laughing now at your paranoia.

Laugh all you want.

Historically, mass immigration always leads to war. And the cities are already burning.

I am not paranoid, you are fucking stupid. But everyone knew that already.

 

[Correll]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing.

You can't read the news, watch TV, look at social media or buy a damn box of laundry detergent without being reminded of BLM so why shouldn't it be a topic of discussion?

calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

It's the moderate "right", the neocons especially that makes a habit of repeating the cheesy line "democrats are the true racists" because they live in a constant state of fear. The rest of us are numb to the accusation. Since when did it become politically extreme to oppose an extreme left wing agenda like destroying capitalism, abolishing the police, setting up autonomous zones and tearing down Mount Rushmore?

How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward?

What are you asking us for? You and the mainstream media already deemed anyone who is against the chaos besetting this country as racist extremists. We don't get to have a say in the future of this country.

There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

White racism is usually expressed only through whispers at the dinner table and edgy jokes on the internet but black racism is much more widespread and pernicious. What do we do about that?

Mac will not, or can not answer your question(s).

 

[martybegan]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

I only call evil evil. They are just the latest incantation of the myriad of neo-Marxist agitation groups that all have their current origin in the old WTO protest groups from the 90's, the "new new left" as it were.

And like most of these groups, their name is just a way of getting into a wedge issue. They take a concept of "black lives matter" and use the name Black Lives Matter as both a screen and a fight back point.

The same way anti-fa uses the anti-fascist name to use tactics Ernst Roehm would have been proud of.

 

[Norman]

NFL is now playing the "black national anthem".

Yes, it is one nation, it's not like a group isn't playing its own nation's national anthem...

And Trump is supposedly sowing division, damn these guys.

 

[Godboy]

Who cares if BLM’s founder espouses Marxism? Like any political ideology it has its good and bad points. In a world defined by an increasing wealth gap, a government (regardless of party) Increasingly defined by, paid by, and controlled by Oligarchs, and the steady erosion of worker’s rights, there is something to be said for Marxism.

No, Marxism has always been bad. We have all the historical evidence to prove that.

 

[Shelzin]

Who cares if BLM’s founder espouses Marxism? Like any political ideology it has its good and bad points. In a world defined by an increasing wealth gap, a government (regardless of party) Increasingly defined by, paid by, and controlled by Oligarchs, and the steady erosion of worker’s rights, there is something to be said for Marxism.

No... there is not. The cure cannot be worse than the problem. That makes no sense. I agree there is a gap problem... But that is certainly not how you fix it.

 

[Theowl32]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

Go blow it out of your ass.

 

[Coyote]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

 

[Norman]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Marxists have always been evil... always.