Fooled Twice and More..

only in your head.

so please don't try to pretend you know how anyone other than the obama-deranged loons think.

and please let us know when you stop running wing nuts. because he was still better than anything the wing nuts offered.

thanks.

Wait so you are saying the "right wing nuts" ran McCain and Romney?

Well now I'm confused here because you people are always telling me that the Tea Party is the right wing nuts. Well I know that the Tea Party didnt runMcCain or Romney so how is that possible?

Or, more likely, you are talking out if your ass.
Isn't it amusing to hear them tell us to not presume to tell them how anyone thinks, and then proceed to tell us all what conservatives think?

I'm going to invent a new hat. I'll call it the "boggle" and you wear it when progressives talk....because it just boggles the head what they think.

:D
 
mccain would have won but for palin.

romney beame an anti-choice, romney-care disavowing 1%-er who chose the extremist paul ryan as his VP choice.

so, when "the base" demands that it's candidates take extreme positions to get through the primary, no... they can't swing back for normal people to vote for them.

Palin was the best part of the ticket. McCain showed us some things since he lost. I wouldn't vote for him today.

BTW, how's John Kerry doing? Al Gore?

Couple of real winners there, aye pumpkin?

Gore did win.

Gore didn't even win Tennessee...his home State and the people who know him best!
 
As long as Republicans keep running Democrats, they will lose..

The exception being Sarah Palin, she energized liberal Democrat uncontrollable hate and sparked hope with conservative American patriots..
 
mccain would have won but for palin.

romney beame an anti-choice, romney-care disavowing 1%-er who chose the extremist paul ryan as his VP choice.

so, when "the base" demands that it's candidates take extreme positions to get through the primary, no... they can't swing back for normal people to vote for them.
Palin energized the conservative base since McCain was hardly a conservative. No party wins without the base. The Palin bashing served mostly to pleasure the left. Liberals weren't going to vote for McCain over Obama and "moderates" weren't going cancel a vote for McCain due to his VP pick. Who factored in Biden as a decision making deal breaker on the left? Presidents aren't elected or not elected by VP picks.

Plus Bush was hammered daily for 8 years and the media helped destroy the economy like they do whenever a Republican is in office. I heard daily how it was the worse economy ever and Bush's numbers were much better than Obama's but we only hear how things are going to improve and are looking up.

Romney anti-choice? Sounds like abortion is your litmus test. But Romney said nothing about repealing Roe v Wade. He couldn't if he tried.

And no party wins without the moderate/centralist vote. It's a very fine line to walk.
If one looks at the public perception of the Tea Party, it's more negative than positive by quite a margin*. So going straight far right with a ticket complete with far right candidates isn't going to win any national elections.
Like it or not, the public is more comfortable with a more moderate GOP ala the "GOP Establishment"
*. Politics
Public Opinion Toward Tea Party Hits Low Point : It's All Politics : NPR
Tea Party Favorability Falls to Lowest Yet
That's a matter of opinion. Bush was able to attract conservative and Evangelical voters. He was not a pretend Republican, and voters knew this. A good portion of conservative and Evangelical voters stayed home on election night in 2012. These are the reasons why...

A lot of factors went wrong for Mr. Romney. And this is really key. Early on, there was much speculation about whether evangelicals would support Mr. Romney. Number one, Romney was a Mormon which is viewed as a cult within the Christian community. Second, Mr. Romney was the first governor to sign gay marriage into law. Third, Mr. Romney was avidly pro-abortion earlier in the decade and in the decade before that. His conversion didn’t come until he was in his 50’s and mounting a bid for the presidency. He remained pro-abortion in many circumstances. These amounted to huge problems for the Romney campaign which he never quite addressed.

What went wrong in 2012

I personally do not know of any conservative who will vote for a candidate who's pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage.
 
Well since I consider marriage, including those of straights, a private partnership agreement that the government has no business getting into and pulling the plug rules should be the same at both ends of life I guess i'm not a conservative.
 
Well since I consider marriage, including those of straights, a private partnership agreement that the government has no business getting into and pulling the plug rules should be the same at both ends of life I guess i'm not a conservative.

Yes you are. Conservatives are Founding Fathers Constitutionalists who want small government, whose main job is protecting the God given rights of the people.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
 
While I can agree with constitutionalists on most matters, I don't think that they target a sufficiently small government. Take the current Ukraine/Crimea crisis.

The cost of Russia's proposed Black Sea pipeline goes way down for both construction costs and transit fees with the addition with the addition of Crimean territorial waters.

If bitch slapping Russia for its Crimean coup is needed lending money to East Africa to finance pipelines to get their oil and gas to market with the USN making sure we get paid back is way cheaper than sanctions or saber-rattling as a way of doing so. I don't hear of the house proposing such a remedy as a counter to the dysfunctional Obama response.

So, either the GOP is not conservative or I'm not.
 
So, either the GOP is not conservative or I'm not.
You may be fiscally conservative. Many GOP'ers (especially politicians) are social conservatives. Then there is someone like Paul Ryan who's both fiscally and socially conservative.
 
Common symptom of major denial...

How's that recovery working for you?

Hard to admit they just voted for him because he is black (in appearance) and sucks as the leader of the free world...
 
only in your head.

so please don't try to pretend you know how anyone other than the obama-deranged loons think.

and please let us know when you stop running wing nuts. because he was still better than anything the wing nuts offered.

thanks.

I know that people like you pretending you aren't RACIST voted for Obama out of total ignorance as to his inexperience in EXECUTIVE decision making ONLY because YOU had NO other reason to vote for him other then if you didn't vote for him you would have concluded YOU are racist as he is half black!
YOU and millions of other totally uninformed people who NEVER knew that Obama preferred seeing $100 billion a year in tax revenue from 1,300 companies along with the 400,000 employees be destroyed.
You and other ignoramuses never knew that wanted he said.."I'd like higher gas prices, just not so quickly HIGHER GAS Prices??
What kind of dummy wants higher gas prices?

What kind of dummy obviously like you wanted a president then to hire people like Energy secretary Chu, who said in 2008
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe."

I mean it is pretty obvious YOU are totally uninformed as to the actual words spoken by Obama .. NOT out of context.. that have never been uttered
by any other President much less American citizens! I mean how stupid..."prefer higher gas prices"????
 
mccain would have won but for palin.

romney beame an anti-choice, romney-care disavowing 1%-er who chose the extremist paul ryan as his VP choice.

so, when "the base" demands that it's candidates take extreme positions to get through the primary, no... they can't swing back for normal people to vote for them.

Palin was the best part of the ticket. McCain showed us some things since he lost. I wouldn't vote for him today.

BTW, how's John Kerry doing? Al Gore?

Couple of real winners there, aye pumpkin?

Gore did win.

No, he cheated. He lost. Bush won. Deal with it.
 

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