For argument's sake, let's say BLM is EVIL.

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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
 

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Commie Traitors.
They hide behind blacks, but the whole thing was organized, put into place, and just waiting on the inevitable catalyst.
It's an all-out attack on Western Civilization.
If I'm wrong, wtf are they doing rioting in all the other Western nations at the same exact time about something American police do?
Ask yourself why there's organized riots nationwide and in a bunch of other Western nations over something involving American police.
American police are different from town to town and neighborhood to neighborhood, even.
This isn't about police, it's about setting loose the classicly conditioned "New Red Guard" brainwashed useful idiots to war on Western Civilation.
 
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A zillion threads and many of them by Mac1958 I might add.

BLM is a violent organization that uses intimidation to foster the idea that any response by a white person to black criminality is "racist. They use the race card as a weapon and a means of control. The situation here is getting to be much like it is in Britain where they are quite willing to have Muslims rape thousands and thousands of their children just to avoid being called racist.

The real question should not be to ask how anybody could all this group evil but how anybody wouldn't.
 
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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
We first have to teach Blacks how to not resist an arrest and just obey the cops.
 

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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Particularly from the right......do tell
 

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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
We first have to teach Blacks how to not resist an arrest and just obey the cops.
Remember their place?

I hear you. It's always the fault of the black guy.
 

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As some are fond of noting, there are a large number of unarmed white folks killed by the police as well.

They are too militarized.

Their budgets are excessive, and everyone pays for them, despite them only protecting the property of about the wealthiest 10%

They break into homes unnanounced-shoot people in their beds, then charge the survivors with resisting arrest.

They shoot motorists who are licenced concealed carry holders, excercising their second amendment rights

They brutilized members of the press throughout the protests, in spite of the fact that they SWORE AN OATH to uphold a Constitution that expressly forbids any such thing.

The corruption is too deeply ingrained. It is time to start over from scratch. Policing must be done completely differently, And police unions and departments as we know them need to cease to exist.
 

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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
We first have to teach Blacks how to not resist an arrest and just obey the cops.
Remember their place?

I hear you. It's always the fault of the black guy.
Whenever you see a report on a Floyd type person, they've ALWAYS resisted. ALWAYS. And things turned badly for them. Well, DUH!
I've always obeyed the cops and they've never shot me. Fact.
 

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This isn't going well!

:laugh:
Perhaps you should just go back to being the old smart Mac instead of this new woke Mac. The old Mac said this

If black lives matter to the Left, why aren't they screaming about the dozens of murders blacks every fucking month in major cities? Why aren't they screaming about black children having to grow up without a father? Why aren't they screaming for moms to be given vouchers to send their kids out of the hood for a good education?

Black lives matter to these people only when they can be leveraged for political gain, period."
 

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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
Yeah! Who cares if BLM are admitted Marxists and anti-American, aren't all democrats today?
 
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This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?
right So? white racism exists. I knew that.
Black violence, sad prevalence of alcoholism and drug
use also exists. High school drop out also exists.
Juvenile diabetes also exists as does Multiple Sclerosis. African americans have a far lower incidence of Multiple Sclerosis than white americans
with family background in north europe------DA VIKINGS GOT IT BAD. Lets pretend that it is the
result of BLACK SUPREMACISM...... which also
exists. It is my experience that blue eyed people are more likely to be color blind than are brown eyed people-------but I never sought a citation.

mankind got problems
 
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This isn't going well!

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Perhaps you should just go back to being the old smart Mac instead of this new woke Mac. The old Mac said this

If black lives matter to the Left, why aren't they screaming about the dozens of murders blacks every fucking month in major cities? Why aren't they screaming about black children having to grow up without a father? Why aren't they screaming for moms to be given vouchers to send their kids out of the hood for a good education?

Black lives matter to these people only when they can be leveraged for political gain, period."
We've already been through this. I provided quotes of me saying something similar a few days ago. A left winger was disagreeing with me.

You're trying too hard. Calm down.

You guys only see the stuff I say that freaks you out. Not everyone is a binary winger. True story.
 

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Remember their place?

I hear you. It's always the fault of the black guy.

The place of any citizen is to cooperate with police. That you think blacks should be an exception to this because of the color of their skin is the real problem. With so many people like you setting the bar so low that color of skin not only excuses criminality but excuses resisting arrest for such criminality, is it any wonder why so many blacks resist arrest? They know that they have YOUR support and the support of countless millions who have been conditioned like you have been conditioned so why cooperate?
 
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The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.
"brown people" is not a race, political entity, or ethnic entity. In fact, the term itself is new to american english------it is very BRITISH. British is a mindset.
since 1968?
 

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Why is it not possible to talk about Mac's race question without making references to a death cult?
 

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