Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

[Esdraelon]

Taiwan was occupied by the defeated Chinese when the Nationalist fled mainland China

The Taiwanese are the Chinese per se (the Han Chinese). It is the same nation.

Ethnically perhaps but beyond that they couldn't be more different. It's a comparison of free people and slaves.

 

[Esdraelon]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

China has publicly threatened America and their citizens. They have spied, poisoned nations and were silent about a virus they unleashed to the world. They have walked into Hong Kong and arrested citizens and pushed domestic laws that go hard against foreigners because they could all be "spies".

You think after all of this, that China is at all afraid of economic consequences? They own the worlds elite and they will continue to use them to take over the world. They sacrificed their own citizens to be used as slave labour, and made many people billionaires. These billionaires don't give a damn about the crocodile until it's too late. They fool Western nations to move there, then steal their IP.

Oh and I almost forgot, did you order your China Olympics sweatshirt yet (made in a sweatshop I'm sure)?
"First they came for the communists..."

Yup

The days of Chinese isolationism are over. They are now controlled by the capitalists

Bullshit. They use capitalism as a means to an end. The CCP rules supreme. If you don't believe it, ask Jack Ma's opinion.

 

[DudleySmith]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

China has publicly threatened America and their citizens. They have spied, poisoned nations and were silent about a virus they unleashed to the world. They have walked into Hong Kong and arrested citizens and pushed domestic laws that go hard against foreigners because they could all be "spies".

You think after all of this, that China is at all afraid of economic consequences? They own the worlds elite and they will continue to use them to take over the world. They sacrificed their own citizens to be used as slave labour, and made many people billionaires. These billionaires don't give a damn about the crocodile until it's too late. They fool Western nations to move there, then steal their IP.

Oh and I almost forgot, did you order your China Olympics sweatshirt yet (made in a sweatshop I'm sure)?
"First they came for the communists..."

Yup

The days of Chinese isolationism are over. They are now controlled by the capitalists

Bullshit. They use capitalism as a means to an end. The CCP rules supreme. If you don't believe it, ask Jack Ma's opinion.

They don't practice 'free trade', and the Cadre are the only 'middle class, with maybe about a 10% few with necessary tech skills, no different than under Mao.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I predicted a massive shift in global influence if Trump lost in 2020. My thinking was that Europe and Asian nations will watch to see if America remains focused on expanding their influence and projecting capitalism, or, if it will become just another socialist nation looking to control their domestic citizens. One of many nations that is incapable of stopping China from doing as it pleases. While U.S corporations and their political pals pretend their greed didn't destroy the U.S

After Hong Kong was taken back so easily, while the Brits were so focused on Russia (and appeasement of them, though they'd never admit this when their intel thought sending missiles to Ukraine was a bad idea) and pushing this narrative in the U.S (much to the pleasure of China), the CCP were expanding and eying how to topple the U.S and Western democracy.

How lucky could they be to see the U.S embroiled in terror in the M.E, then Russia in Crimea, and then an aggressive global effort to usurp the most pro-American president in many peoples lifetime, all while China expanded and laughed?

If Taiwan falls to China, America will go from Super Power to Middle Power almost overnight. Just as Canada went from Middle Power to Little Power in a generation (again, thanks to appeasing of China). The world will be drastically tilted to China and Russia and the new global supremacy. Their influence and outreach will be without limits at that point.

Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

"This problem is much closer to us than most think," the new head of US Indo-Pacific Command said in March.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Benjamin Brimelow
Mon., May 3, 2021, 8:54 a.m.·8 min read

A concrete bunker and anti-landing barricades on a beach facing the Chinese city of Xamen, on the Taiwanese island of Little Kinmen, April 20, 2018. Carl Court/Getty Images

• China has been expanding its influence and taking a more aggressive posture toward Taiwan.
• That has raised concerns that Beijing will attempt to retake the island by force.
• Whether the US and other countries would help, and what help they would offer, remains in doubt.
• See more stories on Insider's business page.

Twenty-five years ago, two US Navy carrier strike groups were enough to deter possible Chinese military action against Taiwan after China launched missiles that landed a few dozen miles off its coast.
Now, after a massive modernization effort by China's military, known as the People's Liberation Army, or PLA, two carrier strike groups, and possibly US forces alone, may not be enough.
This is especially daunting for Taiwan, as it is unclear if it can get help from anyone else if, or when, the time comes.
In March, Adm. Philip Davidson, then head of US Indo-Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that China could invade Taiwan in the next six years.
A few days later, Adm. John Aquilino, Davidson's successor, declined to comment on that assessment but said that China views Taiwan "as their No. 1 priority" and that, in his opinion, "this problem is much closer to us than most think."

No one is coming to save them
Once they take Taiwan the Pacific theater is wide open

we'll be to busy anyway
No one is coming to save you my frozen brother
And no one is coming to save us

 

[DudleySmith]

I predicted a massive shift in global influence if Trump lost in 2020. My thinking was that Europe and Asian nations will watch to see if America remains focused on expanding their influence and projecting capitalism, or, if it will become just another socialist nation looking to control their domestic citizens. One of many nations that is incapable of stopping China from doing as it pleases. While U.S corporations and their political pals pretend their greed didn't destroy the U.S

After Hong Kong was taken back so easily, while the Brits were so focused on Russia (and appeasement of them, though they'd never admit this when their intel thought sending missiles to Ukraine was a bad idea) and pushing this narrative in the U.S (much to the pleasure of China), the CCP were expanding and eying how to topple the U.S and Western democracy.

How lucky could they be to see the U.S embroiled in terror in the M.E, then Russia in Crimea, and then an aggressive global effort to usurp the most pro-American president in many peoples lifetime, all while China expanded and laughed?

If Taiwan falls to China, America will go from Super Power to Middle Power almost overnight. Just as Canada went from Middle Power to Little Power in a generation (again, thanks to appeasing of China). The world will be drastically tilted to China and Russia and the new global supremacy. Their influence and outreach will be without limits at that point.

Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

"This problem is much closer to us than most think," the new head of US Indo-Pacific Command said in March.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Benjamin Brimelow
Mon., May 3, 2021, 8:54 a.m.·8 min read

A concrete bunker and anti-landing barricades on a beach facing the Chinese city of Xamen, on the Taiwanese island of Little Kinmen, April 20, 2018. Carl Court/Getty Images

• China has been expanding its influence and taking a more aggressive posture toward Taiwan.
• That has raised concerns that Beijing will attempt to retake the island by force.
• Whether the US and other countries would help, and what help they would offer, remains in doubt.
• See more stories on Insider's business page.

Twenty-five years ago, two US Navy carrier strike groups were enough to deter possible Chinese military action against Taiwan after China launched missiles that landed a few dozen miles off its coast.
Now, after a massive modernization effort by China's military, known as the People's Liberation Army, or PLA, two carrier strike groups, and possibly US forces alone, may not be enough.
This is especially daunting for Taiwan, as it is unclear if it can get help from anyone else if, or when, the time comes.
In March, Adm. Philip Davidson, then head of US Indo-Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that China could invade Taiwan in the next six years.
A few days later, Adm. John Aquilino, Davidson's successor, declined to comment on that assessment but said that China views Taiwan "as their No. 1 priority" and that, in his opinion, "this problem is much closer to us than most think."

No one is coming to save them
Once they take Taiwan the Pacific theater is wide open

we'll be to busy anyway
No one is coming to save you my frozen brother
And no one is coming to save us

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Quoted for truth. It's amazing how that fact fails to sink in.

 

[rightwinger]

It probably won't happen with Chinese forces landing on the shore and taking over the capital by force. It will happen after agreements between Biden and China come to pass and one day Taiwanese will wake up to a new regime. The American media will ignore it or justify it because it happened under a democrat administration and nobody will hear the cries of free people who have lost it all.

The US has supported Taiwan for 70 years

It was Trump who continually sold out our alliances

 

[rightwinger]

China will not attack Taiwan
Hong Kong was returned to them by the British

Taiwan would kick their asses if they invaded

Lot of ships at the bottom of the ocean

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Does the OP know that Taiwan is occupied by the Chinese?

Please define "occupied".

You want to know a major reason why Taiwan didn't receive he Wuhan Virus in such destructive numbes as the rest of the world? Not too long before the outbreak, China had prevented its own citizens in the Mainland from visiting Taiwan, in an effort to hurt their tourism for some policy Taiwan had enacted. It's not the first time the CCP have done this to punish another country. It was a blessing in disguise.

So, explain occupied for me. They are two systems, and Taiwan is a step way from declaring Independence. As their PM stated before, "we are already independent, whether we declare it or not".

Now, with China walking into HK and forcing extreme security laws while the West did NOTHING, the message to the pro-Western citizens is "just submit to us. You saw how easily we did what we wanted. Where were your loyal Western allies when you needed them"?

Allowing Taiwan to be forced into CCP hands, along with their chip technology, would even more rapidly accelerate Chinas takeover of the planet, and the U.S and Western demise.

The most incompetent leadership and patsy corporations who just echoed what the were told for 30 years, has lead to this moment.

Many Asians also were wearing masks in public long before this epidemic hit the U.S.; they have all kinds of flus and other respiratory disease running rampant in Asia.

That has little to do with why they wear masks.

Not Just Coronavirus: Asians Have Worn Face Masks for Decades

People from Japan into Southeast Asia cover their mouths to deflect exhaust, pollution and cold air, Some are hiding their faces

www.voanews.com

 

[Quasar44]

Xiden is the top Chinese hand puppet

 

[rightwinger]

Xiden is the top Chinese hand puppet

What exactly has he done to help China?

 

[Quasar44]

Taiwan is a huge endangered animal killer
I really don’t care if China retakes what is there’s

 

[Mushroom]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

 

[Likkmee]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

iPhone 22. Proudly union made in Redmond WA, USA !
Only $8,500. Zero % financing available !

 

[Mushroom]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

iPhone 22. Proudly union made in Redmond WA, USA !
Only $8,500. Zero % financing available !

And I do not really care. Never bought an Apple product, will never buy an Apple product.

Overpriced and overhyped garbage, sold to the sheep that think it is the best thing ever.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

I think you need to do a little research on Foxconn. I don't think your information is anywhere near correct. Yes, they have factories in mainland China, but the rest of your information is grossly incorrect.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I predicted a massive shift in global influence if Trump lost in 2020. My thinking was that Europe and Asian nations will watch to see if America remains focused on expanding their influence and projecting capitalism, or, if it will become just another socialist nation looking to control their domestic citizens. One of many nations that is incapable of stopping China from doing as it pleases. While U.S corporations and their political pals pretend their greed didn't destroy the U.S

After Hong Kong was taken back so easily, while the Brits were so focused on Russia (and appeasement of them, though they'd never admit this when their intel thought sending missiles to Ukraine was a bad idea) and pushing this narrative in the U.S (much to the pleasure of China), the CCP were expanding and eying how to topple the U.S and Western democracy.

How lucky could they be to see the U.S embroiled in terror in the M.E, then Russia in Crimea, and then an aggressive global effort to usurp the most pro-American president in many peoples lifetime, all while China expanded and laughed?

If Taiwan falls to China, America will go from Super Power to Middle Power almost overnight. Just as Canada went from Middle Power to Little Power in a generation (again, thanks to appeasing of China). The world will be drastically tilted to China and Russia and the new global supremacy. Their influence and outreach will be without limits at that point.

Fears of a Chinese attack on Taiwan are growing, and Taiwan isn't sure who would help if it happened

"This problem is much closer to us than most think," the new head of US Indo-Pacific Command said in March.

ca.news.yahoo.com

Benjamin Brimelow
Mon., May 3, 2021, 8:54 a.m.·8 min read

A concrete bunker and anti-landing barricades on a beach facing the Chinese city of Xamen, on the Taiwanese island of Little Kinmen, April 20, 2018. Carl Court/Getty Images

• China has been expanding its influence and taking a more aggressive posture toward Taiwan.
• That has raised concerns that Beijing will attempt to retake the island by force.
• Whether the US and other countries would help, and what help they would offer, remains in doubt.
• See more stories on Insider's business page.

Twenty-five years ago, two US Navy carrier strike groups were enough to deter possible Chinese military action against Taiwan after China launched missiles that landed a few dozen miles off its coast.
Now, after a massive modernization effort by China's military, known as the People's Liberation Army, or PLA, two carrier strike groups, and possibly US forces alone, may not be enough.
This is especially daunting for Taiwan, as it is unclear if it can get help from anyone else if, or when, the time comes.
In March, Adm. Philip Davidson, then head of US Indo-Pacific Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that China could invade Taiwan in the next six years.
A few days later, Adm. John Aquilino, Davidson's successor, declined to comment on that assessment but said that China views Taiwan "as their No. 1 priority" and that, in his opinion, "this problem is much closer to us than most think."

Hong Kong was taken back?

Er... that was 1997.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It probably won't happen with Chinese forces landing on the shore and taking over the capital by force. It will happen after agreements between Biden and China come to pass and one day Taiwanese will wake up to a new regime. The American media will ignore it or justify it because it happened under a democrat administration and nobody will hear the cries of free people who have lost it all.

The question is why would the US want to see Taiwan go to China. Taiwan is incredibly convenient for the US, and more so the stronger China gets.

Oh, and the US sent US Senators to Taiwan personally to deliver covid vaccines. Biden is taking a much harder line on Taiwan than Trump.

The difference is Biden doesn't shout about it like a petulant child all the time. So, if they think he's doing nothing, it's because they don't understand anything that isn't being shouted.

 

[Mushroom]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

I think you need to do a little research on Foxconn. I don't think your information is anywhere near correct. Yes, they have factories in mainland China, but the rest of your information is grossly incorrect.

Incorrect about what, exactly?

That they are not a major electronics company, based out of Taiwan? That they have extensive manufacturing plants in China? That if China invaded, they would not promptly pull out of all of their factories?

Be specific, don't just say I am wrong, and not say how.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

I think you need to do a little research on Foxconn. I don't think your information is anywhere near correct. Yes, they have factories in mainland China, but the rest of your information is grossly incorrect.

Incorrect about what, exactly?

That they are not a major electronics company, based out of Taiwan? That they have extensive manufacturing plants in China? That if China invaded, they would not promptly pull out of all of their factories?

Be specific, don't just say I am wrong, and not say how.

You mentioned Apple, Intel, and Google and having factories in China, set up by Foxconn. That is untrue. Foxconn produces the chips used in other companies' products. Foxconn has factories worldwide and not just in China.

 

[Likkmee]

China has too much to lose by invading Taiwan.

Firstly, the Mega Billion Corporations would face a global boycott. China wants to become a global leader. An unprovoked attack on Taiwan will not allow that.

Secondly, Taiwan is prepared for an invasion. China would suffer tremendous losses

If they were to invade Taiwan, the political fallout would cripple their economy.

Even without actual sanctions, most foreign companies would withdraw their business dealings with the country. Not to mention that a lot of those dealings go through Taiwan as the middleman.

For example, one of the biggest is Foxconn. Apple, Intel, Google, almost everybody works through Foxconn when setting up agreements and factories in China. And Foxconn is a Taiwanese company. So even if say Apple decided to continue to do business with China, how? 90% of their stuff there is made in Foxconn factories. And Foxconn are going to shut down immediately all dealings with the CCCP.

Most people seem to not realize that if the International Tech Companies all pull out, China is left with a huge workforce, and no customers. The world is not exactly beating down the door to buy Chinese electronics, cars, aircraft, or much of anything else they made. They only manufacture it on contract for others.

I think you need to do a little research on Foxconn. I don't think your information is anywhere near correct. Yes, they have factories in mainland China, but the rest of your information is grossly incorrect.

Incorrect about what, exactly?

That they are not a major electronics company, based out of Taiwan? That they have extensive manufacturing plants in China? That if China invaded, they would not promptly pull out of all of their factories?

Be specific, don't just say I am wrong, and not say how.

You mentioned Apple, Intel, and Google and having factories in China, set up by Foxconn. That is untrue. Foxconn produces the chips used in other companies' products. Foxconn has factories worldwide and not just in China.

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