Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

[justoffal]

Your ignorance is deep and abiding.

He's merely recounting what has already happened.

Jo

 

[Unkotare]

He's merely recounting what has already happened.

Jo

Incorrectly.

 

[Siberian]

Taiwan would kick their ass

They have done nothing but prepare for a Chinese attack for 70 years. They have a modern air force, submarines, anti ship missiles, mines, SAMs.......all set to sink a Chinese invasion force

Chineze invasion force will be 1 mln fishing boats without clear national identity , guarded by Chinese navy from a big distance, which will just make sure the US is not going to interviene...

Taiwan is already lost by the US, Anericans just don't understand it yet.
As well as Ukraine..

 

[justoffal]

Incorrectly.

Not sure why you're saying that but I don't think I'm going to investigate it either.

Jo

 

[Unkotare]

Not sure why you're saying that but I don't think I'm going to investigate it either.

Jo

It does seem that you and a few others are quite fond of your ignorance.

 

[justoffal]

It does seem that you and a few others are quite fond of your ignorance.

Nah.... Just observing that you are completely immune to the facts... History is not negotiable it is exactly what it is. Trying to say that it didn't happen is absolutely nothing to do with an intellectual observation. But it is indicative of political illness. Should have started with that subject first because seeing your response to it would have saved me a great deal of wasted energy.

Jo

 

[Unkotare]

Nah.... Just observing that you are completely immune to the facts... History is not negotiable it is exactly what it is. ...

It's nice that you are so proud of your ignorance.

 

[Mac-7]

I predicted a massive shift in global influence if Trump lost in 2020. My thinking was that Europe and Asian nations will watch to see if America remains focused on expanding their influence and projecting capitalism, or, if it will become just another socialist nation looking to control their domestic citizens. One of many nations that is incapable of stopping China from doing as it pleases. While U.S corporations and their political pals pretend their greed didn't destroy the U.S

After Hong Kong was taken back so easily, while the Brits were so focused on Russia (and appeasement of them, though they'd never admit this when their intel thought sending missiles to Ukraine was a bad idea) and pushing this narrative in the U.S (much to the pleasure of China), the CCP were expanding and eying how to topple the U.S and Western democracy.

How lucky could they be to see the U.S embroiled in terror in the M.E, then Russia in Crimea, and then an aggressive global effort to usurp the most pro-American president in many peoples lifetime, all while China expanded and laughed?

If Taiwan falls to China, America will go from Super Power to Middle Power almost overnight. Just as Canada went from Middle Power to Little Power in a generation (again, thanks to appeasing of China). The world will be drastically tilted to China and Russia and the new global supremacy. Their influence and outreach will be without limits at that point.

Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

"This problem is much closer to us than most think," the new head of US Indo-Pacific Command said in March.

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Benjamin Brimelow
Mon., May 3, 2021, 8:54 a.m.·8 min read

A concrete bunker and anti-landing barricades on a beach facing the Chinese city of Xamen, on the Taiwanese island of Little Kinmen, April 20, 2018. Carl Court/Getty Images

• China has been expanding its influence and taking a more aggressive posture toward Taiwan.
• That has raised concerns that Beijing will attempt to retake the island by force.
• Whether the US and other countries would help, and what help they would offer, remains in doubt.
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Twenty-five years ago, two US Navy carrier strike groups were enough to deter possible Chinese military action against Taiwan after China launched missiles that landed a few dozen miles off its coast.
Now, after a massive modernization effort by China's military, known as the People's Liberation Army, or PLA, two carrier strike groups, and possibly US forces alone, may not be enough.
This is especially daunting for Taiwan, as it is unclear if it can get help from anyone else if, or when, the time comes.
In March, Adm. Philip Davidson, then head of US Indo-Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that China could invade Taiwan in the next six years.
A few days later, Adm. John Aquilino, Davidson's successor, declined to comment on that assessment but said that China views Taiwan "as their No. 1 priority" and that, in his opinion, "this problem is much closer to us than most think."

The survival of Taiwan depends entirely on joe biden, just as the survival of south korea depended on harry truman 70 years ago

at the very least japan and Australia are ready to fight china over taiwan

but not alone

if America does nothing so will they

so far biden has remained on the fence just as truman was indifferent to the future of South Korea before the communist invasion

but he surprised the world by sending the US military to defend Korea

Till he proves otherwise I believe old joe has the ability to do the right thing

they say history repeats itself

in this case we certainly hope so

 

[DudleySmith]

Your ignorance is deep and abiding.

Says a troll who thinks FDR was a communist agent n stuff, i.e. a blatant liar and deviant.

 

[DudleySmith]

Not sure why you're saying that but I don't think I'm going to investigate it either.

Jo

He's just a trolling moron, with an Asian fetish. He thinks 'the wrong side won' in WW II.

If you want to know, just ask'; I've posted on it before.

 

[Silver Cat]

“Taiwan separatists “?
?????

The USA don't recognize Republic of China (Taiwan), you know. Officially there is a People's Republic of China, only.

 

[Unkotare]

Says a troll who thinks FDR was a communist agent n stuff...

I never said that, but he was at the very least an apologist for a communist dictator, and a criminal scumbag who threw innocent Americans into concentration camps. Any other off-topic things you want to try and derail this thread with?

 

[Unkotare]

...He thinks 'the wrong side won' in WW II.

.....

I have, of course, never said that, you lying sack of crap. Shall I make up some nonsense and insist that you said it? Are you taking classes on being a dishonest, idiot douche bag from Sealybobo?

 

[Unkotare]

The USA don't recognize Republic of China (Taiwan), you know. Officially there is a People's Republic of China, only.

We have, sadly, gone along with that disingenuous nonsense for many decades now, but the whole world knows the reality of the situation. Is this your attempt at playing apologist for the CCP?

 

[Silver Cat]

We have, sadly, gone along with that disingenuous nonsense for many decades now, but the whole world knows the reality of the situation. Is this your attempt at playing apologist for the CCP?

No. I just want to describe an official picture. China used few nukes on the Chinese land, against ethnic Chineses, resuming the Chinese Civil War.
Should the USA intervene and nuke more Chineses (with the risk to be nuked, too), or allow them to finish the war with the minimal number of casualties?

 

[Unkotare]

...on the Chinese land, ...

False premise.

 

[Silver Cat]

False premise.

Both People's Republic of China and [unrecognized] Republic of China (Taiwan) are China.

 

[Unkotare]

Both People's Republic of China and [unrecognized] Republic of China (Taiwan) are China.

Does Xi pay you by personal check, or do you Venmo?

 

[Silver Cat]

Does Xi pay you by personal check, or do you Venmo?

Do you want to say, that Republic of China is not China?
Anyway, it is not the USA.
Should the USA nuke People's Republic of China because they nuked Republic of China?

 

[Mushroom]

Ok. So, what would you do, if PLA use a tactical nuclear weapon against Taiwan separatists (not only to prevail on the battlefield, but also to demonstrate their determination to use it against American forces too, if necessary) ?

Simple, they would not do that. Because if they did they would at a minimum become a pariah nation around the world.

Last time in 1989, the reaction to the last time they tried to act in a heavy handed manner crippled their economy for a decade. And if you think the world would just roll over if they did that, you are seriously delusional. In fact, I think I have a good idea what the reaction of the world would be.

Almost all nations starting an embargo against China and Chinese trade and goods. Not only the US but the UK, most of NATO, and likely a sizable UN force responding by assisting Taiwan.

And at worst, a complete restructure of the UN. With all of the other permanent members drafting a resolution, stripping the PRC and returning the permanent seat in the body to the ROC.

Why you seem to believe that lobbing a nuke would solve their problems, or that the only response would be lobbing one in return I have no idea. But it would not be a "deterrence" to the US. In fact, quite the opposite and it would be screaming to the entire world that they are unstable, and must be reigned in. First, as was done in 1989 economically. And I expect most companies that have "set up shop" there would immediately withdraw permanently. Nobody wants to do business with an unstable country that does not operate in a predictable manner.

Of course, I also do not think that would happen because I do not think the PRC is that stupid. They remember 1989 and the fallout from that, and that it took a decade to even return to their prior standing. If they were so stupid to lob a nuke, they are well aware that they would never regain it. No nation would trust or want to work with them ever again, and they might as well return to the state they were in the 1960's.