For argument's sake, let's say BLM is EVIL.

[Mac1958]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

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Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to "win". The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

 

[Coyote]

Some ignoramuses really need a history lesson.

Don‘t be afraid to admit it...you slept through history class didn’t you?

The facts are the facts, Coyote. Your picture of America being built by mostly black people is complete horseshit. The black people were almost irrelevant - I congratulate the ones who did build something - but let that not detract from the overall point.

As America becomes more and more multi-racial it will become more and more like Brazil. But let immigration never be questioned - democrats need votes so it is fine to destroy the country. Now it appears that was the plan all along.

That doesn't say anything beyond base demographics looking only at 1910 and on. It doesn't show the labor distribution, the wealth distribution, nor does it show the effect of slavery on the southern economic rise.

And note: I did not say America was build mostly by blacks, I have been saying we ALL built America - including those immigrants and races you despise. So suck it up.

 

[Norman]

Some ignoramuses really need a history lesson.

Don‘t be afraid to admit it...you slept through history class didn’t you?

The facts are the facts, Coyote. Your picture of America being built by mostly black people is complete horseshit. The black people were almost irrelevant - I congratulate the ones who did build something - but let that not detract from the overall point.

As America becomes more and more multi-racial it will become more and more like Brazil. But let immigration never be questioned - democrats need votes so it is fine to destroy the country. Now it appears that was the plan all along.

That doesn't say anything beyond base demographics looking only at 1910 and on. It doesn't show the labor distribution, the wealth distribution, nor does it show the effect of slavery on the southern economic rise.

And note: I did not say America was build mostly by blacks, I have been saying we ALL built America - including those immigrants and races you despise. So suck it up.

Are you pretending to be retarded, or are you actually this retarded?

Did Japanese build Japan, or was it the whites?

You emote and lie, that's all you do.

 

[Coyote]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

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Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

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Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

 

[Norman]

I have a feeling that there is going to be revelation which circles certain folks in the discussion have spent their time in soon.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

Y'know, I really become more concerned about three or four years ago. In my profession, I have to get into money and taxes with people, and that often swerves into politics. And -- this is just anecdotal -- but I swear, people are just more and more likely to lose their shit and launch off into some seemingly pre-rehearsed diatribe. And REALLY ANGRY at the "other side".

Then, of course, we see this shit permeating everyday society, from sports to restaurants.

And then people come here and let it all out.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

A zillion threads and many of them by Mac1958 I might add.

BLM is a violent organization that uses intimidation to foster the idea that any response by a white person to black criminality is "racist. They use the race card as a weapon and a means of control. The situation here is getting to be much like it is in Britain where they are quite willing to have Muslims rape thousands and thousands of their children just to avoid being called racist.

The real question should not be to ask how anybody could all this group evil but how anybody wouldn't.

The point about Islam, racism and the UK is particularly insightful.
Considering the BLM people, and their ignorant sycophants, are paving the way for Marxism, and billionaires and corporations are proving the old saying about capitalists selling the rope used to hang them so true,
it's impossible not to see the BLM movement as evil, at least for sure among the leadership who know
full well what's going on.

White racism is a tangential but distinctly different issue and mixing the two is pointless.

We have codified for decades now in our laws anti racist laws and taught it in our schools until every child
in America is horrified by the thought of racism....unless the racists prove to be blacks themselves.
Then the critical race "scholars" (ideologues) and black studies sophists have propagated the notion that only whites can be racists and a racially neutral nation (as per the ideals of MLK) is a racist nation.

We have much straightening out to do just to get back to the concept of a racially neutral nation.

 

[Norman]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

But don't worry... Mac is content... everything is going absolutely fine... preparing for worst would be paranoid...

It's ludicrous that on a year with the death virus and burning of the cities - he is still acting like a bonobo. Oh well, some people never learn, they are harvested when the time comes.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

But don't worry... Mac is content... everything is going absolutely fine... preparing for worst would be paranoid...

It's ludicrous that on a year with the death virus and burning of the cities - he is still acting like a bonobo. Oh well, some people never learn, they are harvested when the time comes.

OH FUCK

I'M GONNA BE HARVESTED

 

[Norman]

A zillion threads and many of them by Mac1958 I might add.

BLM is a violent organization that uses intimidation to foster the idea that any response by a white person to black criminality is "racist. They use the race card as a weapon and a means of control. The situation here is getting to be much like it is in Britain where they are quite willing to have Muslims rape thousands and thousands of their children just to avoid being called racist.

The real question should not be to ask how anybody could all this group evil but how anybody wouldn't.

The point about Islam, racism and the UK is particularly insightful.
Considering the BLM people, and their ignorant sycophants, are paving the way for Marxism, and billionaires and corporations are proving the old saying about capitalists selling the rope used to hang them so true,
it's impossible not to see the BLM movement as evil, at least for sure among the leadership who know
full well what's going on.

White racism is a tangential but distinctly different issue and mixing the two is pointless.

We have codified for decades now in our laws anti racist laws and taught it in our schools until every child
in America is horrified by the thought of racism....unless the racists prove to be blacks themselves.

We have much straightening out to do just to get back to the concept of a racially neutral nation.

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

But don't worry... Mac is content... everything is going absolutely fine... preparing for worst would be paranoid...

It's ludicrous that on a year with the death virus and burning of the cities - he is still acting like a bonobo. Oh well, some people never learn, they are harvested when the time comes.

OH FUCK

I'M GONNA BE HARVESTED

Add the people who you were supposed to defend to that.

It's going to be a big harvest. Big Macs and small macs... all harvested.

 

[Theowl32]

The left use race as a political weapon and use the black American 80% democrat auto vote as pawns. That is all they are to them and they use their grievances as a way to create fundraising rivers of money and NOTHING IS EVER DONE and that is ALL INTENTIONAL.

Go ahead and explain why nothing ever improves in these democrat run shitholes like Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia etc. Republicans have not been within 50 miles of any of those cities for over 50 years and yet the Republicans (the free market not republicrats) get ALL OF THE BLAME.

You have to stand in awe at the power of propaganda and the power of group think.

Patronizing racists like their emperor of identity politics are nothing but pathetic white liberal hypocritical losers. That is all.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The GOP has run against brown people, or the Other - in one form or another - in every election since 1968. This one is no different.

With lowest unemployment in history, Opportunity Zones and First Step Act, President Trump has done more for American blacks than Born in Kenya Barack ever did

Trump kept employment gains on the same trend line Obama had them, until Trump confronted the first real problem not of his own making. You're bragging about numbers that no longer exist. "Lowest unemployment" is a fading memory.

The delusional buffoon - who lied to you that he had inherited a disaster - has delivered a disaster. Take a look for yourself. Don't rely on Trump's word for anything. At all.

Thank Obama for funding the Wuhan Flu

Also note how the American Taliban is cheering the unemployment

Ain't nobody cheering unemployment. Up to a minute ago, you were pretending it was at an all-time low. Get your story straight.

It was an all-time low, just before Xi and his US surrogates in the American Taliban unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu. We know you're tap dancing at the UE numbers. Bad for America = Good for American Taliban

Yes, "was", past tense. Bragging about what doesn't exist anymore isn't a strength.

Trump was cruising to a 57 State Sweep until Xi and his US Sleeper cell, the democrat Party unleashed the Obama funded Wuhan Flu

Your theory needs more batshit.

Hey, I'm told now that BLM is worse than the Nazis.

How exactly is a person supposed to communicate with delirium and paranoia like that?

I truly do not understand it. It is crazy demonizing, almost frantic in it’s attempt to create an enemy.

Have you noticed an increase in accusations of commie in the rightwing ambient?

I have. We've moved from socialist to commie, just to ramp up the hyperbole.

Then, of course, BLM is worse than the Nazis.

My favorite, though, is that the Democrats are worse than the Khmer Rouge. You have to admit, that took some out of the box thinking!

They know what's coming, and they're losing their shit.

In all seriousness, the tone public discourse has changed. I was reading through an old CDZ thread, for a different reason, but found it fascinating and this post in it stuck in my mind. And I think it explains the demonizing we are seeing from all sides now. Everyone likes to refer to Alinksky's Rulebook, but Gingrich's memo is also very much a playbook for political discourse today. We are no longer "honorable opponents"...we are "evil".

CDZ - Our Society's Incivility is Due to Our Internet Anonymity

Our civility has been in decline for a long time, before there was an 'internet'; rude behavior is endemic on airlines, freeways, between children and parents, and both ways on the latter, not just kids, and it's long past the time when we should be banning a majority of parents from childrens'...

www.usmessageboard.com

Language: A Key Mechanism of Control


Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo

Gingrich's memo, combined with the rise of right-wing outrage radio, taught that political opponents aren't fellow Americans with whom we may disagree. Rather, they are the enemy, bad people, sick, pathetic, treasonous traitors who aren't entitled to civility.

Yeah. It could be the tail wagging the dog, where a small number of people (like him) manipulate others to do the damage.

To me, it's this notion that we're in a "war" -- something you can hear pretty regularly on talk radio, for example. And you sure as hell see it here. Being in a "war" gives the combatants an excuse to lie, cheat, do whatever it takes to win. The ends justify the means.

Well, once that's the case, any communication, cooperation and collaboration go right out the window. I wonder if it's because these people simply lack those basic adult skills.

Well put...over the years I've noticed a distinct change in tone here and out in the social media infested political world. The ability to respect opposing opinions while still disagreeing is gone and replaced by a scorched earth policy of rhetorical obliteration.

But don't worry... Mac is content... everything is going absolutely fine... preparing for worst would be paranoid...

It's ludicrous that on a year with the death virus and burning of the cities - he is still acting like a bonobo. Oh well, some people never learn, they are harvested when the time comes.

OH FUCK

I'M GONNA BE HARVESTED

Can I get your liver?

I tend to drink a bit too much from time to time.

 

[Coyote]

Are you pretending to be retarded, or are you actually this retarded?

Did Japanese build Japan, or was it the whites?

You emote and lie, that's all you do.

That statement is so full of ignorance, I don't know where to begin...so I'll start here. Japan is NOT repeat NOT an immigrant nation. You understand that right? So, you realize that comparing it to the US, of which the "white" population itself is IMMIGRANT - is just dumb.

Let's look at important developmental milestones in the US - simplistically.

The economy of the South. The Deep South was inhospitable to immigrants of European heritage. It was disease ridden - yellow fever, malaria, etc. and life spans were short. African slaves were often more resistant to those diseases (and expendable). It was the wide scale use of slavery that allowed the South to develop, and become an agricultural powerhouse for such labor intensive products as cotton.

The Economics of the Civil War

eh.net

A major finding of the research into the economic dynamics of the slave system was to demonstrate that the rise in the value of slaves was not based upon unfounded speculation. Slave labor was the foundation of a prosperous economic system in the South. To illustrate just how important slaves were to that prosperity, Gerald Gunderson (1974) estimated what fraction of the income of a white person living in the South of 1860 was derived from the earnings of slaves. Table 1 presents Gunderson’s estimates. In the seven states where most of the cotton was grown, almost one-half the population were slaves, and they accounted for 31 percent of white people’s income; for all 11 Confederate States, slaves represented 38 percent of the population and contributed 23 percent of whites’ income.​

Who built the South? Wasn't just whites...it was African Americans providing generations of unpaid labor for white landowners who built THEIR wealth upon the labor of a group of Americans who could not amass any wealth from their own labor. And, it didn't stop there - the post civil war promises - 40 acres and a mule were soon broken (while concurrently white homesteaders encouraged to settle the west were promised and given acreage by the government), and Jim Crowe laws and White Race Riots (bet you never learned about those did you?) decimated what black owned business's and homes, destroying what wealth free blacks were able to amass.

Hey...maybe can you begin to understand the anger behind BLM? The history behind the enduring wealth gap? How the claims of racial riots being just blacks are somewhat cockeyed because they ignore the history of the white racial riots that preceded them?

Example 2 of who built America. The Railroads played a SIGNIFICANT role in uniting the two coasts and the middle, and building an economy, as well as the settlement of huge swathes of America. This is, of course, the narrative that comes from the majority white America. The narrative of our indigenous people would look somewhat different.

Perhaps the greatest physical feat of 19th century America was the creation of the transcontinental railroad. Two railroads, the Central Pacific starting in San Francisco and a new railroad, the Union Pacific, starting in Omaha, Nebraska, would build the rail-line.​

Who built the railroads? They toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history.

Who built America? We all did. Even though many are largely ignored.

 

[Norman]

Are you pretending to be retarded, or are you actually this retarded?

Did Japanese build Japan, or was it the whites?

You emote and lie, that's all you do.

That statement is so full of ignorance, I don't know where to begin...so I'll start here. Japan is NOT repeat NOT an immigrant nation. You understand that right? So, you realize that comparing it to the US, of which the "white" population itself is IMMIGRANT - is just dumb.

Let's look at important developmental milestones in the US - simplistically.

The economy of the South. The Deep South was inhospitable to immigrants of European heritage. It was disease ridden - yellow fever, malaria, etc. and life spans were short. African slaves were often more resistant to those diseases (and expendable). It was the wide scale use of slavery that allowed the South to develop, and become an agricultural powerhouse for such labor intensive products as cotton.

The Economics of the Civil War

eh.net

A major finding of the research into the economic dynamics of the slave system was to demonstrate that the rise in the value of slaves was not based upon unfounded speculation. Slave labor was the foundation of a prosperous economic system in the South. To illustrate just how important slaves were to that prosperity, Gerald Gunderson (1974) estimated what fraction of the income of a white person living in the South of 1860 was derived from the earnings of slaves. Table 1 presents Gunderson’s estimates. In the seven states where most of the cotton was grown, almost one-half the population were slaves, and they accounted for 31 percent of white people’s income; for all 11 Confederate States, slaves represented 38 percent of the population and contributed 23 percent of whites’ income.​

Who built the South? Wasn't just whites...it was African Americans providing generations of unpaid labor for white landowners who built THEIR wealth upon the labor of a group of Americans who could not amass any wealth from their own labor. And, it didn't stop there - the post civil war promises - 40 acres and a mule were soon broken (while concurrently white homesteaders encouraged to settle the west were promised and given acreage by the government), and Jim Crowe laws and White Race Riots (bet you never learned about those did you?) decimated what black owned business's and homes, destroying what wealth free blacks were able to amass.

Hey...maybe can you begin to understand the anger behind BLM? The history behind the enduring wealth gap? How the claims of racial riots being just blacks are somewhat cockeyed because they ignore the history of the white racial riots that preceded them?

Example 2 of who built America. The Railroads played a SIGNIFICANT role in uniting the two coasts and the middle, and building an economy, as well as the settlement of huge swathes of America. This is, of course, the narrative that comes from the majority white America. The narrative of our indigenous people would look somewhat different.

Perhaps the greatest physical feat of 19th century America was the creation of the transcontinental railroad. Two railroads, the Central Pacific starting in San Francisco and a new railroad, the Union Pacific, starting in Omaha, Nebraska, would build the rail-line.​

Who built the railroads? They toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history.

Who built America? We all did. Even though many are largely ignored.

America is not a nation of immigrants either, and there are whites in Japan.

It seems though that my overall point goes right over your head. There is no and never will be "black America", nor will there be "minority white" America. Those other people simply do not hold the American values measured by any metric - the values that built the country no matter who did the work.

 

[John T. Ford]

This organization has been the topic of about a zillion threads over the last few days, and this massive deflection from our race issues isn't going to solve a thing. Nor will the efforts of Trumpsters to play the same game the hardcore Left has done for so long, calling everything the other tribe does "racist". You ends of the spectrum sure like to behave like each other.

So, just for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the BLM is organization is a net negative. Please attach whatever hyperbolic noun or status or adjective to them that you would like.

Great! So... NOW what? How do we go forward with the overall race issue in this country? We have accusations of police brutality and accusations of blatant white racism. How do we move forward? There are many millions of Americans who have or want nothing to do with BLM the organization, but agree with the basic premise that white racism still exists, particularly from the Right.

So?

All Marxist are EVIL ....

Not just Black LIES Matter.

 

[Coyote]

Are you pretending to be retarded, or are you actually this retarded?

Did Japanese build Japan, or was it the whites?

You emote and lie, that's all you do.

That statement is so full of ignorance, I don't know where to begin...so I'll start here. Japan is NOT repeat NOT an immigrant nation. You understand that right? So, you realize that comparing it to the US, of which the "white" population itself is IMMIGRANT - is just dumb.

Let's look at important developmental milestones in the US - simplistically.

The economy of the South. The Deep South was inhospitable to immigrants of European heritage. It was disease ridden - yellow fever, malaria, etc. and life spans were short. African slaves were often more resistant to those diseases (and expendable). It was the wide scale use of slavery that allowed the South to develop, and become an agricultural powerhouse for such labor intensive products as cotton.

The Economics of the Civil War

eh.net

A major finding of the research into the economic dynamics of the slave system was to demonstrate that the rise in the value of slaves was not based upon unfounded speculation. Slave labor was the foundation of a prosperous economic system in the South. To illustrate just how important slaves were to that prosperity, Gerald Gunderson (1974) estimated what fraction of the income of a white person living in the South of 1860 was derived from the earnings of slaves. Table 1 presents Gunderson’s estimates. In the seven states where most of the cotton was grown, almost one-half the population were slaves, and they accounted for 31 percent of white people’s income; for all 11 Confederate States, slaves represented 38 percent of the population and contributed 23 percent of whites’ income.​

Who built the South? Wasn't just whites...it was African Americans providing generations of unpaid labor for white landowners who built THEIR wealth upon the labor of a group of Americans who could not amass any wealth from their own labor. And, it didn't stop there - the post civil war promises - 40 acres and a mule were soon broken (while concurrently white homesteaders encouraged to settle the west were promised and given acreage by the government), and Jim Crowe laws and White Race Riots (bet you never learned about those did you?) decimated what black owned business's and homes, destroying what wealth free blacks were able to amass.

Hey...maybe can you begin to understand the anger behind BLM? The history behind the enduring wealth gap? How the claims of racial riots being just blacks are somewhat cockeyed because they ignore the history of the white racial riots that preceded them?

Example 2 of who built America. The Railroads played a SIGNIFICANT role in uniting the two coasts and the middle, and building an economy, as well as the settlement of huge swathes of America. This is, of course, the narrative that comes from the majority white America. The narrative of our indigenous people would look somewhat different.

Perhaps the greatest physical feat of 19th century America was the creation of the transcontinental railroad. Two railroads, the Central Pacific starting in San Francisco and a new railroad, the Union Pacific, starting in Omaha, Nebraska, would build the rail-line.​

Who built the railroads? They toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history.

Who built America? We all did. Even though many are largely ignored.

Fine whites built over 90% of it.

It seems though that my overall point goes right over your head. There is no and never will be "black America", nor will there be "minority white" America. Those other people simply do not hold the American values measured by any metric - the values that built the country no matter who did the work.

Your overall point is meaningless because racial/ethnic demographics alone do not tell the entire story of America.

But you do make an interesting point - Identity Politics are not the sole prevue of the Democrats anymore.

"Those other people"....that alone speaks volumes.

Values without labor did not build this country, and the labor that built it, is not untethered to those values.

 

[Mac1958]

All Marxist are EVIL ....
Not just Black LIES Matter.

I don't know why you guys have such trouble with this, but the plural of words that end in "...ist" is "...ists". Just FYI.

Anyway, I do realize that you guys see this as a war between Good and Evil. That really is a shame.

 

[Norman]

Are you pretending to be retarded, or are you actually this retarded?

Did Japanese build Japan, or was it the whites?

You emote and lie, that's all you do.

That statement is so full of ignorance, I don't know where to begin...so I'll start here. Japan is NOT repeat NOT an immigrant nation. You understand that right? So, you realize that comparing it to the US, of which the "white" population itself is IMMIGRANT - is just dumb.

Let's look at important developmental milestones in the US - simplistically.

The economy of the South. The Deep South was inhospitable to immigrants of European heritage. It was disease ridden - yellow fever, malaria, etc. and life spans were short. African slaves were often more resistant to those diseases (and expendable). It was the wide scale use of slavery that allowed the South to develop, and become an agricultural powerhouse for such labor intensive products as cotton.

The Economics of the Civil War

eh.net

A major finding of the research into the economic dynamics of the slave system was to demonstrate that the rise in the value of slaves was not based upon unfounded speculation. Slave labor was the foundation of a prosperous economic system in the South. To illustrate just how important slaves were to that prosperity, Gerald Gunderson (1974) estimated what fraction of the income of a white person living in the South of 1860 was derived from the earnings of slaves. Table 1 presents Gunderson’s estimates. In the seven states where most of the cotton was grown, almost one-half the population were slaves, and they accounted for 31 percent of white people’s income; for all 11 Confederate States, slaves represented 38 percent of the population and contributed 23 percent of whites’ income.​

Who built the South? Wasn't just whites...it was African Americans providing generations of unpaid labor for white landowners who built THEIR wealth upon the labor of a group of Americans who could not amass any wealth from their own labor. And, it didn't stop there - the post civil war promises - 40 acres and a mule were soon broken (while concurrently white homesteaders encouraged to settle the west were promised and given acreage by the government), and Jim Crowe laws and White Race Riots (bet you never learned about those did you?) decimated what black owned business's and homes, destroying what wealth free blacks were able to amass.

Hey...maybe can you begin to understand the anger behind BLM? The history behind the enduring wealth gap? How the claims of racial riots being just blacks are somewhat cockeyed because they ignore the history of the white racial riots that preceded them?

Example 2 of who built America. The Railroads played a SIGNIFICANT role in uniting the two coasts and the middle, and building an economy, as well as the settlement of huge swathes of America. This is, of course, the narrative that comes from the majority white America. The narrative of our indigenous people would look somewhat different.

Perhaps the greatest physical feat of 19th century America was the creation of the transcontinental railroad. Two railroads, the Central Pacific starting in San Francisco and a new railroad, the Union Pacific, starting in Omaha, Nebraska, would build the rail-line.​

Who built the railroads? They toiled through back-breaking labor during both frigid winters and blazing summers. Hundreds died from explosions, landslides, accidents and disease. And even though they made major contributions to the construction of the Transcontinental Railroad, these 15,000 to 20,000 Chinese immigrants have been largely ignored by history.

Who built America? We all did. Even though many are largely ignored.

Fine whites built over 90% of it.

It seems though that my overall point goes right over your head. There is no and never will be "black America", nor will there be "minority white" America. Those other people simply do not hold the American values measured by any metric - the values that built the country no matter who did the work.

Your overall point is meaningless because racial/ethnic demographics alone do not tell the entire story of America.

But you do make an interesting point - Identity Politics are not the sole prevue of the Democrats anymore.

"Those other people"....that alone speaks volumes.

Values without labor did not build this country, and the labor that built it, is not untethered to those values.

I find it funny how leftists drift between the values and people that built the country. So was it about the values or the people?

I say it was both, the value of freedom over egalitarian bullshit, and the Western European people.

If you look at that chart identity politics started when America was sufficiently invaded. Of course identity politics will not be restricted to one party. Republicans will become the white party and democrats the minority party - to the degree this has not already happened. Right now some retarded republicans still pretend identity politics is not here - but it is - because different non-American identities are here.

It will only get worse from here - these people have no fucking clue what they are doing, or what they did - other than to make themselves a quick buck. The neo-liberals could not possibly run a lemonade stand.

 

[Norman]

All Marxist are EVIL ....
Not just Black LIES Matter.

I don't know why you guys have such trouble with this, but the plural of words that end in "...ist" is "...ists". Just FYI.

Anyway, I do realize that you guys see this as a war between Good and Evil. That really is a shame.

Do you believe Nazis are evil?

If so, how the hell could you NOT believe Marxists are evil?

 

[Mac1958]

All Marxist are EVIL ....
Not just Black LIES Matter.

I don't know why you guys have such trouble with this, but the plural of words that end in "...ist" is "...ists". Just FYI.

Anyway, I do realize that you guys see this as a war between Good and Evil. That really is a shame.

Do you believe Nazis are evil?

If so, how the hell could you NOT believe Marxists are evil?

You really have gone off the deep end.