Facing dire recruiting realities, Navy raises max enlistment age to 41

[Mushroom]

I'm guessing with all the high tech equipment out there, they Navy is finding it very difficult to recruit those folks who have the technical ability to man complex radar and weapons systems.

Not at all, because they train people to do those jobs.

In fact, it does not matter what your experience is before joining. I had over 2 decades in computers before that became my job in the Army. I still had to go to the same school intended for people who had barely used one.

 

[Polishprince]

I am sure that is your dream!

You think transsexuals are a large population in the military? Catch a clue!

Traditionally, no. She-Males and cross dressers aren't a big part of the US military.

However, since the Biden Regime took office last year, they have really opened the door to gender-benders. The Clinton era policy of "dont ask dont tell" is long over, and the top brass encourages the men to openly express their sexual preferences.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Traditionally, no. She-Males and cross dressers aren't a big part of the US military.

However, since the Biden Regime took office last year, they have really opened the door to gender-benders. The Clinton era policy of "dont ask dont tell" is long over, and the top brass encourages the men to openly express their sexual preferences.

What about the women?

Are you familiar with the hoops transgenders must go through in order to join? They cannot just walk in off the street, say they want to enlist, and ship off to recruit training? Here is an article describing the Army's policy.

"Transgender personnel and individuals with gender dysphoria must meet all applicable medical accession standards to gain entry into the Army, the policy reads.

Before the updated Army guidelines, individuals with gender dysphoria were presumptively disqualified unless stable for 36 months and willing and able to serve in their biological sex, Stitt said. Under the new guidance, this duration to meet standards is now 18 months of stability and the person can serve in their self-identified gender.

"This gives the Army a bigger applicant pool to consider," Stitt said.

Applicants must present documents to validate their self-identified gender, such as a birth certificate, U.S. passport, or a certified copy of a court order reflecting one's self identified gender, the policy states.

If an individual cannot meet a medical criterion, they can request a waiver for evaluation under DOD and Army policies. The standard for approval will be determined individually and must be in the Army's best interests after a thorough review of the individual's potential."

Change to policy allows transgender Soldiers to serve openly

Transgender personnel and individuals with gender dysphoria who can meet the Army's standards for military service can now serve openly.

www.army.mil

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

When did you serve in the Navy?

I am not a thailor

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am not a thailor

So you comments are based on your own prejudices and nothing more? Fuck you very much, asshole!

 

[Seymour Flops]

When I was in boot camp, we had a guy who was thirty-one and the drill sergeants nicknamed him "Pappy."

On the other hand, there were some near fifty Sergeant Majors and Senior officers who would set the pace for the young dudes on runs and laugh at the kids being out of breath.

But the military is (or was) a life in which exercising and running were part of the job, not something you had to find time for. In combat arms, if they aren't doing PT, they are out in the field humping it. So injuries were more likely to lay them low than getting out of shape.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

When I was in boot camp, we had a guy who was thirty-one and the drill sergeants nicknamed him "Pappy."

On the other hand, there were some near fifty Sergeant Majors and Senior officers who would set the pace for the young dudes on runs and laugh at the kids being out of breath.

But the military is (or was) a life in which exercising and running were part of the job, not something you had to find time for. In combat arms, if they aren't doing PT, they are out in the field humping it. So injuries were more likely to lay them low than getting out of shape.

The OP is about the Navy. We didn't do a lot of PT at sea or in the field "humping it".

 

[Seymour Flops]

What makes you think people in the military take showers together after recruit training? I never did and I was in from the 70s to the 90s.

We had communal showers in my AIT at Fort Jackson, and in my duty station in Frankfurt. Also in Advanced Camp in ROTC. I never took a private shower in the Army until my BOQ at QM OBC.

I noticed when I toured the aircraft carrier in Corpus Christi, that it had shower stalls. That was a WWII ship, so I'm sure its the same today. I have heard, but cannot verify, that in the Navy there is no stigma on "sea pussy," on a long surface voyage or any submersion. Private showers would facilitate that, there being little privacy in the bunks (racks?).

If I heard wrong, I'll take your word for it, Admiral. Maybe that was before biological females were allowed on ships at sea.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The OP is about the Navy. We didn't do a lot of PT at sea or in the field "humping it".

Yes, I believe the Navy and the Air Force would be fine for older recruits.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What about the women?

Are you familiar with the hoops transgenders must go through in order to join? They cannot just walk in off the street, say they want to enlist, and ship off to recruit training? Here is an article describing the Army's policy.

"Transgender personnel and individuals with gender dysphoria must meet all applicable medical accession standards to gain entry into the Army, the policy reads.

Before the updated Army guidelines, individuals with gender dysphoria were presumptively disqualified unless stable for 36 months and willing and able to serve in their biological sex, Stitt said. Under the new guidance, this duration to meet standards is now 18 months of stability and the person can serve in their self-identified gender.

It's absurd that transgenders are allowed in the military.

But the guidance above makes sense if we do let them in. So that guidance will be ended as more and more woke officers are appointed.

Under woke gender theory, a person need only say that they are transgender to have full and equal access to all that is accessible to biological member of the gender they claim.

I'm curious as to what the mean by "stability" and "willing and able to serve in their biological sex?"

"This gives the Army a bigger applicant pool to consider," Stitt said.

Applicants must present documents to validate their self-identified gender, such as a birth certificate, U.S. passport, or a certified copy of a court order reflecting one's self identified gender, the policy states.

If an individual cannot meet a medical criterion, they can request a waiver for evaluation under DOD and Army policies. The standard for approval will be determined individually and must be in the Army's best interests after a thorough review of the individual's potential."

Change to policy allows transgender Soldiers to serve openly

Transgender personnel and individuals with gender dysphoria who can meet the Army's standards for military service can now serve openly.

www.army.mil

How does a man get a passport or court order reflecting his chosen gender as a woman? I guess a court order would only require a woke judge or magistrate, but it used to be you had to have had the surgery to get your birth certificate changed. Do you now just call the hospital in which you were born and say, "your doctor guessed wrong about my gender?"

If your passport says "female," you have to be ready to able and willing to serve as a male, for them to let you in as a female? That makes little sense.

 

[Mushroom]

The OP is about the Navy. We didn't do a lot of PT at sea or in the field "humping it".

Unless they are a Greenside Corpsman or Chaplain.

 

[Mushroom]

When I was in boot camp, we had a guy who was thirty-one and the drill sergeants nicknamed him "Pappy."

I was 42 when I joined the Army, and often laughed that my kids were older than many I served with.

And yes, as we get older we are more prone to injuries. But also, we also often have more determination, learned from more life experiences. I was not as fast as those decades younger then me, but I did have more endurance which often more than made up the difference. I actually laughed at most of them as they would give me a hard time for being slower in a 2 mile run. But they could not even come close to me on a 3 to 5 mile forced march.

But I was normally called "Gramps", as another guy in my unit had joined at 34 and he was "Pops".

 

[elektra]

That was 36 years ago! Got any insight into this century perhaps?

Admiral Rockwell Tory said:
What makes you think people in the military take showers together after recruit training? I never did and I was in from the 70s to the 90s.

36 years ago was the time period you were talking about, moron.

You dont know your ass from a hole in the ground

 

[elektra]

So you comments are based on your own prejudices and nothing more? Fuck you very much, asshole!

"So you"?

They teach you to talk like that in officer school? You are collefe educated?

You have no idea how men shower in tbe military, you think you must point out other peoples errors, whike you post like a moron.

So you? I doubt you serced at all, and you certsinly were never an admiral. Stolen valor at the least.

 

[Mac-7]

There isn't a recruitment problem. There is a problem with the idea that our military needs to be as large as it is.

Thats nonsense

18 year old kids dont think like you do

The military has adopted disgusting pro homosexual and anti white policies that are contrary to what many potential recruits believe

 

[pknopp]

Thats nonsense

18 year old kids dont think like you do

The military has adopted disgusting pro homosexual and anti white policies that are contrary to what many potrntial recruits believe

18 year olds are far, far, far more open and accepting of others than you are. That's your problem but my point stands.

 

[Polishprince]

18 year olds are far, far, far more open and accepting of others than you are. That's your problem but my point stands.

I don't think so. Do you really think that 18 year olds are open and accepting of getting F'ed in the A in a military or penitentiary shower room if they drop the soap?

I haven't asked any teens about this, but it isn't my impression of their attitude at all.

 

[pknopp]

I don't think so. Do you really think that 18 year olds are open and accepting of getting F'ed in the A in a military or penitentiary shower room if they drop the soap?

That you can't behave around others doesn't mean others can not do so.

I haven't asked any teens about this, but it isn't my impression of their attitude at all.

Maybe you should. I'll chuckle at the arrest report.

 

[Mac-7]

18 year olds are far, far, far more open and accepting of others than you are. That's your problem but my point stands.

If you mean 18-year olds studying sociology at a state college I suppose so

But even if they flunk out of school they will usually become a soda jerk at Starbucks instead of joining the military

 

[pknopp]

If you mean 18-year olds studying sociology at a state college I suppose so

But even if they flunk out of school they will usually become a soda jerk at Starbucks instead of joining the military

There have always been gay service members. Always.