First SNAP Ban on Candy and Soda Set To Become Law

[toobfreak]

Before the government started taking more than half of the money we earned, private charities did a fine job of taking care of such people in the rare case in which they had no families to take care of them.

Thanks for making my point. The problem is not sick people or even a can of pop. The real problem is government. They just do this stuff with cola and snacks hoping that it will fool people into thinking they are running a tight ship.

You need to read more.

No thanks, I read plenty. I have my own library of books.

 

[Lesh]

Technically we can improve the quality though.

Of hot dogs?

Good luck

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thanks for making my point. The problem is not sick people or even a can of pop. The real problem is government. They just do this stuff with cola and snacks hoping that it will fool people into thinking they are running a tight ship.

Well, yes. Things like forbiding welfare queens from buying their broods candy and sody-pop with food stamps only somewhat mitigates the damage that government does to these people's lives.

I look forward to that great day when they are forced to get off their large asses and get jobs in order to avoid starvation, and having those kids put up for adoption if they do not.

Until then, I will not sacrifice the children for an ideal not likely to be realized in their lifetimes.

No thanks, I read plenty. I have my own library of books.

I have many. They are called public libraries. One of the few things government used to do well. In my area, they are still pretty good.

Harris County, if you're curious.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Of hot dogs?

Good luck

You make a good point, which is as rare as a welfare dolee at a job fair.

We need to wean the poor off of government-paid junk foods of all types.

It will take time, but we need to get to a place in which food stamps are only allowed to be used for dried rice, dried beans, two to three servings of lean meat perweek, flour and supplies for making bread, green vegetables, and clean water for cooking.

Junk food junkies will self-unenroll for these programs and go out and work to earn their snacks. At that point, t'aint none of my beezwax what kind of food they eat.

 

[toobfreak]

Well, yes. Things like forbiding welfare queens from buying their broods candy and sody-pop with food stamps only somewhat mitigates the damage that government does to these people's lives.

I don't see how it mitigates anything at all. If people can't buy candy, that will only be more SNAP money left to spend on others things.

I look forward to that great day when they are forced to get off their large asses and get jobs in order to avoid starvation, and having those kids put up for adoption if they do not.

Anyone capable of going out and getting a job has no business being on welfare. And to be honest, I also don't think anyone who cannot support themselves has any business having a family neither. Now THAT is REALLY unfair to the taxpayer! You are no longer helping the unfortunate live but actually helping them have a family and multiply!

 

[Tyrion234]

If you are on Welfare, you have no money of your own.


So basically, you are endorsing a fascist state. Illegal aliens now have more rights than an American just because he got sick or disabled. But since all of us use taxpayer money one way or other, directly or indirectly, you just endorsed the state banning YOU from all unhealthy habits you might need, want or enjoy. Got it.

Just don't bitch then when your own policies catch up to bite you in the ass. It is easy to rationalize when it is someone else, huh? You use taxpayer money--- are you ready to give up pizza, hotdogs, hamburgers, potato chips and beer?

To you’re literally saying those worthy of snap benefits due to disabilities are going to suffer from not buying skittles and Pepsi with their EARNED food stamps? No man, they aren’t the problem with snap, the problem is the fucking professional grifters capable of working that see how much easier it is to not work and be provided for and send their unattended to children to the bodegas for whatever they want to get them out of their hair instead of fucking being an adult and grocery shopping and preparing food for their children

 

[Lesh]

You make a good point, which is as rare as a welfare dolee at a job fair.

We need to wean the poor off of government-paid junk foods of all types.

It will take time, but we need to get to a place in which food stamps are only allowed to be used for dried rice, dried beans, two to three servings of lean meat perweek, flour and supplies for making bread, green vegetables, and clean water for cooking.

Junk food junkies will self-unenroll for these programs and go out and work to earn their snacks. At that point, t'aint none of my beezwax what kind of food they eat.

So we’re going to mandate what the poor should eat

And who is going to mandate what YOU eat you fat pig ?

 

[Tyrion234]

Irrelevant. And I might point out that welfare people have 100 ways of still getting booze and getting around the law. But every bad law starts with good intentions, and yes, there are some people who would spend every last dime they have on liqueur and drink themselves silly. So IMO, there should simply be a LIMIT on how much alcohol a person buys. But more to the point, as little money welfare people get, I don't see how they can afford to buy much liqueur anyway.


So if that is all the money they have, they are prohibiting sick, poor and disabled people from buying a Coke. Soon after, it will be all sweetened drinks.

Once done, it will be the next step to simply ban snacks, junk food, sweets and stuff from everyone. Big Brother is going to make you eat healthy or die.

They opened the Pandora's box and you walked right in thinking it would only apply to those "other" people!

You think Pepsi and coke are going to cease to exist because big brother says we can’t buy them anymore? You’re a fear mongering moron. The government still allows us to smoke ourselves into lung cancer and heart decease. They still allow us to drink ourselves into worthlessness, why the fuck would they care about sugar and u healthy foods and beverages that pay them plenty in taxes? Think a little bit the government is saying sodas, energy drinks, Ho Hos, potato chips aren’t what the fucking program was started to provide for the less fortunate

 

[tahuyaman]

Why? Why stop there? We all use services paid for by taxpayers. So why let ANYONE purchase anything which is in any way unhealthy?

Also, tell me how you measure the unhealthiness of a few candy bars, snacks, or cans of pop a week? When do they become unhealthy? How? And if they are so bad, why were they ever allowed on the market in the first place for anyone?

Do please let us know when you switch to eating nothing but berries and green leafy vegetable for every meal three times a day and drinking nothing but spring water. I mean, not only is that healthy, but it is all you really need to stay alive.

I just love how people here are so anxious to take away self-determination from people for no good reason and place it in the hands of bureaucrats who don't know the first thing about what you want, need or like nor how you even use them.

This tells me that sooner or later, this country will fall to total statism.

Who gets to decide what is a "non-staple" to another person? Do you actually think the government bothers to look at or consider all the different situations and reasons why a person might need assistance in the first place?

Remember who is running these programs.

Would you like for me to decide what is a non-staple for you?

Energy drinks, cigarettes and sugary snacks are not staples

 

[toobfreak]

We need to wean the poor off of government-paid junk foods of all types.

Why?

It will take time, but we need to get to a place in which food stamps are only allowed to be used for dried rice, dried beans, two to three servings of lean meat perweek, flour and supplies for making bread, green vegetables, and clean water for cooking.

That is an unworkable, unrealistic, insane idea.

Junk food junkies will self-unenroll for these programs and go out and work to earn their snacks.

And those that can't will be left to twist in the wind through no fault of their own. Why do you think welfare people must either eat stringent, pristine vegan diets or stuff their faces with nothing but candy 24/7?

At that point, t'aint none of my beezwax what kind of food they eat.

It ain't none of your "beezwax" what kind of food anyone eats in a free, self-deterministic society.

But thanks for your vote for fascist totalitarianism.

 

[tahuyaman]

Of course.

But the admiral and I were having a disagreement as to what society TRADITIONALLY considered. . . "welfare."

. . . the classic term which the administration of FDR started, was AFDC.

TANF was not even started till 1997.

You telling me no one in this nation used the term, "welfare," to describe goberment payments till '97?

Aid to Families with Dependent Children - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Temporary Assistance for Needy Families - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ok this particular welfare program wasn’t started until 1997. What’s your point??

 

[Seymour Flops]

So we’re going to mandate what the poor should eat

Oh, not at all.

They can eat whatever they are willing to work to pay for. Or whatever others who work are willing to work to provide for them.

Can you imagine the reaction if a Xtian or conservative-run charity was giving poor kids candy and soda-water instead of healthy food?

You - you Lesh - would be hollering "GENOCIDE!"

And who is going to mandate what YOU eat you fat pig ?

Mrs. Flops. Duh!

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why?


That is an unworkable, unrealistic, insane idea.

When the po gets hungy 'nuff, they will make it work.

That's how the masters fed the slaves, they gave them a basic ration of beans, flour, etc. for the season and they had to make it work.

Slaves were beaten, raped, worked in harsh and dangerous conditions, exclusively by Democrats, as we read in history books. But I never read one time that slaves starved because the masters did not give them candy.

And those that can't will be left to twist in the wind through no fault of their own. Why do you think welfare people must either eat stringent, pristine vegan diets or stuff their faces with nothing but candy 24/7?

I never offered that binary choice.

It ain't none of your "beezwax" what kind of food anyone eats in a free, self-deterministic society.

People on welfare aren't free, nor self-deterministic.

But thanks for your vote for fascist totalitarianism.

Nope.

Just a benevolant dictatorship for the unwilling to work.

 

[toobfreak]

To you’re literally saying those worthy of snap benefits due to disabilities are going to suffer from not buying skittles and Pepsi with their EARNED food stamps?

All I'm saying is that they have as much right to buy a little candy, cola or anything else within their budget as you, me or anyone else. I prefer living in a free country, not a police state.

Let me come to your house and start telling you what you can eat, what you can watch on TV and how you should live then tell me you like it.

 

[toobfreak]

When the po gets hungy 'nuff, they will make it work.
That's how the masters fed the slaves, they gave them a basic ration of beans, flour, etc. for the season and they had to make it work.

At least you admit you are for a form of slavery and oppression.


All you need to find is the right excuse.

 

[Seymour Flops]

At least you admit you are for a form of slavery and oppression.


All you need to find is the right excuse.

No, that is the Democrats who want the poor to live in the slavery of social welfare.

I'm sure Democrat Thomas Jefferson gave his slave candy after raping her also.

 

[toobfreak]

Energy drinks and sugary snacks are not staples

They are food. Food is a staple. I never liked energy drinks but it is nice to have something sweet once in a while, probably why most things are sweetened.

You DO know you can buy cola without sugar, right? And there is a big difference between pigging out on candy bars and having a treat after dinner.

 

[toobfreak]

No, that is the Democrats who want the poor to live in the slavery of social welfare.
I'm sure Democrat Thomas Jefferson gave his slave candy after raping her also.

Thanks for admitting that given the excuse, you would gladly revert to slavery and oppression.

I would howl if next month, the government bans 100% something you love and need.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thanks for admitting that given the excuse, you would gladly revert to slavery and oppression.

I would howl if next month, the government bans 100% something you love and need.

What sense would that make, when I'm not advocating the government ban anything?

Are you alrigth? You are making less and less sense. The first of the month just passed: you shouldn't have run out of Gatorade and Snickers bars yet.

 

[Muhammed]

I see this as very good thing.

The grocery lobby sure won't be pleased.

The government shouldn't decide what people eat. You'll be eating bugs within 20 years.