FB posts on Seizing/Redistributing funds: Is extreme Wealth a punishable moral offense

[Care4all]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

 

[Moonglow]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesu Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

^ Moonglow
When is it Constitutional to take Christian teaching and moral beliefs and establish this belief through GOVT to impose and require the whole nation to follow and taxpayers to fund it?

If it is okay to establish Christian and God's laws through Govt, does this mean all the other responsibilities come with it?

Refraining from sex outside of spiritually committed relations?

Not coveting the spouses, property, servants or wealth of others?

Do you see the conflict this introduces?

It must be because the basis for several laws is all due to the morality of the Bible.

It is not coveting when one is not paid a living wage by a wealthy man.

All awages are living wages. It is simply a matter of living within ones means.

Is that why rich people go bankrupt?

 

[Moonglow]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

I just find it amazing that anyone who mentions that is a Marxist..I was unaware God was Marx...

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I am going to add posts on here I have been seeing from friends, insisting that exceptional wealth is justification for govt to redistribute this to save lives from poverty or lack of health care. As if there is no better solution?

I have posted the usual responses:
1. When is making or saving more money than other people a punishable offense?
2. Shouldn't the taxpayers affected by tax laws be able to consent?
Where is the DUE PROCESS to PROVE which people collected wealth by abusive means or incurred costs, damages or debts to others for which they owe payment?
3. Why isn't the focus on finding better, sustainable ways to provide health care or other lifesaving assistance WITHOUT abusing govt to seize wealth of people without their permission?
Where is the motivation to stop govt waste or to collect back money owed from corporate corruption by people PROVEN to have abused taxpayer resources? Why punish wealthy people "as a class" for political convenience instead of targeting the ACTUAL wrongdoers that can be PROVEN to have committed wrongs, received profits they didn't earn as payouts that other taxpayers paid, and incurred debts?

Isn't it wrongful to COVET the wealth of others, by ASSUMING such people must be "greedy" and have done something abusive that justifies demanding their money based solely on the amount they have saved or earned. Isn't that judging and discriminating by class?

Etc. Etc.

Is anyone else seeing posts like that from friends who are pushing to use the Liberal bias in Govt and Congress to demand policies like this, raising taxes based on wealth instead of going after the actual problems or parties responsible for abuse, waste or reimbursement of taxpayer funds?

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Except they are talking about taxation of wealth. Not seizing it. THAT would be the fundamental definition of redistribution. No one's talking about that. The wealthy and corporations have been the beneficiaries of multiple tax cuts over the last four decades. Time to pay just a little more for them. They'll still have plenty of billions left.

 

[occupied]

The tax the rich people sound more jealous than compassionate to me. They seem mad at the rich

We ought to be mad. Been handing them massive tax cuts for decades and we are still waiting for their almost astounding gains in wealth to trickle down.

No one is waiting it has rained on us for years.

Clearly not the case. If the economy worked like conservatives say it does there would be corresponding gains in wealth from the bottom to the top but for everyone who works for a living wage growth has been flat at best.

Clearly is the case growth has happened for all

No it has not. Certainly not at the rate that wealth has accumulated for the wealthy. Outsourcing/automation/foreign investment has increasingly made American labor unnecessary to being filty rich in America.

 

[AMart]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

Are you suggesting that government is Jesus? We are talking about income taxes imposed by government.

 

[progressive hunter]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

got a link??

 

[Moonglow]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

got a link??

The Bible, ever read it?

 

[Moonglow]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

Are you suggesting that government is Jesus? We are talking about income taxes imposed by government.

No, that society should be ready for a reduction in the obvious overcompensation of some people. Years ago they called it monopoly busting.

 

[progressive hunter]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

got a link??

The Bible, ever read it?

nope,, only revelations,,

so do you have a link or not??

 

[Care4all]

People who think taxing the wealthiest in the world, who achieved that extraordinary amount of wealth through 'The System' being fixed in their favor, while leaving the Laborer behind and not compensated for their labor which made the wealthiest richer.... is stealing from the rich, have it ass backwards....

The wealthiest have been stealing the worker's earned wages, for decades now....rising higher and higher in riches while the middle class worker and families are left behind.

The disparity between the rich and poor has been growing rapidly the past few decades...

CEO pay has ten folded over and above the worker's pay, in their salary increases...Amazon pays ZERO in taxes, while the school teacher pays more in taxes than someone like Trump who paid $750 bucks, the wealthiest taxes are deferred or at 15% capital gains, but the Manager who runs their business pays 25% or 30% of their earnings in taxes, CEOs are forfeiting Salary for Stock options so they get hit with only 15% instead of 30%, and tax write offs that help them specifically, and not the every day Joe.... the wealthiest is who bribe our government officials to get them, whatever they want, while the every day Joe can only protest in the streets and hope to be heard...

The wealthiest made their wealth OFF OF THE WORKER's labor, yet the laborer was left out of the sharing in the increased profit?

All of these things and many more that I've heard, are valid complaints in my opinion.

It isn't coveting someone else's money, it's being compensated for the work they were never paid for when they created it, with their leatherred hands and sharpened pencils.

 

[progressive hunter]

People who think taxing the wealthiest in the world, who achieved that extraordinary amount of wealth through 'The System' being fixed in their favor, while leaving the Laborer behind and not compensated for their labor which made the wealthiest richer.... is stealing from the rich, have it ass backwards....

The wealthiest have been stealing the worker's earned wages, for decades now....rising higher and higher in riches while the middle class worker and families are left behind.

The disparity between the rich and poor has been growing rapidly the past few decades...

CEO pay has ten folded over and above the worker's pay, in their salary increases...Amazon pays ZERO in taxes, while the school teacher pays more in taxes than someone like Trump who paid $750 bucks, the wealthiest taxes are deferred or at 15% capital gains, but the Manager who runs their business pays 25% or 30% of their earnings in taxes, CEOs are forgetting Salary for Stock options so they get hit with only 15% instead of 30%, and tax write offs that help them specifically, and not the every day Joe.... the wealthiest is who bribe our government officials to get them, whatever they want, while the every day Joe can only protest in the streets and hope to be heard...

The wealthiest made their wealth OFF OF THE WORKER's labor, yet the laborer was left out of the sharing in the increased profit?

All of these things and many more that I've heard, are valid complaints in my opinion.

It isn't coveting someone else's money, it's being compensated for the work they were never paid for when they created it, with their leatherred hands and sharpened pencils.

spoken like a true tyrant,, and a lazy useless idiot,,

 

[Soupnazi630]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

Yes he never told anyone to use government as a weapon and tax otherd out of their wealth.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The tax the rich people sound more jealous than compassionate to me. They seem mad at the rich

We ought to be mad. Been handing them massive tax cuts for decades and we are still waiting for their almost astounding gains in wealth to trickle down.

No one is waiting it has rained on us for years.

Clearly not the case. If the economy worked like conservatives say it does there would be corresponding gains in wealth from the bottom to the top but for everyone who works for a living wage growth has been flat at best.

Clearly is the case growth has happened for all

No it has not. Certainly not at the rate that wealth has accumulated for the wealthy. Outsourcing/automation/foreign investment has increasingly made American labor unnecessary to being filty rich in America.

Yes it has

 

[OldFlame]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Did the Op mention anything about God, totally off topic and zero to do with the discussion at hand. Take your whacko Christian beliefs to the Religious forum where they belong.

 

[Soupnazi630]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

got a link??

The Bible, ever read it?

The bible refutes that idiotic statement

 

[Soupnazi630]

I am going to add posts on here I have been seeing from friends, insisting that exceptional wealth is justification for govt to redistribute this to save lives from poverty or lack of health care. As if there is no better solution?

I have posted the usual responses:
1. When is making or saving more money than other people a punishable offense?
2. Shouldn't the taxpayers affected by tax laws be able to consent?
Where is the DUE PROCESS to PROVE which people collected wealth by abusive means or incurred costs, damages or debts to others for which they owe payment?
3. Why isn't the focus on finding better, sustainable ways to provide health care or other lifesaving assistance WITHOUT abusing govt to seize wealth of people without their permission?
Where is the motivation to stop govt waste or to collect back money owed from corporate corruption by people PROVEN to have abused taxpayer resources? Why punish wealthy people "as a class" for political convenience instead of targeting the ACTUAL wrongdoers that can be PROVEN to have committed wrongs, received profits they didn't earn as payouts that other taxpayers paid, and incurred debts?

Isn't it wrongful to COVET the wealth of others, by ASSUMING such people must be "greedy" and have done something abusive that justifies demanding their money based solely on the amount they have saved or earned. Isn't that judging and discriminating by class?

Etc. Etc.

Is anyone else seeing posts like that from friends who are pushing to use the Liberal bias in Govt and Congress to demand policies like this, raising taxes based on wealth instead of going after the actual problems or parties responsible for abuse, waste or reimbursement of taxpayer funds?

View attachment 469150

Except they are talking about taxation of wealth. Not seizing it. THAT would be the fundamental definition of redistribution. No one's talking about that. The wealthy and corporations have been the beneficiaries of multiple tax cuts over the last four decades. Time to pay just a little more for them. They'll still have plenty of billions left.

Taxation is seizure of others property

 

[emilynghiem]

What does God say about the issue of wealth building and power building through wealth? How can a nation claim to follow a God of Abraham and the Son of God Jesus Christ when both spoke on the subject and said it was not good to keep all that wealth that belongs to God in the first place, you should share the blessings of the planet that belongs to God. Wait, God is the original Marxist...stick that in yer soup and eat it.

Jesus told the rich man who asked, to give away all his riches, and follow Him.

Care4all
And all that is voluntary by free will.
Even God does not force people to do this without free choice, or it isn't real faith and real charity.

How come liberals who normally preach separation of church from state, religion from govt, suddenly support FEDERAL govt mandating and forcing Christian principles nationally on the public as legally required? Really?

 

[occupied]

The tax the rich people sound more jealous than compassionate to me. They seem mad at the rich

We ought to be mad. Been handing them massive tax cuts for decades and we are still waiting for their almost astounding gains in wealth to trickle down.

No one is waiting it has rained on us for years.

Clearly not the case. If the economy worked like conservatives say it does there would be corresponding gains in wealth from the bottom to the top but for everyone who works for a living wage growth has been flat at best.

Clearly is the case growth has happened for all

No it has not. Certainly not at the rate that wealth has accumulated for the wealthy. Outsourcing/automation/foreign investment has increasingly made American labor unnecessary to being filty rich in America.

Yes it has

Awesome rebuttal, are you twelve?

 

[OldFlame]

Not all wealth accumulation is created equal. Most of it is outright theft with little net benefit to society.

Look at all the millionaires in our government, let's start there.